Israel announces plan to create 2,500 settlements in Palestinian-controlled territory

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    Them are perfectly valid questions.
    Why won't Jews return the property that they thieved from Palestinian civilians?
    And even worse, when will Jews stop thieving from Palestinian civilians?
    How much does racism play a roll?
     
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    Support for Jews is bizarre, my family all comes from Ellis Island immigrants who moved to the Bronx, and Yonkers.
    Which the Bronx was once known as the Jewish borough, because it was half Jewish.

    Everyone in my family doesn't care for them, both politically, nor personality wise.

    This includes my Irish, and German side, which is a little different than my Polish, Hungarian, and Ukrainian side, which already didn't like Jews on arrival to America, saying they never assimilated, nor cared for their countries.

    While my family came from the Bronx, and Yonkers, I'm from Connecticut.
    It's a good thing that my family had the sense to get away from that madness down there.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're not answering my questions, why should I answer yours?

    But I will.

    Palestinian Arabs, in their vast majority, have ABANDONED their plots of land for various reasons - instigated by promises of quick return, in fear for their own life and YES! motivated by Israeli military. Now they want it back? Tough luck! Since when does the victor pay reparations? And Israel was made war on seven (*)(*)(*)(*)ing times!

    Now, for thieving Arab land, there's no such thing. In each and every (*)(*)(*)(*)ng case, it is either case of eminent domain whereas Israel PAYS Arabs fair market value for their pathetic lots, or Arabs break law, or forget to apply for permit, or something similar. In each and every case, Palestinians are being compensated, or told what they did wrong.

    There.

    Now, are you prepare to answer my questions, of will you give me the usual crap?
     
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    oh I answered yours.


    So being ethnic cleansed is "tough luck" and that is all the reason why the Jew gets to thieve around?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No problems, I'll answer my own question for you.

    Here's why Palestinian Arabs been trying to "return" to Israel for the last seventy years or so and live among the Jews in the Jewish country - it's the only sane place in the Middle East, where Arabs can safely raise their families and prosper, providing they're willing to work.

    This is why they're dying (pun intended) to get into Israel.

    There.
     
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    That's an interesting background. My own family were ' originally ' highland Scotsmen, with a liberal dosing of English, Dutch and French. Obviously, people from mixed backgrounds find the fascist notion of ' purity ' to be effin' hilarious- unless it becomes dangerous and threatening as in the case of Israel's Jews- who have tried to turn religious beliefs and associated ethnicity into a ' bloodline '.
    I can understand the argument that Israel should be protected as a state- because it was legally created by people who were attempting to address the wrongs of 20th century European fascism - but it was never intended to be an exclusively Jewish affair. Truman crossed out ' Jewish state ' on the recognition document and substituted ' State of Israel '. The vast majority of the inhabitants of Palestine were Arabs and 25% of Israeli citizens are Arabs today. So to support ' Jews ' instead of supporting the Israeli state is racist, to my mind, racist and obnoxious. And that's the state of the current Knesset.
    Our politicians must stop feeding this cauldron of fascism with our taxes. They are making a terrible mistake- as the hundreds of thousands of deaths in the Middle East testify, along with the millions upon millions of people displaced. It didn't have to be like that- but people started to think ' Jew ' instead of ' Israeli '. They created the culture wars because they wanted exclusivity . Now it seems that the solution is to isolate them.

    https://bdsmovement.net/

    For the time being we are working against the agendas of our western governments. The plans of those governments have to change- and one route is to identify the foreign influences upon them.

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    I wouldn't know why you would refuse to accept this explanation:
    They want their properties back, that the Jews thieved from them.
    Seems rather normal.

    Care to explain why the Jews keep going forth thieving the properties from Arabs, like they did in 1948?
     
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    Ha ha ha, I keep making my question simpler and simpler and still, you can't answer it. OK, how about this - why do Palestinian Arabs insist on moving to Israel and living in Israel among the Jews, rather than asking for monetary compensation? Seems to me, by asking Jews for money Palestinians can get a small windfall and buy themselves a nice estate in the territories, rather then suffer in hated Israel... whatcha think? :)
     
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    impossible, as this was written in 1968 and former ICJ Judge Lauterpacht died in 1960.
     
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    Good!

    Palestine can declare Peace anytime.
    Police their turf and cease looking the other way as mobs, gangs, terrorist or freedom fighters would tunnel, launch rockets or in some way plan to hurt Israelis.
    Thus gaining respectability, they might even achieve a nation state.
    If Palestinians are to live in Israel. Israelis must be allowed to live in Palestine.

    Moi :oldman:

    r > g



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    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
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    You can start with demanding that Palestinians have the same right of return that Jews who have never stepped foot in Israel have.

    That all Palestinians have full rights enjoyed by Israelis who are Jews.
     
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    Israelis Jews.

    There are millions of Jews around the globe who choose to not live in Israel even when Israel offers them free housing and welfare to move.

    I wonder why the rest of the world would be so hostile just because Israel has occupied land it stole in a war it started in 1967 and continues to occupy this land, and stealing what little that remains thousands upon thousands of illegal settlements at a time.

    A state that has killed hundreds of thousands of people they think are expendable because they are not of the Jewish faith? Most of who were unarmed, tens of thousands of who children?
     
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    Except it is STILL in occupied territory, and STILL beyond the Green Line, it is as you tear a stereo out of the car but you say it is okay because you already stole the car.
     
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    Because they live there.

    Why do Jews want to live in America, a Christian country, when they have instant citizenship waiting for them in Israel?
     
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    No, my friend. Most Palestinians who live in Israel are perfectly happy, and vows to move out, if area they live in falls under Palestinian control.

    Why do Jews who live in America, a Christian country, do not blow up busses, explode themselves in a shopping malls, or stab Americans in the backs?
     
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    israel is VERY clever.

    the boundaries of many settlements are MUCH larger than the actual footprint of the settlement buildings.

    often times the borders of the settlement expend thousands of feet away from any existing roads or structures.

    thst way they can build new housing and buildings thousands of feet away from existing structures, and claim its not "expanding" existing settlements.

    very clever, and very dishonest.
     
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    Thousands of feet, eh? That's hundreds of meters, or a fraction of a mile... talk about them expansionist Israelis... :roflol:
     
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    No I don't.
    Don't need no Turk coming in and claiming some residence was his family's before the Brits expelled them in WW1.
    What about all those property deed in Ashkenazi names in pre WW2 Germany, Poland, etc.
    That property has just been assimilated by gentiles furthering the Nazi goal.
    Where no family existed, that property should have gone to some Ashkenazi organization to hold and never sell.

    At some moment in time, one must call it quits and declare - these are the borders.

    Conundrum of History.
    Crimea, Ukraine have been part of Russia longer than the Republics of Texas & California have been part of :flagus: eh

    And what of the restoration of Acadia? see below
    Acadia became part of them longer than . . . part of Russia. (Moscow, Petrograd)


    Moi :oldman:

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    Right.

    Just like the colored folk in the South before 1964 before all the troublemakers showed up.

    Insisting that they should have rights and voting 'n stuff.
     
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    Gee, I wonder why it is the Palestinians would be so upset.

    You say any Jew anywhere in the world born yesterday has the "right of return" but not the people the Israelis forced out over the years.

    Israel: where everyone is equal, but many are a lot more equal.
     
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    Maybe because over here in the USA, it doesn't matter if you are a Jew or a Christian, and in most places, even a Muslim.

    You have the same rights as any other citizen.

    And over here . . . we do not occupy land that does not belong to us.
     
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    Israel is one of the most open societies in the world. Out of a population of 6.7 million, 1.1 million are Muslims, 130,000 are Christians, and 100,000 are Druze. All have equal voting rights -- Israel is one of a very few place where Arab women have the right to vote, and Arabs currently hold 14 seats in the Knesset.

    Following a five-year trial, in a landmark decision for women's rights, an Arab judge, Salim Joubran, sentenced the former president of Israel, Moshe Katsav, to seven years in prison for rape. In what Muslim country do Jews have such rights? How many seats do Jews hold in the Saudi government or Jordan? Can anyone recall a Jewish judge sentencing a prominent Arab in Egypt? More to the point, has anyone even heard of a Jewish judge in Egypt?

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