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  1. chris155au

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    Any evidence for this?
     
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    Of course I have evidence =

    IDF Snipers Told to Aim for Ankles; Left-Wing Groups Say ‘Not Good Enough’
    By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz July 26, 2019 , 11:56 am

    It was reported that the IDF revised the rules of engagement that instructed snipers to aim for the lower body when shooting at Gazans threatening the security fence. The snipers are now required to aim at the ankles but ‘humanitarian’ groups say that is not good enough.

    According to the JPost report, the UN’s Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), reported 29,187 Palestinians injured as of March, with 7,246 injured by live ammunition and 773 injured by rubber bullets.

    Another 12,442 Palestinians were injured by gas inhalation and 8,449 by other means. OCHA documentation also found that the large majority of those injured were adult men (21,433), followed by 5,333 male youths, 1,699 women and 445 girls. A January report by Médecins Sans Frontières (Doctors Without Borders) stated that nearly 90% of those injured by Israeli fire suffered injuries to their lower limbs.
    https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/...-ankles-left-wing-groups-say-not-good-enough/
     
  3. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    I was talking about Muslims living in Israel!
     
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    Israel isn't a Jew, so no.

    I am referring to the ongoing ethnic cleansing of Arab civilians by Israel. That is what the BDS is for, or rather,.. against.
     
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    one's hatred towards Israel can indeed be due to anti-Semitism.

    we have a few such folks in this forum
     
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    Far more likely it's the Israeli who can not stand any criticism. As example: the OP.
    The kicked out HRW as well. It is the most condemned nation on the planet.
    To just claim this is all due to that the entire world is conspiring against the Jews, is just a ridiculous position.
     
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    HRW has not been kicked out of Israel.

    meanwhile Russia has banned two US Congressmen from entering the country.
     
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    lol
     
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    It's the only Jewish state on the planet!

    Arab civilians living in Israel?
     
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    So what

    There would have been about as much Jews as Arabs in Israel, if it wasn't for the Jews who ethnically cleansed Arab civilians. And there is nothing anti-Semitic to rip on Israel and it's Jewish citizens who did that, and are content they thieved all that property from other civilians due to their race.
     
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    You clearly have your own VERY convenient definition of anti-Semitism! :roflol:

    What years are you talking about? I'm talking about Muslims living in Israel TODAY!

    Correct.
     
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    The joke is on you. That really is inventing a definition out of the blue that criticism on a country is being racist, since it doesn't fly for any other country for any other ethnicity.
    Israel hardly has a history to speak off.
    So there you go
     
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    Not, not racist. Who said anything about racism?

    Again, what years are you talking about where Arabs were ethnically cleansed?

    Yes, I agree that "there is nothing anti-Semitic to rip on Israel and it's Jewish citizens who did that [ethnic cleansing]" but do you not think that calling for the complete destruction of the Jewish state of Israel is going a bit further?
     
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    Anti-semitism is a form of racism.

    As good as any year can do.

    This is what it's said about "destroying" the Jewish state of Israel

    Israel's acceptance of a "right of return" would amount to national suicide. The world's only Jewish state would cease to exist.

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.or...e-a-legal-quot-right-of-return-quot-to-israel

    It of course would not destroy Israel. It's just a bunch of other people will live there too.
    People who have the right to live there.
     
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    Okay, what Israeli Arabs were ethnically cleansed this year?

    Yes, a right of return wouldn't destroy Israel, but are you saying that there are no people who CALL for the destruction of Israel?
     
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    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...rusalem-home-handing-it-to-settlers-1.7487864

    I sourced that this is viewed as the destruction of Israel. It, of course, is a racist viewpoint which is fake. That is my point.[/QUOTE]
     
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    Are you sure that was based on ethnic cleansing and not property rights? You may want to re-read what you've read.

    Again, are you saying that there are no people who call for the TOTAL DESTRUCTION of Israel?
     
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    My Israeli sources Palestinians are kicked out so property can be given to Israeli settlers,... who may not even be in Palestina according to international law. So case proven.

    You moved to goalpost. You previously asked... " but do you not think that calling for the complete destruction of the Jewish state of Israel is going a bit further?". And destroying the Jewish apartheid state by banning Palestinian civilians to go home because of their ethnic background, is not the same as destroying Israel. That is a zionistic lie.
     
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    Are you saying that the property belonged to the Palestinian family in the first place?

    Okay, so, are you saying that there are no people who call for the TOTAL DESTRUCTION of Israel? (MORE than just the destruction of the apartheid state.")
     
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    Israeli citizens are not allowed to live on land that their country occupies, so says international law. And my source is rather clear on it about who had to be dragged out for who.

    I just answered that question in my previous post.
     
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    What makes your source so reliable?

    No, I'm asking if you think that there are people who call for MORE than just the destruction of the apartheid state, but the actual TOTAL destruction of Israel.
     

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