Israel: Large-Scale Protests For Social Justice:

blah blah blah, nice rant which has nothing to do with reality (with respect to both Israel's policies and the objectives of the protesters). The protests have nothing to do with your agenda, forget about it! See those pieces of white cloth with blue star-like symbols depicted on them. They are called Israeli flags, the blue star-like images are the Star of David and this is what the protests are all about. They want to make Israel stronger, they have nothing in common with your agenda to make it weaker, deligitimize and destroy it.

 

So in other words they would move to South Beach or Anchorage in a heartbeat if the money was right ?

 

Ditto that , the American
Left has issues with Zionism and the Israeli left does not .

 

The Israeli Left does not ? Have you ever heard of B'Tselem ? Peace Now ? Breaking the Silence ? If you were to say ' yes ' then you'd have to justify your own contradictions. If you were to say ' no ' then people will think that your posts on the subject are spurious. Maybe there's somewhere in-between you'd care to have a shot at ?

 

Such a short post, so many errrors. B'Tselem does not represent Israel's left (or right) per se, they are not a party, they don't have a domestic agenda, they don't have a pro or anti-zionist agenda. Their single concern is human rights in the West Bank and they have nothing to do with these protests.

Gator Monroe is absolutely right. The mainstream Israeli left is represented by the Labor party (what's left of it) which is 100% zionist party. Suffice it to say that David Ben-Gurion, Golda Meir, Moshe Dayan, Yitzhak Rabin, Shimon Peres, Ehud Barak were all hard-core zionists and Labor Party members.

 

Stupid; you're making wild and unsubstantiated assumptions here. Contrary to your assertions a moderate Israel might actually make some progress as regards peace with the Palestinians. Unless, of course, some lunatic Zionist murders another moderate prime minister...like Rabin was murdered for agreeing with the Oslo Accords.

 

Tripe. It's the nature of the Left to oppose those very breaches of law, dignity and truth which the Right employs in its existential struggles. Leftists don't have to be a party in order to lead such opposition. Your boy is still in the nutcracker and your daft rhetoric has stimulated multiple yawns.

 

Too bad the protests in Tel Aviv have nothing to do with the situation in the West Bank and alleged breaches of law, much as you and your ilk would love to hijack them. The protesters are regular Israeli working people, virtually all of them are Israeli patriots and zionists, their demands are social and economic, B'Tselem and all other anti-Israel fringe nutcases are not involved in these protests in any way shape or form.

 

If Israel wasn't spending so much money on arms and new settlements in the occupied territories... If Israel wasn't funding and recruiting new immigrants, wouldn't they have more money for the social programs the people want?

 

No, not ' alleged '- PROVEN breaches of law, such as building illegal barriers across Palestinian territory and using Palestinians as human shields when they protest.

And this was the daft contention;

...NOT that Israeli leftwing groups are heading the social protests. Your strawman is dead.
Now then, is the perpetrator of the quoted nonsense going to answer the charges or scurry ?

 

My strawman? LOL, the thread is called "Israel: Large-Scale Protests For Social Justice:". It's about the protests, not about the left and their views on zionism and if you and your ilk did not attempt to capitalize on protests that have nothing in common with your Israel-hating agenda the issue of left and right would not have come up.

PS the mainstream Israeli left represented by the Labor party (Barak, Golda Meir etc) are hardcore Zionists. You are wrong on this account as well.

 

Worst case scenario Israel would no loger exist, best case scenario - Kassam rockets would be falling on Tel Aviv, not just Sderod today. The protesters understand that, their beef is with the distribution of wealth, with the gap between the rich and the rest, by and large they have no problems with the military budget and even settlements.

 

When will people like you get it through their skulls that criticising, and legitimately criticising, the Israeli government is not 'hating Israel'?
You can only start spouting 'anti-Israel' and 'anti-Semite'. Sorry pal but it doesn't work like that.

 

Golda Meir has been dead for 33 years...

 

Tiny minorities of Far Left Arab lovin Jews (Mostly second GENERATION American Jews and Red Diaper Grandbabies & descendants of Triangle Shrtwaist Fire victims & Supporters of Saccho & Vanzetti who wound up in Israel )

 

A moderate Israel was unable to keep the Jihadist Palestinians in check or to protect the civilians from suicide bombers, it was the right which saved thousands by creating the anti Jihad wall and taking a tough stance.

 

Israeli Left created Hamastan (Gaza)

 

I see, so you prefer continued conflict as evidenced by the hawkish attitudes of Likud and the Knesset, over a peaceful solution?

 

You prefer the Tiny Jewish State be desolved and the Remaining Jews be moved to Poland & Florida & Alaska ?

 

Where did I say or even suggest that?

 

It's the likely outcome of your Grand Peace Plan (Israel gives up the West Bank ,Golan, East Jerusalem, Buffer Zones of Sinai & Northern Israel) so why act as if you had not taken the Likely outcom of this into consideration ?

 

Israel needs to act according to the laws and charters to which it is a signatory, and withdraw its illegal occupation and settlements on Palestinian land. Simple.

 

England needs to Vacate the Malvinas and Remove every hint of British presence from Ireland ...

 

Do you think that this supports your daft assertion or undermines it ?

 

It shows how Far Left American Jews & Israeli Jews are Leftists First then in some cases American or Jewish or Israeli Second ...