Israel pushes U.S. to War ........Again

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  1. pitbull

    pitbull Active Member

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    However, that doesn't really matter. Most Jews are decent people. Only Zionists (jewish nationalists) are criminal minded. I know some Jews who are very sad about Israeli politics and how it fuels anti-Semitism.
     
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    Good for you to know such people.
    I went to the web and searched for the Khazarian people whom I suspect to be the trouble makers. And sure enough:

    Zionist (Khazarian Jews) Historical Claim to Israel is Unfounded.


    "The home to which so many other Ashkenazim Zionists have yearned to return has most likely never been theirs...many Christians may have much more Hebrew-'Israelite' blood in their veins than most of their Jewish neighbors."
    Much about organized Jewry is a fraud.
    God's "chosen people" actually have sought to displace Him.
    The Cabala, their most revered book, is a hoax.
    Similarly, as Alfred Lillienthal explained in this key 1953 essay, their claim to Israel is yet another ruse.
    Zionism and the NWO are partly a recrudescence of Khazar imperialism. (See also Benjamin Friedman, below)
    --
    "... the large majority of surviving Jews are of Eastern European origin, and thus perhaps mainly of Khazar origin... their ancestors came not from the Jordan but from the Volga, not from Canaan, but from the Caucasus... and that genetically they are more closely related to the Hun, Uigur and Magyar tribes than to the seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob." (Arthur Koestler, The Thirteenth Tribe, 1967, p. 17).


    Read on here:
    http://educate-yourself.org/cn/zionistisraelclaimunfounded15mar13.shtml

    Further...
    Leaked report: Israel acknowledges Jews in fact Khazars; Secret plan for reverse migration to Ukraine

    https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/lea...secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine/
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    Watch out Putin, they want Crimea and the Black Sea!!
    I can't imagine they would give up Palestine. Most likely they would divide themselves and claim both locations.
    I wonder, how much "Jewish" blood I have running through my veins!!! :hmm: :worry:
     
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    yasureoktoo Well-Known Member

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    Fail.
    Jews fled the mid-east, mostly from the 7th to the 12th century, toward eastern Europe, where they merged with the Kazzars, a mongoloid type People. Here they took Kazzar wives, and began a DNA strain.
    Mitochondrial DNA goes through the female.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're right in that the lies endlessly regurgitated by Zionist Hasbara agents are transparent & simple but like most lies, when repeated over & over, they are more readily believed by the gullible dupes who later parrot them, unthinkingly.

    Among the more durable & common lies frequently espoused by Hasbara disinformation agents are:

    Hasbara lie #1. "Iran is the number 1 sponsor of terrorism in the world."

    Fact: The US, Israel, the Saudis and many more sponsor terrorist groups far more savage than Hezbollah which spends about half of its budget on social services & humanitarian aid.

    Hasbara lie #2. "Iran threatened to wipe Israel from the face of the world."

    Fact: This deliberate mistranslation from Farsi remains widely believed in spite of being proven false(1).

    Hasbara Lie #3 "Israel is the only democracy in the entire region."

    Fact: Israel is an Apartheid theocracy that relegates non Jews to an inferior status while many of those under Israeli rule are denied the right to vote.

    Hasbara lie #4. "Israel wants peace."

    Fact: If Israel really wanted peace, it would cease its relentless & provocative illegal Settlement sprawl.
    In fact, Israel's Right Wing government prefers an ongoing conflict that allows zealous Zionists frequent opportunities to "mow the lawn" & steal more land.

    Hasbara lie #5 "Israel is America's staunch ally."

    Fact: Allies do not repeatedly attack other allies, steal top secret military intel., sell it to the highest bidder & thanklessly extort $ Trillions.
    Netanyahu: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away”

    http://web.archive.org/web/20060512...pecial_Reports/092105Madsen/092105madsen.html

    It is also a simple fact that Israel has the most extensive, costly & widely disseminated Propaganda Industry (aka Hasbara network) in the world that trains, scripts & pays Hasbara Trolls $400- per hour (5 hours per week) to regurgitate slick deceptions & phony platitudes for those gullible enough to believe them.

    Regrettably, America's pro Israel - anti Islamic MSM is complicit in reciting the same Hasbara falsehoods to the millions of unthinking Americans who lack any sense of critical literacy or knowledge of the region.

    For example, America's MSM was so completely complicit in selling the War on Iraq quietly pushed by AIPAC(2) that out of the approximately 85% Americans so eager to attack Iraq, only about 3% of those same pro war Americans could find Iraq on a map.

    Now, the same Israeli lobbies who were so "quietly successful" in driving America to war with Iraq under false pretenses are busily pushing America to war with a country whose "crime" is acting as a deterrent against Israeli regional hegemony and attempts at regional regime change.

    Re:
    Yes, the Zionists seem full of criminal energy when it comes to enforcing the world's oldest, most brutal & murderous foreign funded Occupation in history but they can now relax since they have Americans on Israeli soil to die for Israel.

    Thanks...


    (1) "Israeli Minister Agrees Ahmadinejad Never Said Israel ‘Must Be Wiped Off the Map’"
    https://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2...r-said-israel-must-be-wiped-off-the-map/?_r=0


    (2) “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.”
    AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. Sun, Jan. 2003


    (3) "US Commander: ‘US Troops Prepared to Die for Israel’ in War against Syria, Hezbollah"
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/israe...a-harbinger-of-war-on-syria-hezbollah/238768/


     
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    Do they now all look like you????
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not quite so fast there.

    What I believe is the most recent genetic study concludes that Ashkenazi Jews have their ancestry in pre Historic Europe.(1)

    Meanwhile, the DNA of the Canaanites who either intermarried with the ancient Hebrew invaders or survived the Hebrew massacre is found in today's modern Lebanese DNA (2)

    Consequently, Palestine is not the "Jewish homeland" as is alleged in Ancient Hebrew mythology.


    (1) "A substantial prehistoric European ancestry amongst Ashkenazi maternal lineages"
    https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms3543

    EXCERPT " Here we show that all four major founders, ~40% of Ashkenazi mtDNA variation, have ancestry in prehistoric Europe, rather than the Near East or Caucasus. Furthermore, most of the remaining minor founders share a similar deep European ancestry. Thus the great majority of Ashkenazi maternal lineages were not brought from the Levant, as commonly supposed, nor recruited in the Caucasus, as sometimes suggested, but assimilated within Europe."CONTINUED


    (2) "Bible says Canaanites were wiped out by Israelites but scientists just found their descendants living in Lebanon"
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/s...cendants-discovered-science-dna-a7862936.html

    EXCERPT "For God had ordered the Israelites to slaughter the apparently sinful Canaanites, saying: “You shall not leave alive anything that breathes. But you shall utterly destroy them.” And, according to a passage in the Old Testament's Book of Joshua, they did just that:

    “Thus Joshua struck all the land, the hill country and the Negev and the lowland and the slopes and all their kings. He left no survivor, but he utterly destroyed all who breathed, just as the Lord, the God of Israel, had commanded…. He left nothing undone of all that the Lord had commanded Moses.” (Joshua. 10:40, 11:15)

    However, a new genetic study has found that the Canaanites actually managed to survive this purge of their traditional homeland, passing on their DNA over the centuries to their numerous descendants in modern-day Lebanon."CONTINUED
     
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    Good point, they don't look mongoloid, so it looks like their DNA was overwhelmed.
     
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    yasureoktoo Well-Known Member

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    and this is 12th century.
     
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    ...by pigs??
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Please clarify your point.
     
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    most recent genetic study concludes that Ashkenazi Jews have their ancestry in pre Historic Europe.

    When is this dated.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A discovery doesn't have to happen but one time in order to establish a fact.
    The article was printed in October of 2013 so I assure that the study was completed that year.

    Do you have a more recent study that attempts to refute it?


    "Surprise: Ashkenazi Jews Are Genetically European"
    https://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html
    EXCERPT "The origin of the Ashkenazi Jews, who come most recently from Europe, has largely been shrouded in mystery. But a new study suggests that at least their maternal lineage may derive largely from Europe.

    Though the finding may seem intuitive, it contradicts the notion that European Jews mostly descend from people who left Israel and the Middle East around 2,000 years ago."CONTINUED
     
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    yasureoktoo Well-Known Member

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    lolololo

    You don't ever read these do you.
    Just the title, which leads to believe they are European.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You will note that I also included part of the text from the same article I cited in Post #93 & you are unable to refute.
     
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    yasureoktoo is still a first year apprentice in the Hasbara agency. He/she no nothin!:smoking:
     
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    I wonder why Zionists need racism to turn Jews into a special group. Isn't religion and Jewish culture enough?

    They should have learned what racism does, when they look at the history of their ancestors from Europe. But they obviously did not.
     
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    How quickly & easily the persecuted eagerly assume the role of persecutors.

    I assume that you are referring to Israel's revised, racist "Nationality Law" that relegates Palestine's native residents & other non Jews to an inferior status(1).

    I'm afraid that Israel's Right Wing element knows very well what institutionalized racism can lead to as Israel moves more & more to the extreme right.
    Since a known result of such an inflammatory is the incitement of more Palestinian demonstrations, such unnecessary & repressive laws are simply an extension of Israel's "Provoke-then-Massacre" M.O. by which Israel has carried out its ethnic cleansing agenda for decades.

    "Moshe Dayan, in his diaries said: "Our strategy was always to provoke the Arabs and get an appropriate response so we could attack and smash them."
    http://www.sott.net/signs/signs154.htm

    In other words Israel's Right Wing element knows that such racist laws will provoke demonstrations by which Israel can steal more land and build more illegal & provocative Settlements & kill unarmed, non Jewish protestors when they demonstrate against this & other provocations.

    Why does Israel pass such blatantly racist laws & engage in internationally condemned land theft & ethnic cleansing?
    Because it knows that powerful Israeli lobbies ensure that Israel will continue to receive $ Trillions in "aid" & unconditional support from the US regardless of the crimes its government commits.

    No successful American politician goes against the wishes of the 52 major Israeli lobbies that effectively dominate US Policy.

    (1) "Israel approves controversial Jewish nationality law"
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/wor...ontroversial-jewish-nationality-law-1.3570017
    EXCERPTS "The Bill, pushed through by the right-wing and religious coalition, definesIsrael as the nation-state of the Jewish people. The measure sets “the development of Jewish settlements nationwide as a national priority” and downgrades the status of Arabic from an official language to one with “special status”.
    “The result of this legislation will be to perpetuate the inferior status of the Arabs in Israel.”CONTINUED


    (2) “Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/almost-half-of-israeli-jews-want-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html

    EXCERPT “Almost half of Jewish Israelis believe Arabs should be "expelled or transferred" from Israel, a survey has found.
    A study carried out by the Pew Research Centre found that around one in five adults questioned “strongly agreed” with the controversial statement, which amounts to ethnic cleansing under some definitions.

    The Encyclopaedia Britannica describes the act as “attempting to create ethnically homogeneous geographic areas through the deportation or forcible displacement of persons belonging to particular ethnic group”, while a United Nations report in 1993 additionally specified the use of “force or intimidation”.CONTINUED
     
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    I refer to "Israel" as it is today. They started up in 1948 with massacres and expulsion of the natives of Palestine. Since then they have been lying and betraying the world and showing themselves to be the good guys and the Palestinians as barbarians and terrorists.

    Such behavior is totally unacceptable nowadays. It comes from the time of European colonialism.

    I think that the project "Israel" can be considered failed.
     
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    If the "Israel project" is not "failed", it is certainly seriously endangered.

    It is especially tragic because Israel has so much going for it and has the dubious distinction of being the most heavily subsidized country on the face of the earth.
    However, I feel that unconditional US aid to Israel is detrimental to both countries in that it rewards Israel's criminal Right Wing & undermines Israel's peace seeking element.
    Briefly put, Israel has absolutely no incentive to seek peace when it is generously rewarded by the US Government for its ethnic cleansing, violations of International Law, acts of aggression and relentless expansionism (i.e Settlements").

    Apologists for Israel's Right Wing criminality continuously ask: "What would you do if people fired rockets at you?" but ignore the reality that those "people" are Palestine's native residents & are simply resisting the oldest & most murderous foreign funded occupation in recorded history.

    Yes, through Israel's extensive PR / Hasbara Industry, its army of trained, paid & scripted Hasbara Trolls and a complicit MSM, Palestine's native residents have, indeed, been miscast as sub-human "barbarians and terrorists" while the violent & ever encroaching, militant Israeli Settlers are cast as hapless victims whose neighbors torment them for no reason.

    Meanwhile, no matter how frequently I ask members of Israel's army of Hasbara apologists, I have yet to hear of ANY native population that has not resisted a brutal, foreign invasion - Occupation.

    Thanks
     
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