Israel says Arrow-3 missile shield passes U.S. trials, warns Iran

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  1. Dayton3

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    "storage" does not mean "deployed" or for that matter "useable" Basically anything that deep is sealed up in a cave and can't actually be launched.

    and you said "reportedly".

    Reported why whom?
     
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    You should watch the video because its obvious you still haven't.
     
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    I am open to debate issues, including some of the "points" you have raised, but if your interest is to hurl accusations, then you can have the last word on the issue. I am not interested in that.
     
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    The video linked to in post #2? It has nothing about the Iranian nuclear missile storage "cities"
     
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    This video which came with post you were originally responding to

    p.s.
    whoever talked about "nuclear"?
     
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    Islam is a backwards murderous misogynistic tribal cult. It really has no place in this day and age.
     
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    1) "nuclear" is the only thing anyone cares about.
    2) You cannot effectively target aircraft carriers with ballistic missiles.
    3) Anyone can see that those "cities" are not 500 meters underground. Sure there might be 500 meters from the tunnel entrances to where they were filming, but that in no way indicates 500 meters underground.
    4) Despite what the video claims, you can't launch missiles from 500 meters underground.
    5) Look closely at the launch footage. It appears clear that the missiles being launched were raised to the surface and then launched. This is considered a horrendously dangerous and vulnerable method that the U.S. abandoned in the 1950s.

    6) These "missile cities" are a complete joke.
     
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    At least you watched the video. On pretty much everything else your musings are unsubstantiated and wrong.

    https://thediplomat.com/2013/05/meet-irans-carrier-killer-the-khalij-fars/
    Meet Iran’s “Carrier Killer”: The Khalij Fars

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/sink-carriers-how-iran-could-go-war-against-us-navy-54022
    Sink the Carriers: How Iran Could Go to War Against the U.S. Navy

    All about the missiles.


     
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    You've got it backwards.
    Had Iran R&D centers of that scale, no one would have dreamed of applying sanctions on it.
    But Iran chose to develop the cry "death to America!" rather than hi-tech.
    That is why they have the all the sanctions rather than all the R&D centers.
    Shame on Iran leaders, because the people could have done so much good for Iran and the world but the leaders chose to isolate the nation in order to control them.
     
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    Besides Iranian missiles, Iran's defense doctrine relies heavily on Iran's submarine force. I will give a bit of introduction about that here.
    http://www.hisutton.com/Iran_Submarine_forces.html

    Iranian Submarine Forces
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    Iran's Ghadir midget subs, though small, have been equipped with submarine launched cruise missiles.
    https://www.military.com/video/iran-submarine-test-fires-anti-ship-cruise-missile
    Iran Submarine Test Fires anti-ship Cruise Missile
     
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    Iran, partly due to sanctions forcing it to self sufficient, is among the top producers of various technologies and industries (steel, cement, automobile, robotics, military, ...} and the leader in these industries in the MENA region. Don't have the time or patience to educate you on all of them, but here is an older report from Baron's and a CNN report on Iran's steel industry, including how Iran manages to export its steel despite sanctions.
    https://www.barrons.com/articles/iran-the-next-frontier-1427508357
    As it turned out, the Europeans were too chicken to stand up to Trump!

    https://edition.cnn.com/videos/business/2014/11/28/spc-marketplace-middle-east-iran-nuke-deal.cnn
    Iran's steel industry's big plans
     
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    The Iranians can claim they have developed warp drive for all I care.

    It won't make it true.
     
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    Okay, its not true even though the US military and intelligence communities have confirmed this.

    Incidentally, Iran regularly tests and shows off its anti carrier ballistic missiles in war games in the Persian Gulf in front of US eyes. And those missiles come in different varieties.
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    Every missile ever deployed has worked several orders of magnitude better in war games than in actual combat.
     
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    I can never prove anything to you, but besides the fact that I already quoted an article earlier which alludes to it, you can find more confirmation in both the annual threat assessments by the Pentagon and a naval intelligence report on the matter.

    In the meantime, here is a report in the (US) Military Times which you might find interesting.

    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2019/06/04/what-war-with-iran-could-look-like/
    What war with Iran could look like
    ...
     
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    Here is a rare moment where you say something that I agree with.
     
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    So is New York City. Does that mean New York City and Jews are the same thing? No, it doesn't. Israel is not THE Jewish homeland. Jewish people have MANY homelands besides Israel. And not all Jewish people are loyal to Israel or even recognize it as a genuine Jewish state. The endless attempts by Israel's partisans to identify Israel with Jewish people as a whole is both intellectually dishonest and malicious. One could even characterize it as antisemitic. The assumption that all Jews must identify with Israel is prejudiced and a stereotype. So why are you trafficking in stereotypes about Jewish people?
     
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    I use logic to analyze the available evidence.
     
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    Sorry, but Israel is a Jewish State.
     
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    Peace in the region? The region in question is utterly chaotic. So according to your own standard, US support for Israel has failed miserably to achieve its objective.

    Only if Israel wants to be showered with thousands of missiles and mortar rounds in response.

    Yes, it is simple. Yet you've managed to misread the situation totally. How did that happen?
     
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    Sorry, but I never said it wasn't.
     
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    You said Israel is NOT the Jewish homeland. You're wrong.
     
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    Because it's obvious. The population of Israel is roughly 8 million. The total number of Shiite Muslims in Iraq, Iran, and Syria is over 100 million. Without international backing, Israel is in serious trouble.
     

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