Israel's Choices… an update to God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land

This was written as an update to "God's Peace Plan for the Holy Land."

 

Here is a summary of the document that this is based on:

http://www.godspeaceplan.blogspot.ca/2014/07/gods-peace-plan-for-holy-land-peace.html
CHAPTER 1

 

I fail to see how the jews of Israel would voluntarily give up sovereignty of the "jewish homeland".

And correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Judea part of the west bank?

 

Masada is a myth.. The Sicarri had been raiding and looting the countryside... killing Jewish farmers and were finally penned up by the Romans in Herod's fortress retreat. There is zero evidence that they committed suicide.

 

Thank you... you have proven that the 'LAND" belongs to the Jews!!!
Now what remains to be said loudly... is a fact, the Jews fought the Romans to liberate their country.

 

not according to international law.

 

No it proves that 2000 years ago the Romans ruled in the area now known as Palestine/Israel nothing else!

 

The Jews fought each other in a civil war.. and Vespasian was brought in with his garrisons from Syria to quell it.

 

We have all that in the Museum, modern Jewish Israeli Museum......

 

International law is futile against Terrorism. we saw what happens to those relying on futile laws.

 

yes, we know that Israel (*)(*)(*)(*)s on International Law.

thank you for admitting this

 

"Admitting" lol, I'm saying what I think Im not the dictator of a carribian Island state, you Lefties are so uptight thank God we dont have many of you here.

 

I don't mean to be offensive to skeptics…. but some awfully unusual things have happened since Israel was created that imply that something higher than "internation law" is involved?!

Whoever that/those "being(s)/Beings of light" is/are who meet with people who have a brush with death…… it seems that they have a lot more ability to work out events on this third rock than the United Nations does!


http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...s-p-m-brokering-jordan-israel-peace-deal.html
Please pray or meditate on Canada's P. M. brokering Jordan - Israel peace deal?

I know that many of you pray or meditate so please

pray that P. M. Stephen Harper initiate a peace deal between Jordan and Israel?
(post #2)…….Several years ago I was led to read a book again about a near death experiencer who was shown that Jordan and Israel would become like one nation…. I wonder if this is true and if it would be according to the will of God for this to happen soon?


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My guess on the new colour for Jordan would be GREEN…. as Isaiah 35 is fulfilled and the deserts of Jordan would be turned green through a great increase in desalination of ocean water……. Not to mention the blessing of God!

http://saharaforestproject.com/projects/jordan.html

 

What did you personally think of the way that P. M. Stephen Harper disagreed with the other G-8 leaders back in 2011?

Personally.... I was impressed...… in spite of the fact that his political party is terribly weak on the environment..... at least they have a wise and ethical policy toward Israel.


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...per-stands-alone-at-g8-summit/article4263322/

On Israel, Harper stands alone at G8 summit - The Globe and Mail

 

Well, America belongs to the Americans, too.

Does that mean we can just toss people with a thousands year history here just because "we" have the military might to do so?

The "Jews" per sa of Israel have a nice idea in wanting a "Jewish State". But people who are not Jews still have HUMAN rights.
The cleansings and land theft is wrong, PERIOD, and I don't care to what ends it serves Jews.

Mister Bender, what will you ever do if America has some new-born Christian epiphany and the Christian High Ones decide that America must return to being a Christian state? And they decide to throw all Jews out of the land. Deport them, chase them off into Mexico and Canada.

Oh, what will you ever do?

My friend, "human rights" trumps all political desires. Israel is fried, it's just a question of time.

 

This is bunk and a waste of my time... Go open a book of history, sit in library and read a book from top to bottom. BTW My family name is BENDOR...

a) The Jews did not throw anyone out of the country, it was the surrounding Arab countries' orders that made them leave...


A collection of historical quotations relating to the Arab refugees:
Collected ~by Moshe Kohn

ON APRIL 23, 1948 Jamal Husseini, acting chairman of the Palestine Arab Higher Committee (AHC), told the UN Security Council: "The Arabs did not want to submit to a truce ... They preferred to abandon their homes, belongings and everything they possessed."

ON SEPTEMBER 6, 1948, the Beirut Daily Telegraph quoted Emil Ghory, secretary of the AHC, as saying: "The fact that there are those refugees is the direct consequence of the action of the Arab states in opposing partition and the Jewish state. The Arab states agreed upon this policy unanimously..."

ON OCTOBER 2, 1948, the London Economist reported, in an eyewitness account of the flight of Haifa's Arabs: "There is little doubt that the most potent of the factors [in the flight] were the announcements made over the air by the Arab Higher Executive urging all Arabs in Haifa to quit ... And it was clearly intimated that those Arabs who remained in Haifa and accepted Jewish protection would be regarded as renegades."

On February 19, 1949, THE JORDANIAN daily Falastin wrote : "The Arab states... encouraged the Palestinian Arabs to leave their homes temporarily in order to be out of the way of the Arab invasion armies."

ON JUNE 8, 1951, Habib Issa, secretary-general of the Arab League, wrote in the New York Lebanese daily al-Hoda that in 1948, Azzam Pasha, then League secretary, had "assured the Arab peoples that the occupation of Palestine and of Tel Aviv would be as simple as a military promenade ... Brotherly advice was given to the Arabs of Palestine to leave their land, homes and property, and to stay temporarily in neighboring fraternal states."

ON APRIL 9, 1953, the Jordanian daily al-Urdun quoted a refugee, Yunes Ahmed Assad, formerly of Deir Yassin, as saying: "For the flight and fall of the other villages, it is our leaders who are responsible, because of the dissemination of rumors exaggerating Jewish crimes and describing them as atrocities in order to inflame the Arabs ... they instilled fear and terror into the hearts of the Arabs of Palestine until they fled, leaving their homes and property to the enemy."

ANOTHER refugee told the Jordanian daily a-Difaa on September 6, 1954: "The Arab governments told us, 'Get out so that we can get in.' So we got out, but they did not get in."

THE PRIME Minister of Syria in 1948, Khaled al-Azem, in his memoirs, published in 1973, listed what he thought were the reasons for the Arab failure in 1948: " ... the fifth factor was the call by the Arab governments to the inhabitants of Palestine to evacuate it and leave for the bordering Arab countries ... We brought destruction upon a million Arab refugees by calling on them and pleading with them to leave their land."

"FOLLOWING a visit to refugees in Gaza, a British diplomat reported the following: 'But while they express no bitterness against the Jews...they speak with the utmost bitterness of the Egyptians and other Arab states: 'We know who our enemies are,' they will say, and they are referring to their Arab brothers who, they declare, persuaded them unnecessarily to leave their homes." -

IN THE MARCH 1976 issue of Falastin a-Thaura, then the official journal of the Beirut-based PLO, Mahmud Abbas ("Abu Mazen"), PLO spokesman, wrote: "The Arab armies entered Palestine to protect the Palestinians from the Zionist tyranny but, instead, they abandoned them, forced them to emigrate and to leave their homeland, and threw them into prisons similar to the ghettos in which the Jews used to live."

British Foreign Office Document #371/75342/XC/A/4991 [From "Revising or Devising Israel's History" by Prof. Shlomo Slonim in Jewish Action, Summer 5760/2000, Vol. 60 #4]

This page was produced by Joseph E. Katz
Middle Eastern Political and Religious History Analyst
Brooklyn, New York

 

Until the year 2000 I had zero understanding of a movement where people are given glimpses of a future...… and clearly this ties in with what Dr. Albert Einstein stated that if we observe the future........ we alter the future!

A David Herzog has been given some sort of glimpse of American Jews being persecuted during a time of economic trouble in the USA. Apparently a segment of the population blames the nation of Israel......… and American Jews are then in trouble........ they flee to Canada and then on to Israel almost like the Underground RAilroad that transported slaves from the southern USA into Canada!

This is a shocking idea......… also rather offensive...… but it needs to be considered... just in case?!

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...g-d-planning-another-exodus-but-time-usa.html

Could G-d be planning another Exodus? But this time from the USA????

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Perhaps it is no wonder that near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley was shown that the nations of Israel and Jordan would become almost like one nation?!

I strongly suspect that the new color that Jordan was changing to.... would be green!

http://saharaforestproject.com/projects/jordan.html

 

Thank you for this excellent history lesson!

Well said!

 

100% dishonest Hasbara.

hundreds of thousands of Arab civilians were forced out of Israel during the 1948 war, consistent with the goals of Plan Dalet, which called on the Zionist forces to provoke violence by Arabs so as to force them across the border.

after the war, Israel forced tens of thousands more Arabs out of the state along the border areas.

these are facts that are not in dispute.

 

They were roaming and raiding the countryside and killing other Jews.

 

no sir, land doesn't belong to people that occupied it 2,000 years ago.

it belongs to its current residents.

that means that Israel belongs to the Jews....but the West Bank belongs to the Arabs.

 

What do you think would happen if G-d were to organize another major Exodus but this time from the USA?

http://www.politicalforum.com/relig...g-d-planning-another-exodus-but-time-usa.html
Could G-d be planning another Exodus? But this time from the USA????

….At the seventeen minute mark in this video Messianic Jewish visionary David Herzog states that he was shown that during a time of economic crisis in the USA a segment of the population would blame Israel……… as well as Jews living in America…. and American Jews would be forced to flee from the United State…… and go to Israel. Apparently many of them would choose a route through Canada?!?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QLsDpTpJXc

Even one percent of a population….. who believes that violence is justified……….. and who hate another group of people and blame their own problems on that group of people……… can make life very difficult for an easily identified ethnic group?????!

 

Massada is sort of a myth.. The most violent of the zealots were raiding the countryside and killing rural Jews until they were penned up at Herod's fortress retreat by the Romans. The siege lasted weeks not months and there is NO evidence for any mass suicide.. just pig bones and the remains of some 15 skeletons. It was a huge stink in Israel.

 

Interesting theory!

I had never heard this one before!

 

Oh its not theory.. Yigal something was the archeologist and he falsified his findings .. His students on the dig came forward with the evidence... They had buried the remains of Roman soldiers who ate pork in Jewish burial grounds.