Isreal strikes Iranian targets in Syria.

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    www.cbc.ca/news/world/isreal-military-iran-syria-1.4986160

    So....isreal is hitting Iranian targets in Syria....wheres the tough talk from the kremlin about no missiles or planes will be hitting syria since there are dozens of russki military stationed throughout Syria....and those magnificent S300s that will shoot down all incoming missiles&planes?

    In the end...if the Isrealis really wanted too....Assad's head would be in the bottom of Bibis goldfish tank in 72 hrs or less....and crickets from anyone else.
     
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    Intresting ... of course all again due to fight bad evil terror and backed by big brother USA to be a valid action.
    Maybe Syrian Air Force will be allowed to do the same with a raid on an Israeli Air Base as answer, because where is the difference if thsese ionist terrorist give a crap on sovereignity and internal affairds of an other country and Syria does the same?
     
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    They could probably trounce the Russians in Syria as well, which would be hilarious.
     
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    so israel or westerns power might makes right?
     
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    Not saying it would be right, just that it would be hilarious.
     
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    Not sure what is hilarious about starting WW3 ? You have a strange sense of humor. - and a fked up perspective in general.
     
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    Might always makes right. Japan and Germany were wrong. The USA was right.
     
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    The world needs a good hot war and to experience danger to get its humility back.
     
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    I think you made a very good point. Certainly Israel could use some humility.

    The idea that attacking Russia - or Iran for that matter - is required because of threats to Israel is preposterous nonsense on steroids.

    If Iran was to supply Hamas/Hezbollah with sophisticated military technology - Like what was given to the Al Qaeda and ISIS in Syria - then Israel would have something to complain about.

    This has not happened - the rockets used by Hamas/Hezbollah are home made rockets - essentially sexed up fireworks. There has never been a "Missile" (rockets are often referred to as missiles but these are not real missiles - with guidance and so on) fired by Hamas/Hezbollah on Israel.

    Right now Hamas/Hezbollah is fighting with the modern equivalent of sticks and stones - God forbid Russia were to start providing with sophisticated technology.

    This talk about attacking Russia in Syria is mindless stupidity - Israel - at least in the past - has coordinated with Russia when it attacks to avoid unpleasant consequences.
     
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    We need it here. The sound of mortar rounds in the air, rationing of food, potable water in short supply, watching people die.
     
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    I can not say that I agree with the thought of being attacked but - there is no doubt that it would wake people up from their stupor.
     
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    We are already deep in WW3. The war on terror.

    Israel is certainly not going to attack Russia, nor Iran. We're attacking Iranian weapons storage facilities in Syria, a country in a state of war with Israel since forever. We're also trying to prevent the transfer of sophisticated weapons from Iran to Hezbollah.

    Sticks and stones destroyed empires.

    I believe Israel still coordinates with Russia on some levels, tough Russian facade notwithstanding. Russia is not our enemy.
     
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    I agree with much of what you have said except the "trying to prevent the transfer of weapons to Hezbollah" comment. As stated - Hezbollah has never fire a missile (as in real missile) at Israel. Never. They are all home made rockets.

    If Iran/Syria wanted Hezbollah to a sophisticated missile - they would have them. Full Stop. Firing just one such missile into Israel - which would case major destruction - would create major chaos. The theater would change over night.

    Sticks and stones have never destroyed empires. Ever. The rise of an Empire throughout history has been "technological innovation leading to military superiority leading to economic hegemony". l study this stuff.

    Take the gatling gun - with one gunship the Brit's could pretty much take over an entire African nation (fighting back with sticks and stones).

    This is the rising phase. In the next phase technology spreads .. the African Nation gets the Gun. Now you will have to send not just one gunship - but an entire Armada. This is expensive and you will take major casualties. The cost of projecting power has increased.

    Eventually the ROI becomes negative and the Empire goes bankrupt. The fall of empires is because of sophisticated technology getting into the hands of the enemy - not because of sticks and stones.
     
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    And probably would do nothing....just like at Deir Eizzor syria...back in Feb.2018.
     
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    Well, i doubt Russia is our "friend"....if not our enemy.
     
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    43 Israeli civilians were killed by those "home made rockets" during the second Lebanon war. Northern Israel was paralyzed. I wish all who underestimate Hezbollah and Hamas rockets have one fall on their own houses.

    Most people are totally missing the point of the "oh, so primitive" unguided home made rockets. They're not used to inflict real damage to infrastructure. They're used to spread terror. Let's not forget that both Hezbollah and Hamas are terror organizations, their fight is against all Israelis, young and old, able or invalid, soldiers and civilians alike. Same method used by terrorists in Algeria to make the French go home. What sophisticated weapons did the Algerian terrorists use?

    Hezbollah leaders boast of having sophisticated guided missiles as well. They actually fired one such Iranian made guided shore-to-ship missile on an Israeli navy boat, killing 4 sailors.

    What sophisticated weapons had the barbarians who defeated the Roman Empire?
     
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    So the Jews of Europe were wrong?
     
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    The Jews were riding in boxcars to their deaths in gas converted shower rooms. They had zero might to be right.
     
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    Which means they were wrong based on your idiotic logic, yes?
     
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    They weren't Axis, they weren't Allies. They were outside of the set of combatants. Their guns had been taken away and they weren't even a subset.
     
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    I understand that rockets kill people but, that is not the point... sure if you fire hundreds of home made rockets you are going to kill some people. This is nothing however compared to the number of the people killed by Israel using sophisticated technology.

    I would like to see the details of what they used on the boat. Regardless - this does not change the fact that Hezbollah has never used sophisticated weaponry of any significance on Israel proper (as in tens of thousands of tons - like the stuff provided to Al Qaeda).

    To be honest - this is what Israel deserves for being involved in this dastardly deed - but, that is beside the point.

    Romans - Have you seen Gladiator ? I know it is just a movie but the idea is that the Romans had far superior weapons. Over time - the Barbarians got better weapons - they also improved their tactics.

    Atilla the Hun - who was the nail in the coffin pretty much - had sophisticated technology. He certainly was not using sticks and stones.
     
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    Which made them weak and easily beaten by the Nazis’ might, which means the Jews were wrong according t9 the logic you have established and are now trying to change the goalposts on.
     
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    That would be correct -- if there had been no force mighty enough to make the Nazis wrong.
     
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    And to be honest with you - The whole mess with ISIS and the rest of the barbarians there is so karma fitting to the fanatic hate the Arab leaders nourished against Israel for decades, much like the terror cells in Europe that those gov's decided to ignore, Karma.
     
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    Isis only came into being because of the West's decision to destroy Iraq most likely for Israel.
     

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