It’s down to Bernie vs Bloomberg??

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  1. Quasar44

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    I think it’s safe to say it’s down to these 2

    Bernie is an outspoken, old style Marxist of the highest level

    Bloomberg is a New style Marxist light kind of like a Merkel

    Both want massive open borders, huge taxes , massive tens of millions of more 5th world peasants into USA, green energy lies etc ...

    Both seem to hate American values and white people

    I don’t know who wins between the Jewish Karl Marx and the Jewish Merkel

    what do u think ?
     
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    Bernie Leads by several points but “the Soros guys “ want Bloomberg
    Soros decides
     
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    Michel Bloomberg is suggesting a tax on the rich that is less than Warren's wealth tax. Making her populace cry obsolete and he smoothed it over. Of course, even far-left wealthy individuals, like Bloomberg or Soros, want to keep their wealth. :)
     
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    I lost my candidate when Andrew Yang left the race. I still have to look up the Klobuchar and Buttigieg in their issues to see which one I like better. I'm procrastinating. I don't plan to vote for Sanders until the inevitable when he's the last candidate, with maybe Bloomberg, and he leads in the race for the presidency.

    Between the two I'm leaning towards Bernie. But my support for Bloomberg comes and goes as I hear different things about him.
     
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    Bloomberg is not a marxist and is more of a centrist dem with GOP leanings. Also Biden and Buttigieg have equivalent polling numbers, with Klobuchar behind them.
     
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    You make a valid point! Besides, the rich (especially the liberal ones) are always willing to suggest higher taxes on themselves -- but then completely evade the EFFECT of those higher taxes by using all the loopholes, shelters, exclusions, exemptions, and deductions that they make damned sure remain in the various tax codes that are supposed to ensure that everyone -- high and low -- pays their own 'fair share'....

    Truth? Both "Fat Cat" Republicans AND "Limousine Liberal" Democrats like the execrable tax situation in this country exactly the way it is!
     
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    What's Bloomberg's GOP leanings?
     
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    Bloomberg is the only one who would have a chance against Trump and not a great one at that. He's the ONLY one of theirs I would even consider. He is the only thing standing between a Socialist Democrat Party and having a chance of ever winning elections again. But if they do force the nomination to him then there is going to be war and splinter the party apart anyway. So they are between a rock and a hard place and no I do NOT think Perez is the man to manage that.

    Their best course IMHO prevent Sanders throw everything to Bloomberg, deal with the Sanders faction revolting let them split, urge them to split and try to when back moderates.
     
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    Stop and frisk, opposing Obamacare when it came out, has donated tens of millions to Republicans, has actually been a Republican for a while, and much more. He is having to disavow some of this as he runs for the democratic nomination.
     
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    I'm talking now, what GOP leanings now that are coming into play?
     
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    He probably is going to claim that he has none, since he is trying to win the GOP nomination. But lets be honest, he still believes in stop and frisk even though he tries to deny it.
     
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    Really? Bloomberg doesn't seem to be top 3 right now. Sanders is the front-runner though... next would be probably Buttigieg or Biden.

    That would make them not far left. Far left would involve rich people not keeping their wealth.
     
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    You know what's funny? The more I hear about what Michael Bloomberg did and said years ago, the more I LIKE him. He sounds like someone with down-to-Earth common sense, circumspect intelligence, and a lot of business-sense.

    Now, if only he'd quit bitching about the right of citizens to protect themselves with firearms, and getting swept up in really silly sh!t, like who gets to drink what kind of soda water, he might be able to make a good presentation to the voters who matter the most of all -- the "Rational Middle-Class"....

    [​IMG] . Horse-faced WHAT...?! :applause:
     
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    I would hope Bloomberg DOES still believe in 'stop-and-frisk'. If you want to disrupt CRIMINALS, examine the population that has the MOST of them per-capita....

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]. "Yeh, but you sound like some kinda RACIST muh-fuh to me!" :deadhorse:
     
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    Well, Bloomberg isn't going to support stop and frisk any more than Trump is to support the liberal policies he believed in before running for the GOP nomination.
     
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    Yep; Eugene V. Debs is dead.
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    Neither of them are Marxists. Marx wanted to abolish landlords and get rid of private property and ownership.

    Bloomberg is a capitalist, the kind Marx would of executed. Bernie Sanders wants to keep owners and landlords and just tax them more to have more social services.
     
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    Lol. Such a big fan of per capita stats, then posts a totally misleading chart, which ignores it completely.
     
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    Bloomberg is a mini Marxist and is like the Rothschilds
    Bernie is More Mao
     
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    Bernie is like Mao? You mean he's going to force us all onto collective farms?

    How exactly is he like Mao?
     
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    He was a Republican when he was first elected.
     
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    Actually, the chart illustrates just how much WORSE the situation with Black crime is!

    Think! Blacks make up only ~14% of the American population, and yet the Black segment of our population commits violent crimes on THAT scale! Let that sink in for a minute....

    The hope that Bloomberg has of being selected as the nominee lies in the possibility that the "rational Middle-Class" is fully aware that Bloomberg himself is also FULLY AWARE of who commits the most crime, and how to control it.

    The other candidates are lost in a fog of politically-correct delusion about the FACTS surrounding crime, and would obviously do little or NOTHING to lessen crime's effects in the nation....
     
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    Let me explain some basic statistics. There are two groups. Group A and Group B. Group a is 90% of the population and b is 10%. If they committed even crime spread out on the population. B on A crime would be far higher than A on B because A is such a higher percent of the population. The higher the percentage of the population that you are, the more total victims of crime you would have. That's why that statistic is engineered to make it look worse than it is. Its pretty easy math.

    White on White crime dwarfs all of those stats and its very conveniently left out.
     
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    And of course the more compelling case is that that chart is apparently made up. (I was suspicious, because it looks like a middle schooler made that color scheme) I went to the 2018 victim of violent crime report. You can find it here, scroll down to data tables and go to table 14. It is nothing like what's presented in your graphic. It is an examination of the race, age and gender of victims. (Blacks are twice as likely as whites to be the victim of violent crime) but says nothing about the race of the criminals. The numbers are per capita and totally different than what is in your graphic. That's called Fake News! Somebody fell for some nonsense!

    Next time you lecture about FACTS maybe you should actually know what they are.

    https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=6686
     
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    Here is the real Bureau of justice statistics national crime victimization survey 2018 table 14

    I screenshot it and uploaded it just for those too lazy to do their own research.

    Screenshot_2020-02-24-12-28-56.png

    P.S. never lecture people about facts again.
     
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