It has begun. New Republican totalitarian Congress to ban abortion after 20 weeks

They certainly didn't waste any time. A bill to ban abortions after 20 weeks at the national level. Now that the totalitarians have got themselves enough of a majority, it's time to clamp down on a woman's right to choose. 20 weeks isn't worst case scenario but we all know this is just the first of many assaults that will occur. Bolstered by a sympathetic U.S. Congress, state governments like South Dakota, Arizona, and the Gulf states will likely tighten the noose even harder around women arrogant and delusional enough to think they deserve control of their reproductive system, not their elected officials.

I predict many a gloating rightie will be found around this forum and sub-forum over the coming days. Stay off the streets folks, there will be quite a few tipsy high horses stumbling around as their riders get drunk on their heroic narratives and self-righteousness.

To be quite honest, this is probably the first of many assaults on common sense itself that will be unleashed by our new authoritarian regime. Right-leaning folks love to throw that phrase around when they're talking about Obama, lets see how they enjoy it now that it can realistically be applied.


http://www.redstate.com/diary/obrienc2/2015/01/07/new-congress-wastes-time-introducing-pro-life-legislation/

 

So funny...that last line, """it’s encouraging to see this new Congress already making good on its promise to protect life. """


WHOSE LIFE? Theirs and fetuses and screw the rest of the country.....

So when does this "life protecting " Congress of do-gooders end the war ?

When do Repubs "protect life " with affordable health care?

 

While it's not likely to get through the Senate, or not be VETOED by Mr. Obama, they are to represent their constituents and apparently they agree. I don't understand any logical reasoning for destroying 50 Million future people, since RvW, but then I don't know why any lady today, with all the means to prevent getting pregnant, would need an abortion.

 

So you are against us having elective abortion standards like the rest of the world? Almost all of Europe bans elective abortions after 18 weeks. Germany bans elective abortions after 12 weeks, for example, and medically needed abortions after 22 weeks.

 

Except Repubs have fought successfully to close clinics that give affordable accessible healthcare to women making birth control/abortion/health care/cancer screening harder for some women to obtain. Some Repubs have sided with companies who refuse to include BC in insurance policies and the best is expensive..

"Ladies" roll: ) or what are accurately called women, are human and make mistakes with BC, some don't use it, some can't use it ...humans shouldn't be punished because they made a mistake on BC usage.


Now , are the Repubs going to start saving "life" by recalling all our troops ?

,,,,,by providing Affordable Health Care ???

 

It's not banned at any stage here in Canada, yet doctors will not do them much past 20 weeks unless there is a compelling reason. It's not for the govt. to practice medicine.

 

I'm actually not. I just know the direction that the anti-abortion movement is taking in this country after looking at what's happening at the state level. 20 weeks isn't a compromise, it's merely a rest stop to tinkle and get some old stale chips from the vending machine, one leg of an ongoing journey towards total abolishment of a woman's right over her body. This isn't a slippery slope deal where there's some "what if they then do this...", it's already been shown what they'll do.

If an 18-24 week elective cutoff were instated, I would want it to include two exceptions. The mother's health, obviously, should that become threatened after the cutoff, and the discovery of previously undetectable birth defects.

And it would absolutely need to solidify a woman's right to choose prior to that.

 

Conservatives want to restrict access to birth control as well you know.

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...by taking care of all the extra children?

 

I think you'll find many liberals opposed to abortion or maybe many from all parties that really don't care. As an older, religiously agnostic, I'm in the latter, I don't care.

ACA (No REPUBLICAN voted FOR) has probably limited access for everyone, including women, as Hospitals/Clinics/Doctors refuse to treat ACA patients. Think there's only one Hospital left in NH that will take them. Exactly why do you think any person should be forced to pay for things they don't agree with or cannot possibly use?

Yes, people make mistakes, but some people feel when that mistake takes a potential person, it should be considered before some act.

We have an all voluntary military...they chose to fight for your rights and to preserve this country. At least women could listen to the ways and means to prevent pregnancy.

 

Ahh, gee, I wonder which way women are going to swing in '16. 20 weeks may not be an altogether bad idea, but it sure seems the Reps are determined to alienate people who look a little different than they do.

 

Think you have this backwards; Republican's want total access to BC, to prevent pregnancy...but draw the line at taking a life, for mistakes that future person wasn't responsible. Democrat's want that life snuffed out for any reason deemed necessary by the irresponsible person who made a mistake.

 

Most pro-lifers are. Their goal is to ban elective abortion. Banning it at 20 weeks is only an incremental step to their goal.

BUT, in most western European countries, abortion is free and widely available.

 

Noooo.....

I think you're confused. Just look at the ACA for example.

 

I doubt there are many liberals who believe in taking away a woman's right to her own body.

And there MAY be "many" from that other party who don't care but their leaders think they do and that's why the onslaught of anti-women legislation.

I won't argue the ACA since the people I know who enrolled have had great success with lower premiums.

Yes, people make mistakes and can eliminate a major one by removing a fetus which is not a person.

So what if our military is all volunteer....IF Repubs were sooooooooo interested in saving lives they would withdraw troops .... or is saving their own ass more important? Or is only fetuses they're interested in for some odd reason?

 

Republicans want total access to birth control by shutting down clinics? Clinics where 3% of their business is LEGAL abortion and the other 97% is BIRTH CONTROL, CANCER SCREENINGS and other HEALTH care issues for WOMEN???????

 

By restrict do you mean you pay for your own condoms? The humanity.

 

As best I can tell, "Planned Parenthood" is still as active as ever. I haven't been to a Drug Store lately, but as I recall a half an isle was devoted to preventing pregnancy. Cancer or other medical problems are covered in any State Hospital and take referrals from thousands of smaller clinics/hospitals or doctors on a daily basis. Screenings and other women's medical problems are also unconcerned with abortions are as common or more available than ever. I don't understand your problem...sorry.

 

I hope they make an exception for severely retarded fetuses.

It's definitely a baby at 20 weeks, though.

 

I'm not understanding something; ACA is a Democratic plan, for American Healthcare, and has special provisions which forces all people to pay for the few who need babied with preventative items. Republican only oppose having to pay extra to cover things they don't need or ever will. Kind of like paying an extra 1% of your pay, because you can't afford the health insurance, IRS insist you have.

Are you really interested in providing HC to tens of thousands of, say Canadian's/Mexican's, who could simply take a bus to a US Hospital, knowing their problems would be treated for free....Do you know in the US just short of 3T$ is already paid annually for HC, that's near 10K$ for every man, woman or child, most of which will not even see a doctor.

 

"as best YOU can tell"? When's the last time you were a woman looking for affordable health care? Republicans HAVE shut down clinics....why?

You denying it doesn't make it untrue.

 

You've done a survey? STOPP (American Life League’s Stop Planned Parenthood International) has, and reports:

"SUMMARY: Eighth straight year of decline in both total facilities and affiliates"
http://www.stopp.org/pdfs/2013/STOPP_Facilities2013.pdf

Those are the less effective methods, and what good are condoms if a girl/woman can't afford to buy them or the boy/man refuses to use them?

Here's the problem, as it's happening in Texas:

 

Best statement yet.

 

but you laugh when people say more gun restrictions will lead to gun confiscation so don't hand us that bull crap

 

Why? Don't disabled fetuses have a right to life, too?

 

Abortion Poll Finds Support For 20-Week Ban
By a margin of 59 percent to 30 percent, respondents to the new poll said they would favor a federal law banning abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/11/abortion-poll_n_3575551.html

Poll: Majority of Americans support 20-week abortion ban
56 percent of Americans would prefer to impose restrictions after only 20 weeks, according to a new Washington Post/ABC News poll. Only 27 percent of respondents prefer the current 24-week threshold.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-majority-of-americans-support-20-week-abortion-ban/

Guess who likes the GOP’s 20-week abortion ban? Women.
A new Quinnipiac poll shows 60 percent of women prefer allowing unrestricted abortions for only the first 20 weeks of pregnancy rather than the Supreme Court-prescribed 24 weeks
A Washington Post-ABC News poll showed the gap at seven points, while two other polls (from NBC/Wall Street Journal and National Journal) showed it at six and four, respectively
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ho-likes-the-gops-20-week-abortion-ban-women/

so once again republicans are trying to pass a bill that the vast majority of the public supports and once again liberals call them extremist for trying to do so
so is the vast majority of the public extremist?