It's A Conspiracy I tell ya & Corona Virus, and future such events

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  1. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Really? This guy sees a spike in deaths "after vaccination rollout" - and puts 2 and 2 together to make 11. The spike in deaths is caused by lockdown ending and mass gatherings restarting! The majority of deaths are from unvaccinated people.

    Deaths involving COVID-19 by vaccination status, England - Office for National Statistics
    • In England, between 2 January and 2 July 2021, there were 51,281 deaths involving coronavirus (COVID-19); 640 occurred in people who were fully vaccinated, which includes people who had been infected before they were vaccinated.

    • The risk of death involving COVID-19 was consistently lower for people who had received two vaccinations compared to one or no vaccination, as shown by the weekly age-standardised mortality rates (ASMRs) for deaths involving COVID-19.
     
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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Bullshit

    Spammed a dozen times and answered. That is a pathetic conspiracy claim used as a colossal and irrelevant generalization.

    Moronic. So now the mainstream court are accurate? Do you have the details of the actual court claim and verdict? It's in Portugese so we only have the word of a known batshit website!

    The way viruses work is exactly consistent with how deaths can be attributed to them. I don't care whether the stats are 100% correct. It's a nasty deadly virus and anyone who says it isn't is a complete jackass!
     
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    Yes it was. No amount of reasoning will sway somebody who is totally locked into the world of batshit. The idea that you take this idiotic study then use it as a complete generalization to label all mainstream science as fraudulent is off the scale moronic.

    So why the hell are you posting complete crap about a claim suggesting that not many are dying from it!

    Batshit addressed in every instance ( needless to say ignored as always!). No it isn't, no more so than any other needle infusion. Some people just don't tolerate them in extremely small numbers.
     
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    You're such a good debater. You just debunked all the arguments made in those videos. You should join a debating team.
     
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    Not true, you are repeating what batshit antivax people say.

    I love the way you quote stuff that you don't understand. You have been given appropriate data showing the problems with all the small non-in-depth trials and how they all call out to do a concise and intense trial.
     
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    dupe
     
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    He isn't mainstream and you cowardly refused to even watch it.

    I love the way you quote stuff that you don't understand. You have been given appropriate data showing the problems with all the small non-in-depth trials and how they all call out to do a concise and intense trial.

    Watch this video if you want simple things explained to you:

    The rise and fall of (you know what) - YouTube



    "SOURCES: To follow the links, make sure you put the full name of the drugs where I have abbreviated them:
    Observational study cited on Fox News: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.11...
    "Treatment with HCQ alone and in combination with azithromycin was associated with reduction in COVID-19 associated mortality."
    "No benefit on viral clearance but a significant increase in mortality “HCQ in patients with COVID-19: A Systematic Review and meta-analysis.” Singh et al May 2020 Review on HCQ as a prophylaxis:
    "Prophylaxis for COVID-19: a systematic review," Smit at al 2021 Editorial in the Journal of the American Medical Association:
    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama...
    Retracted pre-print: “Efficacy and Safety of Ivermectin for Treatment and prophylaxis of COVID-19 Pandemic”
    See also: https://gidmk.medium.com/is-ivermectin FDA advisory on HCQ: https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety...
    See also: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexleds
    https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/resources"
     
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    I miss the good old days when COVID was all caused by 5G and conspiracy theorists provided all manner of 'proof' to this effect. Love how the people claiming that just completely stopped talking about it. No acknowledgement that they were wrong or pushing BS, just move on the the next conspiracy theory.
     
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    There are too many stupid covid-19 threads, they should all be put in a sub forum called the cess-pit or amalgamated. I just cannot understand how these people are allowed to post when they aren't actually debating or even discussing.

    Seems like an agenda to me.
     
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    You're not swayed by this info on vaccine-related injuries and deaths.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...re-such-events.569790/page-11#post-1072956929

    That pretty much discredits you and all of the viewers can see that. You're not a serious poster here. I just get tired of talking to a Black Knight.
     
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    Why should I be swayed by batshit? You aren't swayed by anything BUT batshit.

    Yet again the spam closure:

    This blog details how appalling you are!

    "9. Idiotic Closes: "You'd get laughed out of the debating hall ..."
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    "you're about as impressive as the Black Knight in this video"
    The sheer irony of this is always lost on him. If ever there was somebody who behaved like the Black Knight - as his arm gets chopped off it's a "moot point" it would be this serial forum spammer. There is not a debating environment on this planet where this person would show up to. He knows more than anyone that he would get the floor wiped with his drivel."

    Yes I am. You are the least credible, most ignorant and the very last person qualified to make any judgement on anyone!
     
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    How the hell would you know! She is a complete clown selling a whole host of alternative junk to the foolish.
     
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    No they don't, they have a lot of batshit.

    No, you have to not click on the link and enter the crazy world of spammed batshit. Not a single commentary on any of them, not a single indicator of any scientific method or verification.

    See batshit, post batshit.

    For you, that is a quantum leap in your inept "research skills". Now you can avoid anyone knowing you are searching for batshit in an internet cafe!
     
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    This doctor was being careful of what he said while explaining to reduce the possibility that the video would get deleted.

    Dr. Nathan Thompson Performs Blood And Immune System Test Before And After COVID Vaccination, The Alarming Results
    https://covid19reporter.com/dr-nath...after-covid-vaccination-the-alarming-results/

    Here's another link to the same video with a comment section.
    https://www.banned.video/watch?id=615ce5b9eb8423302e4f0d87

    It got deleted from this page – I think it was YouTube – so watch if fast.
    https://granitegrok.com/blog/2021/1...-adaptive-immune-system-has-absolutely-tanked


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    Correction on post #283...

    The icon is on the lower right.
     
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    What a crock. The paranoid garbage of this guy! What mechanism have you used to determine this? You don't understand a damn thing so how is this apparent to you!

    Dr. Nathan Thompson Performs Bullshit for the clueless and gullible!


    Why? Wasn't one batshit version enough?

    Priceless. The one thing you bothered to mention was wrong anyway.
     
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    His last warning? Well, we will all be grateful when he shuts the hell up then! He already told everyone that the pandemic was ending soon and since then, millions of deaths! His utterances are to be ignored.

    Did Michael Yeadon Say COVID-19 Vaccine Will Kill Recipients Within 2 Years? | Snopes.com
    "Fringe website and individuals who contest the safety and efficacy of available vaccines in one form or another inaccurately report Yeadon’s former title as “vice president and chief science officer for Pfizer,” one of three pharmaceutic companies whose COVID-19 vaccines have been approved in the U.S. under emergency use authorizations. But this title is inaccurate. As Snopes has previously reported, Yeadon worked in a drug discovery research unit at Pfizer that worked on allergy and respiratory medical research. The division he ran had nothing to do with vaccines or infectious disease and, at the time of its closure in 2011, was focused on developing compounds that targeted asthma and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease."
     
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    This guy gives us the names of the people who allegedly are the planners of this whole scam.

    Dr. David Martin: Who “They” Are, “The Names and Faces”
    https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2021/11/20/dr-david-martin-who-they-are-the-names-and-faces

    I'll post the list of people in case this goes offline.
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    Mukesh D. Ambani, Chairman, Reliance Industries
    · Peter Brabeck-Letmathe, Vice-Chairman of the Board of Trustees WEF
    · Mark Carney, UN Special Envoy for Climate Action
    · Chrystia Freeland, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, Canada
    · Kristalina Georgieva, Managing Director of the IMF
    · Queen Rania of Jordan
    · David M. Rubenstein, Co-Founder and Executive Chairman, Carlyle Group
    · Klaus Schwab, Founder and Executive Chairman, WEF
    · Marc Benioff, Chair and Chief Executive Officer, Salesforce
    · Thomas Buberl, CEO, AXA
    · Laurence Fink, Chairman & CEO, BlackRock
    · Orit Gadiesh, Chairman, Bain & Company
    · Fabiola Gianotti, Director General, CERN
    · L. Rafael Reif, President of MIT
    · Mark Schneider, CEO, Nestlé
    · Tharman Shanmugaratnam, Defense Minister, Singapore
    · Robert Mercer, Renaissance Fund
    · Larry Page, Google
    · Al Gore, Environmentalist
    · Angel Gurría, Secretary General OECD
    · Paula Ingabire, Minister of Information Communication Technology, Rwanda
    · Yo-Yo Ma, Cellist
    · Luis Alberto Moreno, WEF
    · Jim Hagemann Snabe, Chairman of Siemens and of Maersk
    · Feike Sijbesma, Philco
    · Zhu Min, Deputy Managing Director, IMF
    · Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook/Meta
    · Bill Gates, Microsoft
    · Herman Gref, CEO, Sberbank
    · André Hoffmann, Vice-Chairman Hoffman-La Roche
    · Christine Lagarde, President, European Central Bank
    · Peter Maurer, President, Red Cross
    · Patrice Motsepe, Chairman, African Rainbow Minerals
    · Julie Sweet, CEO, Accenture
    · Heizo Takenaka, Economist
    · Dustin Moskovitz, Open Philanthropy
     
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    What scientific methodology has he used in terms of evidence? Or has he used the standard conspiracy-clown method and pulled them from his butt?
     
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    Why? Statistically how significant is it and how many have direct causation/correlation? Oh, you didn't check at all did you!

    The difference is that antivaxxers have no idea what they are reading. You are a noise making menace. Did you have a vacation, it went pleasantly quiet!
     
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    No he doesn't. What did you do to verify his "explanations"? Zero. You just post a batshit video with no summary or how you became suckered by it.

    Why? To see somebody talking about how good or bad masks are? They are one layer of protection with variable efficacy according to how they are used and how the user disposes of them.

    A martyr to batshit, so what! See batshit, post batshit.
     
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    You are not even qualified as a layman because whilst you have no specialized knowledge, you insist on refusing to listen to anything that contradicts an ignorantly acquired position!

    Heart disease that applies to genetic/hereditary incidences can occur with anyone! There is no exclusive restriction for sports people.Your pathetic source uses incidences from all over the world, checks NONE of them for previous history, checks NONE of them for vaccine status, makes no comparison with previous years and suckers you in like a magnet!

    READ THIS:
    Sudden Cardiac Arrest during Participation in Competitive Sports | NEJM


    As for your stupid link: Have you even checked a single one? I just had a quick scan:
    "04/11/21 Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina Dead
    1. Amela Fetahović (35), Female Bosnian footballer (Sarajevo, Spartak Subotica, national team). Died in a car accident (did she have a cardiac arrest while driving?) News Story"
      • 06/12/21 UK Dead
        Marvin Morgan (38), former Aldershot Town, Shrewsbury Town, Plymouth Argyle and Hartlepool United player and fashion brand designer. In 2018, he was diagnosed with a cavernoma, a cluster of abnormal blood vessels usually in the brain or spinal cord, that cause seizures, strokes and possibly premature death. Vax status unknown. Died while on business travel in Europe. News Story
      • 07/12/21 USA Dead
        Glenn Foster (31), former New Orleans Saints defensive lineman died on in Alabama after a high speed police chase and crash into a tree. He was bipolar. An autopsy is expected. News Story
    What are the odds this spammer completely ignores this response!
     
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    Ignorance must be very blissful for you.

    https://www.vox.com/22537118/covid-19-variants-alpha-beta-delta-ga

    "Like any virus, SARS-CoV-2 has been mutating constantly since the beginning of the pandemic. Until November 2020, though, that didn’t seem to matter. That’s when scientists in the United Kingdom noticed an alarming change: The virus had mutated in a way that made it more transmissible. Within a month, similar reports were emerging from places around the world. Suddenly, it seemed the virus was changing at an alarming rate.

    SARS-CoV-2 hasn’t actually been mutating faster, though. Instead, by letting it spread around the world, we’ve just given it more and more opportunities to mutate as it replicates. The result is that after countless random mutations, there are signs that the virus is beginning to adapt to our natural defenses. And because it’s completely normal for a virus to change over time, we shouldn’t expect it to stop. The only real way to stop those changes is to stop giving the virus so many opportunities."
     
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    Wow, a case of myocarditis which is miniscule odds and she wants exemption for second vaccine. Batshit.

    See batshit, post batshit. Ignore where batshit is shown to be batshit.

    What are the odds? Very high!
     
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