It's A Conspiracy I tell ya & Corona Virus, and future such events

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  1. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    There you go again with your utterly pathetic belief in batshit. The damn "covid" blog? Really? That's your "source" for "the full article"? EVERY single copy of that bullshit comes from the "covid blog". Hmmm, that sounds like it's going to be legitimate news huh?

    1. The vaccine isn't experimental!
    2. His disorder was July.
    3. His vaccine was August.
    4. It's fake-news and once again you are afraid to admit your colossal screw up in believing unverified crap!

    Find a corroborating source! You won't because this lying blog is targeting gullible clowns. It found one.
     
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    Do you think they are accurately reported in a way that reflects the percentage and severity of adverse reactions? Do you have any evidence to show correlation and causation?

    If I want to read about any of these accurately I would go to their source not some batshit blog that cherry picks, lies and embellishes.
     
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    Why don't you ever damn well summarize why with even a scant hint of any scientific methodology! Go watch it all, then take notes, verify each point, question each claim and then post it - or better still go and get a hobby that isn't steeped in batshit.
     
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    Damn well itemize it instead of stuffing up your crap links!
    Show correlation and causation, show any scientific methodology used in any process. Show any verification, field testing, statistics that are accurate and provably so.

    You've shown none of that!
     
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    The connection between getting the vaccine and the bad things that happen afterwards looks pretty clear to me. Don't you think it's happening often enough to rule out coincidences? You seem to be using this to avoid addressing the issue.

    Assuming that the truth is being told, those are some pretty heavy stories. Doesn't that make you a little suspicious?
     
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    It "looks pretty clear" is not a very scientific rationale at the best of times. Coming from you it is almost a reason to dismiss! You show no effort to verify any claim, or any story or make any effort to use proper numbers and percentages.

    Show correlation and causation, show any scientific methodology used in any process. Show any verification, field testing, statistics that are accurate and provably so. You've shown none of that!

    Bullshit!! I have asked you repeatedly to show any correlation and causation! What percentage of people get reactions to ANY needle entering muscle? What percentage show reaction to any liquid entering muscle? What percentage show this supposed reaction occurring at any given time anyway?

    All you are doing is showing instances where something supposedly happens, blaming the vaccine because it supposedly occurred recently. No scientific rationale whatsoever.

    The most pathetic thing about all covid-19 noise makers is they dismiss the methodology of recording and attributing deaths to the disease and use the same damn methodology to insist the vaccine is causing massively exaggerated levels of reaction!

    Why do you assume that?

    Why should it? The numbers even quoted by noise makers are still very low and there is no reason to assume that even those who actually DO have a reaction would not have had a far worse one with the actual disease!
     
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    How the hell would you know who makes sense?

    Regarding Ivermectin. Show anywhere from any of these clowns, dosage trials or protocols, side-effect control and recording, how the use of this non-purpoise drug was considered in the first place?

    So basically, somebody gets ill with a virus and a doctor who has given an oath to do no harm decides, without any precedent, field trials, evidence of any sort, to start experimenting on live subjects with a drug that was never even close to being designed for that purpose?

    AFTER all the noise, mainstream science went and did the actual legwork to determine all the above!

    Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines (nih.gov)

    However the drug is NOT being suppressed. As effective as it can be, the dosage needed for this to BE effective is at a level where the drug is deemed to be toxic. The internet clown doctors who used this in volume breached their oaths and should be struck off!

    READ IT!
    Serious Neurological Adverse Events after Ivermectin—Do They Occur beyond the Indication of Onchocerciasis? (nih.gov)

    READ IT!
    Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19 | FDA
     
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    Notice the evasion of a large post. No debate from this joker!

    The sheer irony in the bullshit link - yet again. If ever a human being showed classic Dunning Kruger, delusion, colossal ignorance of reality - this is the person!

    How the hell would you know who makes sense?

    Regarding Ivermectin. Show anywhere from any of these clowns, dosage trials or protocols, side-effect control and recording, how the use of this non-purpoise drug was considered in the first place?

    So basically, somebody gets ill with a virus and a doctor who has given an oath to do no harm decides, without any precedent, field trials, evidence of any sort, to start experimenting on live subjects with a drug that was never even close to being designed for that purpose?

    AFTER all the noise, mainstream science went and did the actual legwork to determine all the above!

    Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines (nih.gov)

    However the drug is NOT being suppressed. As effective as it can be, the dosage needed for this to BE effective is at a level where the drug is deemed to be toxic. The internet clown doctors who used this in volume breached their oaths and should be struck off!


    READ IT!
    Serious Neurological Adverse Events after Ivermectin—Do They Occur beyond the Indication of Onchocerciasis? (nih.gov)

    READ IT!
    Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19 | FDA
     
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    Yet again the serial forum spammer dumps a stupid link/video up and makes no attempt to explain it, verify it, cross reference it or indeed do anything that would suggest at least lip-service to "the scientific method" he spouts on and on about!

    Debate evasion once again - respond like a truth seeker. Surely you aren't going to ignore evidence?

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    Regarding Ivermectin. Show anywhere from any of these clowns, dosage trials or protocols, side-effect control and recording, how the use of this non-purpose drug was considered in the first place?

    So basically, somebody gets ill with a virus and a doctor who has given an oath to do no harm decides, without any precedent, field trials, evidence of any sort, to start experimenting on live subjects with a drug that was never even close to being designed for that purpose?

    AFTER all the noise, mainstream science went and did the actual legwork to determine all the above!

    Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines (nih.gov)

    However the drug is NOT being suppressed. As effective as it can be, the dosage needed for this to BE effective is at a level where the drug is deemed to be toxic. The internet clown doctors who used this in volume breached their oaths and should be struck off!


    READ IT!
    Serious Neurological Adverse Events after Ivermectin—Do They Occur beyond the Indication of Onchocerciasis? (nih.gov)

    READ IT!
    Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19 | FDA
     
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    Exploring the binding efficacy of ivermectin against the key proteins of SARS-CoV-2 pathogenesis: an in silico approach
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7996102/
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    Abstract
    Aim: COVID-19 is currently the biggest threat to mankind. Recently, ivermectin (a US FDA-approved antiparasitic drug) has been explored as an anti-SARS-CoV-2 agent. Herein, we have studied the possible mechanism of action of ivermectin using in silico approaches. Materials & methods: Interaction of ivermectin against the key proteins involved in SARS-CoV-2 pathogenesis were investigated through molecular docking and molecular dynamic simulation. Results: Ivermectin was found as a blocker of viral replicase, protease and human TMPRSS2, which could be the biophysical basis behind its antiviral efficiency. The antiviral action and ADMET profile of ivermectin was on par with the currently used anticorona drugs such as hydroxychloroquine and remdesivir. Conclusion: Our study enlightens the candidature of ivermectin as an effective drug for treating COVID-19.
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    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.06.21259924v1
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    Abstract
    Ivermectin is a safe, inexpensive and effective early COVID-19 treatment validated in 20+ RCTs. Having developed combination therapies for Helicobacter pylori, we tested various COVID-19 combinations and describe the most effective. In 24 consecutive COVID-19 subjects with high risk features, hypoxia and untreated moderate-severe symptoms averaging 9 days, we trialed this novel combination comprising ivermectin, doxycycline, zinc, and Vitamins D and C. It was highly effective. All subjects resolved symptoms in 11 days on average, and oxygen saturation improved in 24hrs (87.4% to 93.1%, p=0.001). Hospitalizations and deaths were significantly fewer (p<0.002 or 0.05, respectively) than in background-matched controls from the CDC database. Triple combination therapy is safe and effective even in moderate-severe patients with hypoxia treated in the outpatient setting.
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    As previously noted, it's effectiveness is some cases is not in dispute and the combination with other drugs also not in dispute. What IS in dispute is the volume needed and the subsequent side-effects. This study of 24 patients (a very small study indeed) notes they all got better after 11 days (!) then simply compares them to untreated patients. It has no internal placebo for the cocktail given without ivermectin. This is the kind of short snap study that does more harm than good.

    Misleading clinical evidence and systematic reviews on ivermectin for COVID-19 | BMJ Evidence-Based Medicine

    Tell the viewers why you believe the mainstream "trial" that has no internal control group and is tiny, whilst you disbelieve all the other mainstream trials and conclusions that identify real problems!

    This below is the kind of disgraceful result YOU are causing with your total ignorance and spam!

    READ IT!
    HAN Archive - 00449 | Health Alert Network (HAN) (cdc.gov)
    "In 2021, poison control centers across the U.S. received a three-fold increase in the number of calls for human exposures to ivermectin in January 2021 compared to the pre-pandemic baseline.
    In July 2021, ivermectin calls have continued to sharply increase, to a five-fold increase from baseline. These reports are also associated with increased frequency of adverse effects and emergency department/hospital visits.

    In some cases, people have ingested ivermectin-containing products purchased without a prescription, including topical formulations and veterinary products. Veterinary formulations intended for use in large animals such as horses, sheep, and cattle (e.g., “sheep drench,” injection formulations, and “pour-on” products for cattle) can be highly concentrated and result in overdoses when used by humans. Animal products may also contain inactive ingredients that have not been evaluated for use in humans. People who take inappropriately high doses of ivermectin above FDA-recommended dosing may experience toxic effects."
     
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    Good grief. If people know that ivermectin works and they only have access to animal-formulated ivermectin, some of them will be desperate enough to take a chance. The solution is to give everybody access to human-formulated ivermectin. The people blocking access to human-formulated ivermectin are causing the problem.

    No study from the mainstream should be taken as fact. It should be assumed to be a lie until it's been proven true. The government can have big companies do bogus studies for damage-control when there's a big scandal. The RAND corporation did a bogus study on depleted uranium to take in the public a while back.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/are-conspiracy-theorists-ever-right.586948/
     
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    MEH!

    SOME of them. Read it properly! Many are simply using the drug itself in some sort of blind way to "protect themselves".

    No. Some will be gullibly influenced by the clowns on the internet and misuse a drug not fit for purpose.

    READ IT PROPERLY! "In some cases" - no wonder you have trouble assessing anything. Your brain just skips whole passages and comes out with garbage.

    And again. It isn't being blocked! There is something badly wrong with your comprehension.

    Batshit alert. No study is ever taken as fact. It is peer reviewed then repeated with variations designed to break it. You are completely clueless.

    Batshit. It should be assumed to be questionable until the questions have been answered properly - as with all science.

    Batshit spam.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-theorists-ever-right.586948/#post-1072568659

    Whistleblowers, governments and lies. (debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com)

    Tell the viewers why you, a public nuisance to the "elite", have not been "silenced" or "got at". You won't.
     
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    If people could buy ivermectin over the counter like they do in some African countries, they would have small pills or capsules and instructions on how much to take. If it were prescribed by a doctor, the doctor would tell the patient what the dosage was. If a layman has a pill for horses the size of a cookie and has no idea what the human dosage is, stuff like this is going to happen.
    There you go assuming the establishment is going to be honest in a scandal.
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-lies-furiously.583345/page-2#post-1072652969
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...-lies-furiously.583345/page-2#post-1072771889

    The peers doing the reviewing can be just as corrupt as journalists and big companies. You have a naive willingness to believe when you read mainstream stuff and an a priori incredulity when you read alternative stuff.
     
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    Quite astonishing. Yet again your completely clueless "assessment" makes ridiculous statements.

    READ IT PROPERLY!

    "A recent study examining trends in ivermectin dispensing from outpatient retail pharmacies in the United States during the COVID-19 pandemic showed an increase from an average of 3,600 prescriptions per week at the pre-pandemic baseline (March 16, 2019–March 13, 2020) to a peak of 39,000 prescriptions in the week ending on January 8, 2021.1 Since early July 2021, outpatient ivermectin dispensing has again begun to rapidly increase, reaching more than 88,000 prescriptions in the week ending August 13, 2021. This represents a 24-fold increase from the pre-pandemic baseline. "

    Only with idiots. The kind of people influenced by you.

    MEH! There you go making your moronic spam references. Using an idiotic, unproven claim to make a non-sequitur sweeping generalization!

    Batshit - you haven't even come close to proving any of this. Corruption in those fields no matter how limited or rife does not equate to science in general.

    Cut and pasta spam comment. You are the epitome of that very rationale, only in your case you can add profound gullibility, ignorance and apply it not to mainstream but exclusively to batshit.

    HAN Archive - 00449 | Health Alert Network (HAN) (cdc.gov)
    "Clinical trials and observational studies to evaluate the use of ivermectin to prevent and treat COVID-19 in humans have yielded insufficient evidence for the NIH COVID-19 Treatment Guidelines Panel to recommend its use. Data from adequately sized, well-designed, and well-conducted clinical trials are needed to provide more specific, evidence-based guidance on the role of ivermectin in the treatment of COVID-19."

    CAN YOU READ!
     
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    Listen to this guy! You dismiss it regardless and automatically assume EVERY piece of batshit is the truth! Then you post a link to an idiotic Catholic bishop - disowned by his own church?

    Regardless of any of this, you did not even damn well read it, because your follow up claims were just plain dumb.

    This is not mainstream and you're just assuming it's not bogus! You are offering the opinions of a select few fringe doctors who have failed to document a single thing!

    Who says it's "mainstream"? This woman feeds people "colloidal silver" amongst other things.

    FACTSHEET: Zimbabwe and ivermectin use for COVID-19 - ZimFact

    Meh! Only a gullible and very ignorant conspiracy theorist would consistently ignore every piece of conflicting evidence to their uneducated and poorly formed batshit claims!
     
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    Relentless and every time without fail, useless.

    Not once do we get a summary, any attempt to verify a single thing, any attempt to better explain it - if it's batshit it's posted - regardless!

    Did Dr. Roger Hodkinson Call COVID-19 a Hoax? | Snopes.com
    What's True
    A man who identified himself as Dr. Roger Hodkinson, the CEO of a biotech company selling COVID-19 tests, said (erroneously) that COVID-19 was no worse than the flu during a public comment period of a city council meeting in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.

    What's False
    Dr. Hodkinson is not the Chairman of the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada, and his public comments do not align with the consensus of the medical community.
     
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    Nope. Tim Truth has a whole page of batshit and you aren't qualified to understand any of it. Needless to say you have spent no time at all verifying it / disproving it.

    You have the audacity to mention debate halls then run away from debate.
     
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    Says who? From a site that debunks fools.

    Spam response. When somebody like you labels absolutely anyone as naive, it is the height of absurdity. You have a "priori ignorance" on everything. You dismiss every single piece of data regardless, if it contradicts your idiotic, gullibly pre-formulated batshit.
     
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    You people are a complete disgrace! You are wilfully and ignorantly spreading fake-news that has serious consequences for those scared enough to believe your utter crap!

    Did a nurse develop Bell's Palsy after getting the COVID-19 vaccine? (statesman.com)
    "As of Dec. 29, nearly 80,000 people in Tennessee had been vaccinated for the coronavirus. A nurse named Khalilah Mitchell is not one of them.

    "We have no record of anyone by that name in our health professional licensure system," said Shelley Walker, director of the Office of Communication and Media Relations at the Tennessee Department of Health. Fact-checking website Lead Stories checked online databases in 49 other states and the District of Columbia. It did not find any registered nurses named Khalilah Mitchell. We found one Facebook profile for someone named Khalila Mitchell in Nashville, and it said she works at a bakery and Ralph Lauren. We could not find any credible news reports of nurses developing Bell’s Palsy after receiving the vaccine."

    Too much coffee again? Ridiculous!

    Fact check: 'No record' of nurse claiming she got Bell's Palsy from COVID vaccine :: WRAL.com



     
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    Why do you think that mainstream* article proves she's still alive? My position is that I'm not one hundred percent sure but I'd bet she's still alive. Why hasn't she made an appearance to clear things up? It's going to take more than an article from the mainstream to prove she's still alive.


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    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...at-the-lies-furiously.583345/#post-1072353798
     
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    And right there is the most ridiculous tail between your legs batshit response.

    Instead of withdrawing this fake news this joker imposes a condition on her being alive for her to make a bloody appearance!

    Well suppose she has had enough of idiots putting her in the public gaze! It would take more than mainstream to convince you she was alive, but in the meantime you are ok with batshit fake-news links saying she is dead!

    Pathetic.
     

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