It's amazing the lengths women will go who WANT to have a baby

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are legal rights, and then there are moral rights.

    You do not seem to believe that moral rights exist.

    I would argue that the woman does not have the moral right to do that, regardless of whether or not we agree she should have the legal right.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    YES a HUGE difference...in an infant's death there is an INFANT....a BORN PERSON

    In abortion there isn't.



    :) Looks more like I stumped you once again with facts you can't dispute :)

    YOU brought up infants deaths in post 147 YOU

    STILL EVADED and unanswered:

    """"So you want every miscarriage investigated...causing more pain to women who had miscarriages so you can stand outside their homes and point a finger....and you don't find that odd??????"""""
     
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    ...and you can't do a thing about it :)


    YOUR morals aren't everyone's nor should they be (thankfully)...:)
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hope you get reincarnated as a fetus.

    A hundred times.
     
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  5. FoxHastings

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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    STUMPED YA AGAIN :roflol::roflol:
     
  6. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    or go on birth control or if that doesn't work get an abortion
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    we all will, more then 100 times

    the cycle of life and death is repeated over and over

    when you head into the light, that is the doorway to rebirth
     
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  8. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Buddhists believe if you get an abortion, you will then have to suffer through one in your subsequent life, only you'll be on the other side of things.

    Or it might not be an abortion, you might have to suffer through some other form of violence.
     
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    maybe, will be a short life and then you start the next one then

    a miscarriage is when someone goes into the light and then snaps back to their body... near-death experience
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Okay, then what do you think the karma for killing would be?

    No big deal? Yeah, somehow I don't think that's how karma would operate if it existed.
     
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    could be your killed in a future life, a racist could be the race they hate in the next life, karma is karma

    what is the karma for forcing a rape victim to have their rapists baby?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You act like that would overall be doing a bad thing.

    I think if you're genuinely trying to help someone, but in so doing you actually end up doing something bad, I don't think there's bad karma attached to that.
    We can't always know which women were actually raped. But we do know it's a very small percentage, maybe 1 or 2 percent, or less.

    In many cases these women will actually be thankful later. "I'm so glad I didn't get an abortion"

    Maybe we can start focusing on ways to help prevent women from suffering sexual assault.
    The Muslims have some ideas...
    (Don't go out after dark, don't go out without a male family member to protect you, dress modestly, cover up your body, no cocktail parties, etc)
     
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    seems horrible to me
     
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    I have very explicitly statrd it numerous times; abortion is a moral right.
     
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    Only in a misogynist's dreams :) :roflol::roflol:


    Not in real life...in real life women get abortions ...and nothing happens to them :)

    I know that really bothers you so it is delightful :)
     
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    OMGAWD.... The Misogynist's Rule Book....hilarious...

    HEY do ya REALLY like how some Muslim's stone to death women who have been raped??? They ALSO think women lie about being raped like you do...



    YOU: ""Maybe we can start focusing on ways to help prevent women from suffering sexual assault""


    How about we beat and jail for life MEN who commit sexual assault...
     
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    The moral is the rational choice that helps you advance your life. When a woman is unwillingly pregnant, abortion is the moral thing to choose.
     
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    Buddhism is, just like all other religions, based on irrational mysticism and superstition and has no relation to reality at all.

    What happens to a woman when she has an abortion is that she can live her life the way she wants to and pursue her own happiness.
     
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    I do not believe it's moral to force a rape victim to have their rapists baby
    I do not believe it's moral to force a child to have a baby
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Even if forcing one woman to do this saves the lives of 99 other babies who were not conceived out of rape?

    Like has been explained to you before, we just don't know if the woman was actually raped.

    And even if she was, she has various early options to be able to deal with that if she catches it early. Even if pro-lifers got their way, the majority of rape victims who got impregnated would still not have to have a baby. (Already discussed in other threads)
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's also true if a woman offs her husband to get the life insurance money.

    Your point?
     
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    Maybe MEN shouldn't go out after dark !

    Maybe MEN shouldn't go to cocktail parties!!!

    Maybe MEN should cover up their bodies and KEEP THEM COVERED!!

    Maybe MEN shouldn't go out after dark without a chaperone to babysit them !!!!!!!

    Then sexual assaults would go down !!!



    WHY DON'T YOU LIKE THOSE IDEAS ??????


    ...and why are you so far off topic????
     
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    Ritter said:
    What happens to a woman when she has an abortion is that she can live her life the way she wants to and pursue her own happiness


    One has nothing to do with the other...your point ???????
     
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    FreshAir said:
    I do not believe it's moral to force a rape victim to have their rapists baby



    What TF does that have to do with this statement:I do not believe it's moral to force a rape victim to have their rapists baby


    Misogynists think all women are liars.




    YES, it has been discussed MANY times in other threads where it was explained to you that women are HARMED in rape...they are beaten , shot, tortured, mutilated...it is TRAUMATIC ...the woman may even be in a coma...certainly not able to make decisions...


    Your ongoing claim that rape doesn't harm women is false, misogynistic, and , of course, ridiculous...
     
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    yep, forcing a rape victim to have their rapist baby is evil, Like has been explained to you before
     
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