It's high-time that we doubled the National Minimum-Wage in America!

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  1. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    HISTORICAL FACTS REGARDING "POWER-POLITICS"

    We've just gone through the worst recession since the Great One in the 1930s. Let's remember an historical fact. It was not Roosevelt's efforts that stopped the Great Depression but MASSIVE spending to win WW2.

    Let's also remember this historical fact: In 1980, upon entering office, Obama and a Dem Congress, passed the ARRA-bill that spent close to $830B just to spike a skyrocketing unemployment rate at 10% (See BLS infochart here.)

    With consummate stoopidity, in 2012 only 41% of American voters (see that here) who bothered to turnout at the mid-term elections gave the HofR over to the Replicants. Who promptly started peddling "Austerity Budgeting" whilst in a full-blown economic calamity called the Great Recession.

    With the purpose of unseating Obama in the upcoming 2012 PotUS elections, the Replicant HofR systematically refused any more Stimulus Spending. Why was that important? Because as a consequence what happened from 2010 to 2014 (four longgg years) to the Employment-to-population Ratio? This (from the BLS here):
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    No more jobs were created during that period of 4-years. How stoopid can a country get in terms of economic management? Very.

    What had happened was a typical "power-play" (in 2010 & 2011) by sinister political forces in Congress that wanted to defeat a sitting PotUS by maintaining high unemployment rates. Didn't work in 2012, did it?

    But did the Replicants care about employment of American families who ultimately paid the price for the Replicant's mendacious audacity in the HofR. Nope! (Why should they - in 2016, we the sheeple gave them Total Control of all three ultimate powers-of-governance (the Executive, the Legislature, and the Judiciary) in the nation.

    MY POINT

    Are the Replicants concerned about the Health-Welfare of lower-class American families today? Even by standards of ObamaCare, America's Health Care today does not cover the entire population. Does that bother the Replicants who control both chambers of Congress? Nope. They want to destroy ObamaCare on behalf of the Insurance Companies that essentially run-it.

    You the sheeple elected them. Now you live with 'em ...

    PS: And don't forget that, whilst sitting in Congress, the health-care (of your representatives) is subsidized 100% by Uncle Sam!!!
     
  2. Jimmy79

    Jimmy79 Banned

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    Better yet. Let's make it $100 an hour. That way everyone will be rich.
     
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    How many times you going to start a thread on this subject?



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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's one thing to say that people should get more money, but why place all that burden on the employer??

    The second thing is, why should one minimum wage worker who works 50 percent more hours get 50 percent more money than another worker? Why do they deserve more money for working more, when in reality a big portion of this increase involves money the government forced the employer to pay them?

    I don't know, the whole concept just does not seem like an entirely optimal solution when one considers the fundamental objectives of the idea.

    Where does that stimulus spending come from??
    Do you think money comes out of nowhere?
    Yes, the government has a giant vault of money they are just hoarding. (sarcasm, in case you couldn't tell)
     
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  5. Kode

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    That is class warfare you're dishing out there. Try this:
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is a fine example of progressive logic!
     
  7. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    It's a fine example of trolling.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is trolling whatever disagrees with leftist logic now? Perhaps that is some speech you'd like to censor.
     
  9. Kode

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    So you actually believe leftists want the MW raised to $100/hour. Go find me ANYTHING that seriously suggests that or anything close to it. Until then you're spewing right wing division and insanity.
     
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    $100 an hour is $200K a year. Hardly rich.
     
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    "Trolling" is used as a conversation stopper. Whenever they can't answer, they throw the word out. Kind of like throwing out the words racist, bigot, misogynist, homophobe, xenophobe, radical, fascist, etc.
    Simple brain dead, knee jerk responses substituted for lack of substance.
     
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    but we tax that income heavily, as if that is rich. So which is it, rich or not ?
     
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    if one random number is good, why not the next ?
     
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    You're the only one talking about random numbers.
     
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    We do?

    Federal - Married Filing Separately Tax Brackets
    Tax Bracket Tax Rate
    $0.00+ 10%
    $9,325.00+ 15%
    $37,950.00+ 25%
    $76,550.00+ 28%
    $116,675.00+ 33%
    $208,350.00+ 35%

    We don't. I'd agree if we were to go back to pre-Reagan tax brackets.
     
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    which number do you suggest ?
    one third just to the federal government is a ton.
     
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  17. Kode

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    Effective rate just under 30%. How is $140,000 a hardship?
     
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    60k to the fed is a ****ing ton, especially since $200k is not rich, as the poster indicated, and with which I agree
     
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    That is approximately what I make and yeah, I get hammered on taxes. But living here in Southern California it is hardly rich. That is why I give the perpetualy unemployed on this forum the business. I'm done with all of their crowing about entitlements, Obamacare, minimum wage and all.
     
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    I agree too. It's true that $200,000 is not a "rich income". But then it's not taxed at an effective rate of 50% or more either.
     
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    Well lucky us, the rats only take 30%, then hit us additionally with tons of indirect taxes, state income taxes, sales taxes, medicare taxes, social security taxes, property taxes, tolls, ..........

    The ****ing leechers.
     
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    A guy makes a couple hundred grand and the leechers want him taxed like he's a Rockefeller.
     
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    Taxes have been higher and times were better. Better income, more security, better benefits, and hope for a better life for the kids. The American Dream was alive.
     
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    How do you know who is "perpetualy(sic) unemployed"?
     
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    Hyperbole.
     

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