It's not your 'medicine' you just want to get high so be honest.

Pretty sure most folks who fall into that category would have no problem agreeing with you. They just feel the law is silly, so utilize this legal mechanism to circumvent it. Kind of like Bill Clinton saying he didn't have sex when congress pushed him about a blow job.

Ask an unfair question, get an unsatisfying answer. *shrug*



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Considering I've yet to see a coherent argument explaining why pot should remain illegal, it should be legalized. I challenge any and all to come up with a coherent argument that doesn't inevitably lead to the ridiculous position that everything should be illegal.

 

I'm not for keeping it illegal, seems counter productive at this point. But the reason I wish it was still possible to keep pot out of folks hands is the cost to our productivity as a nation. The mass consumption of this crap has a significantly damaging effect on our economy.

And yes, you could say the same of cartoon network. But you have to draw the line somewhere, adults can draw distinctions of degree. My vote would have been to draw it south of marijuana and north of World of Warcraft. *shrug*



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Thing is it depends on the strain too. Sativa strain increases motivation while Indica causes relaxation and drowsiness. Meanwhile there are prescription and over the counter drugs that cause similar or worse effects than either strain. Nothing wrong with World of Warcraft either.

 

"How can you kill that which has no life?" World of Warcraft is wonderful entertainment. But we really need to move our priorities from enjoying wonderful diversions to building more productive lives. It's time to grow up and put some of the toys back on the shelf.

Not saying we should outlaw booze, pot or WoW. I probably would not complain if we did.



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WoW is also a great way to simulate the properties of a free market economy without risk, which is true with most games with player made economies. Not saying we should all just smoke pot and play WoW and not lead productive lives, but there are benefits to entertainment as well.

 

You dont have to smoke pot to get high

 

My brother got his medical marijuana card last month. My Dr offered to give me one as soon as he is licensed .

 

I agree with you. The problem I see with that simulation is it tricks people into thinking economies in the real world are equally open to manipulation.

The guy who complains that gold is too hard to come by in WoW and that needs to be fixed, is the same guy complaining about how hard it is to earn a buck — and that also needs to be fixed.

That guy learned the wrong lesson from the DE simulation called Warcraft.



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I said addictive substances. Sex is not a substance. Also I define addiction as something that an average person would robb or burgel for to fund their addiction. If you are willing to committ felonies to further your use of a particular substance then you are an addict.
My doctor wants me to cut back on salt, sugar, chocolate and soda drinks. I can and have done that.
If sugar were to be out lawed, and thus create a black market in sugar at $50 a pound I and most people are not going to stick up liquor stores or gas stations to get money to buy sugar.

To refine the point:

1. Addictive substances would be things not normally necessary for life (this is how I exempt food from addictive substances)
2. That an average person, once a user, would be willing to rob and steal to get money to finance their addiction.

Our constitutional reiterated and guaranteed rights come from God, not society. I don't consider using (and thus promoting in our village) addictive substances a right given to us by God. I am willing to listen to other's arguments that use of addictive substances is a right granted by God and one of the "uninumerated" rights referrenced in the constitution.

Can I take it your are a libertarian?

 

I want to know why hemp is now or was ever made illegal . In fact I believe hemp is the reason pot is illegal. It was the original green revolution.

 

Thanks dude! Nice to come across someone on the Forum who is'nt just trying to be a dick. Have a great weekend!

 

True, you can also get there by self-asphyxiation.



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Pot stimulates some people, especially those who are artists or deep thinkers like scientists . Making hemp legal would be great for the economy and environment

 

That's true, if someone fails at the simulation they're likely to fail at real world application too. However, across a long enough period observing the simulation, one can easily pick out patterns. Thing is too, WoW accurately depicts what happens when such forces lead to easier access to resources. For example in the next expansion, the gold cap is being raised to 10Mil, from 1mil. Which leads to an increase in price metrics across the game. I noticed this when in Diablo 2, the currency was a widely duplicated item. It demonstrates in a volatile fashion what happens when such complainers get what they want.

 

No, it wouldn't. Discovering things that only seem valuable while you're high ... not that useful to those of us in the real world. Except maybe in literature. *shrug*

But enough folks are going to do it anyway that the pot laws are counter productive. So it's probably more effective to spend that money in other ways.



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Sex may not be a substance but it is most certainly addicting and in fact sex and drugs are very much linked

No one is going to rob a store to cop pot either.

So now your making up your own definitions.

If you dont have the right to ingest or grow what you like on your own property what rights do you have?

Genesis 1:29

Yes i am

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Do you know what hemp is ?

 

Some claim it's due to the paper and cotton industries. I'm not entirely sure of the credibility of that.

 

I have a neighbor who eats chocolate chip/marijuana cookies all day. (She can't figure out why she is fat.). It has been years since I have used it. I never really cared for it; but I tried one of her cookies a few weeks ago. I still don't like it, but my parakeets were sure more fun to watch after eating that cookie. Then I got paranoid. I won't be eating her cookies again any time soon.

 

Best comment I heard related to that was a developer responding to someone concerned about that inflation (both in gold and stats). He said "it's just a number." And he was right, kick it up a notch with the next release and you reset incentives and bases—you get our new deal.

Problem is mapping that to the real world. The number of Apples you need to pick, to pay for the chips you need to build, to produce the next iPhone... that's not as flexible a number. We can't snap a finger and make more apples, chips, or daily hours appear in the real world. Some of the lessons don't map directly.

But I agree with you, there are some valuable lessons being taught in these MMOG's. Whether they were intended or not. Just gotta remember, there is no Dungeon Master for the real world. Life ain't a simulation.

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Lol. For some reason, your post reminded me of this.

[video=youtube;qnoxKXkPqEE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnoxKXkPqEE[/video]

 

Yes.

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Oh definitely, there are arbitrary changes that can be made in a game that don't apply to the reality. I more would use it as a way to teach fundamental principles (supply demand, inflation, deflation, etc) that a lot of people appear to not understand.

 

So then why do you deny making it legal would be a boon to the economy and environment? You speak about getting stoned. Hemp cant get you high. The reason they made hemp illegal is pot is a member of the hemp family and hemp threatened the paper, chemical and oil companies for starts being its so superior to them. The uses for hemp are countless.

 

Teaching is acting on a subject to cause them to know something. I'd say Warcraft is a place you can learn many things, including some of those economics relationships. It's kind of a workshop more than a school.

But I recognize the value you are trying to describe. I agree it exists for people to pick up. If they choose to.




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