It's Over

Discussion in 'Immigration' started by TheResister, Oct 13, 2016.

  1. TheResister

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    After many a heated debate on the immigration forum, I don't post as much here as I should. But, as the next presidential cycle is about to end, it became important to spell out what the real issues are. This is about soul cleansing as well.

    In the upcoming election, if Trump stays in, he will be defeated 53 to 41 percent at best. The worse part is, Trump is running against the worst the Democrats have to offer. Adding insult to injury, Trump is going to lose on his signature issue: so – called “illegal immigration.” Now I hate to be an I told you so, but I told you so. And I want to set the record straight.

    Both sides have cursed me, threatened me, and I've been stalked, shot at and things done to me you would not believe over this issue. So, in cleansing my soul and washing my hands of this I can express what I think... since not one single swinging soul that criticized me ever had the moral courage to ask me what I think. I only provided the facts.

    On the first point, we live on a finite piece of the world's earth. Australia is a country about the same size of the United States, but we have more than TEN TIMES more people on that same land. So, as personal feeling, I don't understand why any American wants anyone else over here.

    With that said, things got complicated. We knew the real problems, but allowed snake oil salesmen to foist upon us that illegal v legal alien crap. Here we are in a state of war, though neither side will declare a war. The United States allows foreigners from enemy countries to come here and take jobs from Americans AND seats in colleges from Americans – all the while saying it's cool since those people came here “legally.” What a fricking crock!

    People pour into America and no “vetting” process negates the fact that you cannot trust foreign governments to tell you the truth about their citizenry. In addition, in Muslim countries, people who have engaged in family squabbles do not have a criminal record. In other countries using drugs does not get reported to the authorities. So, the “legal” variety of foreigner has an unfair advantage when it comes to getting a job in a nation that relies on background checks.

    The leadership for this recent anti- immigrant fight started with Jim Gilchrist. He was a racist and I told you so. That was proven. I warned people about Chris Simcox and he picked J.T. Ready as his top man. Simcox turned out to be a criminal; J.T. Ready would become a mass shooter, ending his own life in the end. Shawna Forde, the next in line for the leadership of the anti-immigrant lobby ended up getting convicted of murder. Sheriff Arpaio, has alleged racial profiling and anti – immigrant views have landed him in jail with a criminal contempt charge that could end his career. Donald Trump is giving the White House, the House of Representatives, the Senate AND the United States Supreme Court to the left.

    In short, the current crop of wannabes complaining about so – called “illegal” immigration gave away their country, accepted defeat at every level, and did not gain a single inch of ground. On the contrary, they helped build a government that, after Hitlery, will be impervious to defeat (at least in our lifetime) – barring the former anti-immigrant lobby reaching out to the constitutional patriots they stabbed in the back.

    The anti- immigrant lobby gave us the creation of the Dept. of Homeland (IN) Security, the so – called “Patriot Act,” National ID / REAL ID Act, and drones that put Americans under surveillance 24 / 7 / 365 under the pretext of saving us from so – called :”illegal” aliens. Meanwhile Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Omar Mateen, and the offspring of “legal” foreigners – Nidal Hasan... not to mention the 9 / 11 hijackers were all of that “legal” variety that got in because that vetting manure isn't worth a plug nickel.

    In short, the anti – immigrant lobby lost and most of them will not admit that their strategy failed. They will be too proud and too egotistical to seek out sound counsel and try to figure out what the history was of this AND how they could have avoided this humiliating defeat. It seems so empty on my part, having preceded those people and NOT losing when we had the opportunities. But, after a decade and a half, my only consolation is being able to say I told you so.

    The way I see it, if there are those who want to reverse course; if they want to save their culture and their nation, they will look toward those who have a proven record and provided them the answers and accurately predicted this day would arrive given the failed strategies of the current crop of “leaders” they have blindly followed.

    If they don't, the fight is over and I tried to keep that from happening.
     
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    Granny says, "Dat's right - is time to build a wall an' shut the door onna immigration...
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    Survey: Majority Wants To Cut Immigration by Half or More
    November 8, 2016 – A new survey conducted by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) shows that the majority of likely voters want the number of immigrants coming into the country cut by half or more.
     
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    Uncle Ferd says the money would be better spent to pay fer the wall...
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    Mexico earmarks $50 million to back migrants in US
    January 30, 2017 — Mexico's president said Monday his country will spend about $50 million to hire lawyers for migrants in the United States facing deportation.
     
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    There was no bigger surprise to me nor the media - nor the many pollsters out there that Donald Trump won. I was wrong. And now we start another chapter in our history.

    I still think that when the pendulum swings back the opposite direction, the right will pay a heavy price for their heavy handed tactics. Insofar as your wall is concerned, either people will cross borders or troops will.

    There has been no honest discourse on this subject and the anti-immigrant lobby only needs to be reminded that the true measure of a man is the way he treats those who can be of no use to him.
     

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