Ivanka Trump zinged for hawking diamond bracelet worn on 60 Minutes interview

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  1. Same Issues

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    Not sure what to think of this. The Presidential family much like the Royal family, especially the women involved; sell a lot of clothing and brands based on what they wear. Is it really wrong for her company to peddle what she and others in the family are wearing if it is her brand? Other-wise someone will be doing the same as the clothes they wear sell out and become popular very quickly, and other designers do peddle the fact that the Presidential or Royals are wearing this crap.

    Ivanka Trump zinged for hawking diamond bracelet worn on 60 Minutes interview
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ivanka-trump-label-promotes-bracelet-after-60-minutes-interview/
    President-elect Donald Trump’s daughter Ivanka has often attracted attention for being stylish -- and it’s a key part of promoting her fashion label.
    But now that her father is headed to the White House -- and Ivanka and her husband, Jared Kushner, are both members of Trump’s transition team -- questions are arising about whether it’s appropriate for her to using news interviews to promote her business.
    Trump, Ivanka and the rest of the family (except for 10-year-old Barron) appeared on 60 Minutes on Sunday, with Ivanka seated in the front row, wearing a $10,800 gold and diamond bracelet. On Monday, her company sent an email to fashion writers promoting the bracelet, mentioning 60 Minutes and showing a photo from the interview.

    Ivanka Trump’s company issued a statement to CBS News, saying a “well-intentioned employee” had sent out the email blast. The company said they are “still making adjustments” to the situation, and they are “discussing new policies and procedures.”
    This is not the first time Ivanka has received criticism for promoting her own brand. Less than 12 hours after introducing her father at the Republican National Convention in July, she sent a tweet about the dress she wore, a $138 dress from her own brand. It sold out within a day.
     
  2. Quantum Nerd

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    Good post. The new royal family already using the WH for personal gain. Who would have thought of it?

    And then she has the gall to sit in her golden chair and bloviate about income inequality during the 60 min interview.
     
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    I'm not sure that 60 minutes counts as a prestigious event that it was worn for. I think this sounds more like a quick catalog picture [with reference] to see the item.

    Are we trying to suggest that wearing it on 60 minutes somehow heightens it's value, monetary or otherwise? I highly doubt it...
     
  4. AmericanNationalist

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    Ivanka is not the President of the United States. Donald Trump is. And is it a conflict of interest that they so happened to catch her wearing one of her own items? So what should she do? Forgo her own businesses altogether?

    There's such a vindictiveness against the Trump's, that it will carry beyond Donald's term(or terms) in office.
     
  5. Quantum Nerd

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    You don't see a even a tiny bit of a problem there, maybe that Trump's decisions will be to benefit his companies (and kids) first and the country second?

    I am a state employee (University Professor). It is by law forbidden to me to accept gifts larger than $15. It is also unethical to engage in nepotism. Trump's kids running his campaign and getting to make decisions in the transition team is nepotism. That seems okay to you, yet, if I would have my kid in my class and give them better grades than would be deserved, or promote them to university positions, that would be unethical. And there are good reasons for such laws.

    Seems that there is one standard for Trump and another for everybody else (the little guy). But Trump is for the little guy .. Yeah right...
     
  6. AmericanNationalist

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    It is the vindictiveness with which the Trump's will have to deal with. Even the 10 year old kid. Not even in any schools is he going to be safe. If they knew Donald was going to run the kind of campaign that he did, and that the people would react the way they did, I would have been a Trump that said HELL NO.
     
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    Only from the losers and saddoes. As for the topic - anyone stupid enough to follow celebrity fashion deserves to get ripped off.
     
  8. AmericanNationalist

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    Okay, prove that the entire point of the interview was to promote Ivanka's catalog? You CAN'T. This is what I'm talking about, and the kind of treatment they're going to get, moving forward. Some of it is Trump's own bigotry coming back to bite him, but does that REALLY extend to his children? Really?
     
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    Get used to it.. Crass is the new standard.
     
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    You guys are are so predictable. You will defend these losers to your death no matter what insanity is coming.
    No surprise there.

    Nepotism and use of a political office for personal benefit is illegal everywhere and is only allowed in states rotting from the inside.

    For years people cried about corruption in politics and in particular about the Clintons. Again we see that words mean nothing anymore in the US... Only party affiliation.
    This is going to be a despicable display of nepotism and corruption. Embrace yourselves.
     
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    Using the interview for merchandise promotion and personal gain is just a preview of what is to come:

    1) Repeal the estate tax (guess who profits from this)?
    2) Have Jared Kuchner in his cabinet.
    3) Give Trump kids advisory roles.
    4 ) Giving them security clearance.

    This is all pure nepotism that is not even hidden. The way he is even peddling this in public without feeling funny about it tells all: It is not a problem for him. Yet, it is a huge problem for the public in terms of conflict of interest.

    Note that I predicted problems with COI in March:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...446364-trump-president-conflict-interest.html

    And it seems that I was 100% spot on.
     
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    They caught a snap picture of her wearing a FREAKING bracelet! :wall: Clinton peddles her influence, and it's a-okay. An accidental mishap and Ivanka's accused of nepotism. You know what, I'm just going to leave this thread. Idiocy has clearly ruled the day since Donald won.
     
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    And so is ripping off the American people. Given that the markup on that bracelet was around 900% or so it was probably only worth about $100 and change in actual gold and diamonds.
     
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    In that case, Ivanka shouldn't have ANY advertisements, or any financial gains since she's a Trump. Oh wait, you're not going to say that are you? She didn't blatantly advertise the bracelet on the interview. The camera caught the bracelet itself. This is some unbelievable BULLCRAP. It's as though all of the Trumps now are going to have an unfair target.
     
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    Its very much like my going to a dinner party at your house and selling Amway to your guests.. Its crass.... and that's what you get with the Trumps.
     
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    Suckers get ripped off the world over and it serves the stupidos right. It used to be 'There's one born every minute.' Now though, change the 'one' to 'ten' and it would be more accurate.
     
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    Except, she had NO idea that her company was going to blare out an advertisement that said "Hey, this is the same bracelet Ivanka wore on 60 minutes!".
    And furthermore, if we go on the idea that THIS is nepotism then so is any direct advertising of her catalogue moving forward.

    Is anyone going to make that 'common sense' statement? No? Then you're all crying BS. And the reason you're doing it, is you hate Donald Trump. Fine, so you hate him. But don't drag the kids into it. It's unbecoming of an already unbecoming political party.
     
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    Ironic!

    Her corporation means she is responsible for everything that it does, especially since it has her name on it and it is all about promoting her brand.

    She is now working the PUBLIC SECTOR as a member of the transition team and should have handed it off to a 3rd party so that she has zero control or influence over what ti does.

    But that never happened because the Trumps are a law unto themselves.

    Yes, it is nepotism when your own kids are running your transition team and will end up in your cabinet.
     
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    Accused of nepotism? He wants to give them security clearance? It's not even weeks ago that you complaining Clinton aids had access to confidential material.

    Trump expects to let them continue running the business and know all the state secrets. This is not the first time she sells her crap and you can bet this is going to be a business model for the Pathological Liar in Chief.

    You can expect all your relations to be at zero as no ordinary politician around the world can risk job, popularity and even jail for these guys.

    Can someone explain whether this is actually legal? I was hearing that this wasn't done by anyone but that it isn't actually illegal?
     
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    Her appearance anywhere, much like past First Ladies, and Royals all heighten the value of their dress and jewellery. Not trying to bash to much, as I dont understand where to draw the line in COI in this specific matter. But I think its worth discussion since it will be brought up more and more in the future; without a doubt.

    Her company issued some sort of refute or apology, so I guess there is a standard they are supposed to follow. But if it looks good and she wants to wear it........ Not sure people should have a say as its her decision. Being like a model, Ivanka is going to inflate the prices of anything she wears, should it only be from outside designers?
     
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    The kids are dragging themselves into it. Or haven't you seen them on the campaign trail and running his campaign? And now they'll run his companies which SHOULD be in a blind trust.

    Plus the issue is not that the can make profit or not while their dad is president. They clearly are allowed to make profit. The issue is that they cannot benefit from any decisions that are made while their dad is president -- i.e. profit from insider trading etc..

    But, I guess COI and nepotism means nothing to you.

    You have voted out one family (the Clintons), but you just voted in a new dynasty. Because everyone can see that Trump's kids will be vying for highest office at one point as well. And he is grooming them for it. And in the absence of estate tax, they'l have the money to buy the presidency, just as their dad.
     
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    0_0....Wait, so you're charging nepotism because the company is in her name, SERIOUSLY? Lol. You have Ma and Pa stores all over this country with their name's attached to their brand and I don't hear anyone complaining. The excuses are just overwhelming.

    Just say it: We hate Trump, and everything to do with Donald Trump moving forward lol.
     
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    There's something amusing about them running the campaign team, and yet "he's grooming them" for highest office. Are they going to be barred from that as well? That, and the fact that it'd seem to be the other way around. Maybe the Trump kids are more talented than daddy. But regardless, the fact is, is that this hatred already surpasses 8 years of Bush.

    Even if they gave all of their companies to the trust funds, and even if they chose everyone's preferred advisors, the Trumps would still be America's most hated family ever. That's the kind of uphill, impossible battle that they're fighting. Over a picture of one bracelet. ONE lousy bracelet.

    I wouldn't want to be a Trump right now. The WH is more of a curse to them then a strength.
     
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    If that is the best that you can come up with in the way of feeble excuses this early in the game you are going to have nothing left for the next 4 years.

    Seriously?

    Have you even bothered to look up the term nepotism?

    Because I suspect it is going to be glaringly obvious throughout the Trump regime.
     
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    You still don't get it, don't you?

    1) The issue is not that she wore the bracelet. The issue is that her company used the occasion to advertise the bracelet, making personal gain from it.
    2) This event just foreshadows what is to come, namely the utilization of the presidency by the Trump family for personal gain.
    3) You haven't addressed the other signs of coming nepotism - Jared Kuchner as cabinet member, Ivanka in the transitional team, kids getting security clearance.

    That's all okay with you? If yes, then you can't really complain about corruption. And the "but Hillary" excuse won't work anymore.
     

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