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  1. Jimmy79

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    And I see nothing here has changed. Republicans and Democrats are blaming the other side for all the ills of the country and world. Only the extremes on either side get a voice because they talk loudest.

    What I dont see is the blame going where it belongs. We the people are abject failures in our most important duty. We fail at being informed and voting for what's best for our city/state/district first and our country second. We have failed at electing good people, and instead rewarded the side that throws the most mud at their opponent with high office.

    This country is in a deep downward spiral. I was hopeful that Trumps election, and the 2016 cycle as a whole, would be a wake up call. It turned out to be the opposite. Americans just went deeper into their own trenches and became even less likely to listen to others. At this point, I dont see a way to recover. I hope I'm wrong and someone emerges that can right this floundering ship.
     
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    OAC?
     
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    No names, no parties. Both sides of the aisle carry an equal level of blame.
     
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    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    Hear, hear!
    We get the government we deserve.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But I don't deserve Pelosi or nutty things like the "New Green Deal" and I don't want taco trucks outside of my home.
     
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    They are part of the whole.
    Thats what a government is. You get people you like and people you don't like.
    You get better representation if everyone is informed and knowledgable, and if they VOTE.
     
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    The problem has been, to many uniformed or low information people have been voting.
     
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    The problem is that not enough people have been voting.
     
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    Again...to many low information and misinformed people have been voting.

    California is a prefect example.
     
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    Everyone is entitled to a vote.
    Who can sit in judgment on fellow voters?
     
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    Exactly what California's leftist are claiming.

    That everyone including non citizens and illegal aliens should be able to vote.

    And if you are to lazy to get off your ass to go to the polls, the Democrats will send a ballot harvester to harvest your ballot.
     
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    How is it that a Party that has had no power in the last years bear the same "blame" as the one that has owned the Presidency, the Senate, the House, the Supreme Court, and has appointed scores of judges and U.S. attorneys?

    Where does the buck stop, then?
     
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    Tsk,tsk,tsk.
     
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    It brought out two things.

    The fact that the media is biased towards democrats.

    The true face of the left wing democrats socialist agenda.
     
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    Voting for Trump was the right call.

    What I see you doing is what you are accusing others of doing.

    Ironic huh?
     
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    It's a well polled and known fact that most voters voted against the other side in 2016. I did not vote for President, I left that slot blank. I do understand why Trump was elected though. He was the jerk that had the guts to say what everyone else was thinking. Even today, I agree with 90% of what hes doing, but his mouth gets him in trouble far more often than not.

    And no, I'm not doing what I blame others of doing. I'm not sticking my head in the sand and pretending one side or the other has some moral high ground. I dont make excuses for either side as both sides hold the same amount of blame for every issue this country has.
     
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    Because every issue you can think of predates Trump. 99% of them also predate Obama and Bush 43 too. This country has shown a great ability to handle the short term issues. It's the long term structural issues that never seem to get fixed. Probably because so many ol f them make such great fund raising tools.
     
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    The media has been biased towards Democrats for at least 2 decades. I agree that they show it more openly now though. The far left are socialists, the far right are theocrats. We all know this, not many claim to want either. Those same people vote for the same people, or other extremes, every election cycle.
     
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    Read George Orwell's 1984, and see what we are headed for when corrupt bureaucrats and the lying liberal media TELL YOU WHO TO VOTE FOR!

    What you are currently seeing is both independent and republican voters fight back while Pelosi ignores HALF THE DAMN COUNTRY! Pelosi was nominated by dem politicians to be speaker and Trump was elected to office.

    Steve
     
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    Actually most voters voted for Hillary.
     
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    I hear this a lot - that the media is biased toward liberals. So if that's true (and it may be) why the **** don't conservatives start their own media companies?They have the money. So the only options are that they are lazy or they don't care or they're not intelligent enough to do so.

    Can't really feel sorry for them on this "bias" if they had options to change it, but just didn't do it.
     
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    You don't have to feel sorry for them, you'll just end up goose-stepping up and down the street to celebrate the democrat party control over your life.

    Steve
     
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    Pathetic hyperbole which did not address my question in the slightest.
     
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    That's the problem. People like AOC and her fans are not informed. They know nothing (literally zero) about basic economics and American history/values.

    If a conservative talks logic about the New Green Deal, the AOC clones just start name-calling. There can be no open and intelligent discourse with that group.
     
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    Yeah it does. Keep brainwashing yourself, and it will be too late to change anything after dems/leftists take control over your life. Joseph Goebbels would be proud.

    Steve
     
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