I've noticed that Pro-Choicers here mentally distract themselves

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've noticed that Pro-Choicers here mentally distract themselves.
    If they see an argument that makes it seem like the fetus is a person, they'll tell themselves "That doesn't matter, because even if it was a person it still wouldn't have rights",
    or, if they see a solid argument for why the fetus should have rights in the womb, they'll say "All that doesn't even matter, because it's not a person in the first place."

    If you try to corner them on either point of argument, they'll deflect by trying to switch to the other one.

    This, of course, is intellectually dishonest, and overall inconsistent. In fact it's a logical fallacy, when this type of defensive strategy is taken as a whole.
    It's essentially equivalent to saying "Whatever you say about one of my arguments doesn't matter because I have TWO arguments".

    I've seen this happen time and time again.
     
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    Please show the EXACT quote where anyone but you said, """That doesn't matter, because even if it was a person it still wouldn't have rights""


    You can't. :)





    Haven't seen one yet :)



    All what?????? NO, you haven't seen anyone but you say that either :)

    You seem so desperate....




    NO, either you can't comprehend what's posted or don't want to.





    No, you haven't and AS USUAL, you have no proof ...

    What a nice flamebaiting OP!
     
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  3. Matt22yuc

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    Instead of complaining that we have more than one reason to be pro-choice (absurd I know) why not actually provide an argument yourself.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can we agree that if some pro-choicers did use this tactic (either consciously or subconsciously) it would be disingenuous?
     
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    No you can have more than one argument for or against something. The fact it bothers you so much probably is indicative of the holes in your own reasoning. One argument is the bottom line while the other is more philosophical.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's nothing wrong with using more than one argument against something. There is something wrong though if you completely dismiss your opponent's rebuttal to one of your arguments because you have another one of them.

    There's a time and place for using arguments, and it often feels people arguing here often throw a barrage of disparate arguments out there in the same discussion, even though that particular discussion might be trying to focus on something in particular, debate a particular aspect of the much bigger issue.
     
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    I dont mind if you call it a person....as long as you call it a dead person after the abortion
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe "it" should get some of the dignity of a person, after death.
     
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    Vegas giants Banned

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    Feel free for you personally to conduct any funeral you like. I am fine with throwing it in medical waste
     
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    And there’s something wrong when someone makes a claim and when they’re asked to provide an argument why they just dodge or ignore it. I’m still waiting.
     
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    To bad you could not experience it first hand. As Reagan said "I notice all the fans of abortion, have been born already."
     
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    You too buddy. Lol
     
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    Let me guess… You’re a man without a uterus
     
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    I doubt if Reagan would say anything that’s stupid but perhaps he did. I guess he expected zygotes to stand up against abortion.I guess I can notice all the aborted fetuses that would have born would been murderers and rapists LOL
     
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    I think you should put the zygote in a coffin and have a funeral and dress it in a beautiful dress or suit
     
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    No......doesn't seem like you can get sane people to agree with you....:)
     
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    Gee, a death threat and a trite oft used oft debunked piece of crap from Reagan..

    Ya, that really was a stupid illogical statement...but Reagan had Alzheimer's...…...
     
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    Quote by Ronald Reagan: “I've noticed that everyone who is ...
    https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/116615-i-ve-noticed-that-everyone...
    Ronald Reagan — ‘I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.’ ... “I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born.” ― Ronald Reagan tags: abortion, obvious, right-to-life. Read more quotes from Ronald Reagan. Share this quote: Like Quote ...
     
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    LOL
     
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    Yeah he was funny
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe because there are none here. Supporting abortion at 24 weeks, tsk, tsk.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If there's such a thing as reincarnation...
    Those souls have to come from somewhere.
     
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    Not being able to address post #2 of this thread ...tsk tsk :)
     
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    Cool, fetuses are people and they have all the same rights as any other person.

    The problem for you is that no person has the right to use the body of another person against that person’s will.
     
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    Totally irrelevant to the abortion issue ..................and anything else....
     

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