I've Now Read 100% of the Redacted Report | My Final Word

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  1. RodB

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    To be precise Mueller was authorized to pursue or refer other crimes only if they were directly related to the Russian-Trump investigation. Trump's supposed obstruction probably suffices. None of the Manafort prosecutions do, for instance.
     
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    Of course, we all know that Congress won't take advantage of their position. They'll just continue with their 'hate Trump and obstruct progress' agenda.
     
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    Popular presidents receive more favorable coverage than unpopular ones across the broad spectrum of journalism.

    It would be bizarre if that were not so, and that would justify the paranoia that consumes some hyper-partisans.

    His relentless pissytweets whining that everyone is being mean to him are actually quite amusing.
     
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    "Despite the IRS claiming otherwise, audits are like... like... BONE SPURS!"
     
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    I loathe Trump.

    I love this thread.

    Why?

    Because things like this thread is what is going to get Trump re-elected. Things like this thread is why Clinton loss and Trump beat her.

    But then, the same reactions from Democrats will occur in 2020 that happened in 2016.

    The the sweet, salty years of Democrats will nourish my black soul once again.

    And if it continues after that?

    Say hello to President Pence, who I will also loathe.
     
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    Popularity is also not supposed to color the news. In other words, if the news anchor does not like a politician, that dislike should not translate into it becoming a negative news story.

    Obviously other people may like same exact tweet, so why couldn't they be a positive news story instead? The only way a Trump tweet news story becomes a negative story is if the news anchor allows his bias and dislike of Trump turn it into a negative opinionated news story, and not simply news.
     
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    True but that's not guarantee that Trump will get re-elected if your depending on those numbers unless he can get the vote of the independents.
     
  9. Primus Epic

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    I love Trump. I adore him to no end and I am forever grateful to him and what he's single handily done for America.

    - He exposed the fact that bigotry in America has not been cured and that it still exists in massive quantities, if just given the right opportunity to pull itself out from whatever rock it finds itself at the moment.
    - He exposed the real face of the Deep State. It is no longer mere theory. It exists and it encompasses a strong Liberal Media Bias working in concert with a strong Liberal Political Agenda.
    - He exposed the underbelly of an impotent, weak, fake Conservative Party calling itself "Republican" but conducting itself like a fearful band of cowards unable to Lead like real Men and Women should.

    Deeply abiding American Bigotry. Unrelenting Deep State. A paralyzed Congress with incompetence at its core and politics as its religion instead of Management as its purpose. These are the things I love about Trump. He's brought this to the surface like no President in my lifetime has. He's exposed our flaws so vividly and so brightly that no one with a conscious can deny their unseemly existence.

    He's my new hero. I now love the man for what he's done. He's been the sunlight so dearly missing, the endoscopy up the rectum of America, showing in fully HD the nasty inner strife we've been fostering over the past 60+ years in this country because of our foolish ways.

    Hail Trump! National Moral Gastroenterologist In Grief. Long live the King of Immoral American Polyps.
     
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    Rosenstein gave him authority for Manafort under 28 CFR 600.4 also listed in his memo.
     
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    Wow, are you both really that thick? Or is it just your partisanship obstructing your ability to think? Someone can obstruct justice without being under investigation himself. “Tough guys” who intimidate witnesses for mob bosses aren’t under investigation, but they are guilt of obstruction.

    It’s quite plausible that Trump was obstructing to protect his own mob boss, Putin.
     
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    The guy actually quoted the report and you’re accusing him of seeing only what he wants to see. Pot meet kettle.

    You’ve got TDS, just like all Trump’s loony supporters.
     
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    They seem to like that argument, but they forget the indicted Russians.
     
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    What is the charge for attempted obstruction of an investigation that was founded to be unprovable?

    Where’s your concern that this might have been an entrapment set by Clinton to spy on an opposing political campaign during the election?

    The fact that the “Russian” attorney worked with Fusion GPS and Glen Simpson met with her before and after doesn’t raise alarm bells?

    “More notable to some lawmakers is Mr. Simpson’s connection to two figures with deep bonds to Russian power, who have long fought for a pet Kremlin cause: Rinat Akhmetshin, a Russian-American lobbyist, and Natalia V. Veselnitskaya, a lawyer known as a formidable Moscow insider.”

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ny...us/politics/fusion-gps-glenn-simpson.amp.html

    How about her visa being denied and her getting a special one ?
     
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    This investigation and the actions of both campaigns has torn this country apart.

    I don't think that we will start to heal from this until 2024.
    In 2020 either Trump will get reelected or a radical Democrat will be elected as an anti trump candidate and that will divide the country even further.
     
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    Trump refuses to allow an unredacted version of the Mueller Report to be given to Congress.

    Trump will fight a subpoena issued by the House Judiciary Committee for former White House counsel Donald McGahn to testify.

    Trump is breaking the law by not turning over six years of tax returns to the House Ways and Means Committee. The chairmen, Richard Neal, is relying on invoking an authority enshrined in the tax code granted only to the tax-writing committees in Congress that gives the chairmen of the House Ways and Means Committee and the Senate Finance Committee the power to request tax information on any filer. It says that the Treasury secretary “shall” furnish the information. Mnuchin, following Trump's orders, flew through today's deadline.

    The White House has instructed a former official who was in charge of the security clearance process to not comply with a House subpoena demanding his appearance for an interview. The White House told the former official, Carl Kline, who now works at the Defense Department, to not appear at Tuesday's deposition.

    "I'm having a good day," Trump said at a White House event for the Wounded Warrior Project. "It’s called no collusion, no obstruction.”

    For an innocent man, Trump is acting quite guilty. He is giving every indication that he is very guilty. Innocent Presidents do not try to hide the truth from Congress and the American people.

    That's the whole point. If the Trump White House would cooperate with our representatives in Congress, this whole thing could be over in a couple months, one way or the other. Unfortunately, it appears the White House is covering for a guilty President.

    What other conclusion is there when they are hiding information from Congress?
     
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    “What other conclusions is there when they are hiding information from congress?”

    Not saying I don’t see your logic because I do but another conclusion is by holding them he is provoking a response from democrats he sees as beneficial to him.
     
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    Wow, this delusional post is simply too much to pass over. What fake world are you living in? Where to begin…?

    You get an ‘A’ for sycophancy, but Trump is no more courageous than the playground bully who picks on weaker kids because he has no self esteem. That’s why he acts like Putin’s and Kim Jong Un’s little byotch. You can tell he’s afraid of Obama, too.
    Neo-nationalists hijacked the Republican Party and got Trump the nomination because he’s a racist. Then Russia put him over the top.
    Thanks to eight years of Obama’s policy stabilizing the nation’s economy that had been screwed up because of the Bush years.[/quote]
    What a joke. Illegal immigration has gone up since Trump took office. Something you can be proud of!
    Yeah, addressing China as “sir” as they walk all over him.
    Sure, so we can use them on the border that he can’t control
    All talk, no action, and for a non-issue
    Yes, but the status quo was dignity and integrity. So… good job.
    Half the people who voted for Trump in 16 are disgusted by who he is and what he’s done. The only way Trump will won is if he rigs the election - and he’s already told us the system is rigged, so I suspect he will try.
    Sheeeeeiiiiiiiit… Amy Klobuchar is more of a man than Trump is. He’s been a p***y his whole life.
    Trump ran his entire campaign on having no policy other than mocking his opponents. He’s a complete fraud and a bunch of damn fools fell for it.
    The troll experiment is over. Americans are going to take their country back from this tool and his band of conspiracy-minded dimdums.
     
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    The charge is obstruction of justice. It’s a crime, even if the underlying investigation does not uncover a crime.
    It’s on the shelf next to my concern that aliens control our military. Get out of here with that crap, unless you actually have some kind of evidence outside of your tinfoil-covered head.

    The rest of your post belongs on the cutting room floor of Conspiracy Today.
     
  20. TurnerAshby

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    He didn’t obstruct though they say he attempted to. What does attempted obstruction of a baseless investigation run ya?

    So New York Times is lying about Fusion GPS’s Glenn Simpson ties with that Russian........ yet I’m partisan...... ya ok
     
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    I quoted evidence here I’ll do it again......

    “In an interview with NBC News, Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya says she first received the supposedly incriminating information she brought to Trump Tower — describing alleged tax evasion and donations to Democrats — from Glenn Simpson, the Fusion GPS owner, who had been hired to conduct research in a New York federal court case.”

    “Starting in 2014, Simpson and Veselnitskaya had both worked on the same side of the Prevezon case, in which the Justice Department accused the Cyprus-based Russian company of laundering hundreds of millions of dollars via New York real estate. Beginning in 2016, Simpson was working with a former British intelligence operative on another project — the Trump dossier.”

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna819526


    “Bharara’s office has recommended immigration paroles for Veselnitskaya on three occasions, when her client, Katsyv, was being deposed in the U.S. in the Prevezon case. But in March 2016, Bharara's office said no. In a letter to Prevezon’s U.S. lawyers, prosecutors said such paroles aren't appropriate for foreign lawyers asking to help U.S. counsel prepare for appellate arguments or to attend appellate proceedings. “Since neither Katsyv nor Veselnitskaya are required to appear as witnesses in person at this stage of proceedings, we do not believe that immigration parole is appropriate,” the since-fired U.S. attorney wrote.

    Nevertheless, three months later, Veselnitskaya not only attended oral arguments in the Prevezon case but also traveled uptown to meet with Trump campaign officials.”

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1D62Q2
     
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    I actually think some of you actually believe that idiot drivel.

    The facts are all there right in front of you. Documented and witnessed.

    Trump has done things that would have made Nixon cringe,
     
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    It’s getting to that with the Trumpsters...
     
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    Yep it’s just the TDS clouds their vision lol
     
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    Conscious minded people know he's eternally corrupt and morally salvageable.

    Conscious minded people know he's eternally corrupt and ethically unstable.

    Conscious minded people know he's eternally corrupt and void of integrity.

    Conscious minded people know he's eternally corrupt and diminished in character.


    Conscious minded people know he's eternally corrupt and without principle.


    Conscious minded people know he's eternally corrupt and unable to establish priorities outside the motives produced by his own ego.


    Conscious minded people know he's eternally corrupt and that he willingly cooperated, coordinated and colluded with Russians to commit election fraud on the American People.


    The conclusion is that he grabbed the System by the puzzy and did whatever he wanted to do.

    Look, Donald Trump, is a total loss cause. He's a full blown Reprobate. There is no right track in him. You are witnessing the absolute best model for most redacted character possible in an individual. It does not get much lower in value than Donald Trump. THAT is why I love him so much. You are going about this the wrong way. I was angry at one point as well, but that's not the bright side. The bright side is that this type and kind of individual rose to the highest office in the land. How? Because, too many people in this country sank to the lowest depths of Depravity. THAT is WHY you should adore this man. Adore him from bringing this out in America.

    We needed this Societal Enema. Don't you see. He's flushing out all the Depraved People who believe they are true Americans out into the open where they can be counted. Donald Trump, is that caramel flavored intestinal flush that a patient takes just before a Colonoscopy. You must understand how important it is for this man's term in office to run its full course - no different than a Virus running its full course in your body, until the Antibodies come out to destroy it at the polls. You take him down at the polls.

    Now, I would strongly suggest that you replace his butt with someone who respects the United States Constitution and all its Amendments, including the Second Amendment; who respects all Life, including the Unborn Life and who respects a Free Market Economy with enough regulatory controls to protect the American Worker and Consumer. That's what this country needs. We don't need an Ultra Left President. We don't need an Ultra Right President. We need only that which is Good for All Americans which is more than likely not going to be extreme in either direction.

    Trump, and all his disgusting, putrid family members who sit by idly and never correct their Baby King Daddy (what a disgusting and horrible bunch of people) coupled to all of Trump's intestinal character flaws and morbid gestation period for all things obnoxiously dumb, is the very thing that can set the country on a correct path, if the American People, use this opportunity to see the urgent need not to wax Ultra Political in any one direction or the other - but to bring Moderation into the White House AND the United States Congress.

    We need a total flushing and cleaning of the entire DC Swap, of all its Field Rats, Mambo King Snakes (don't worry - I just created that one because it sounded good) and sludgy "K" Street leaches who suck the American Tax Payer dry. We then need to sterilize the gaping wound, use lots of Hydrogen Peroxide and Alcohol, then apply antimicrobial ointment before using sterile gauze to dress the affected areas. Once the Trump Virus has been eradicated, the wound sterilized and sufficient time has elapsed for healing, we can take the bandages off America and move on about our business doing something positive to reduce our national debt which is now approaching $24 Trillion.

    That should just about cover it. Did I miss anything?
     

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