Ivermectin the de-wormer

even the one research paper that claimed to have said this has pulled the paper and admit it was a fraud

so basically what we have is people like Rogan that said it help, but then you find out that they also had Antibodies injected into them at same time, which do you think it was that really helped, the dewormer or the antibodies

 

I find it interesting how easily some are misinformed and hold onto misinformation as if it were fact.


https://c19ivermectin.com

 

Then we have this....

 

well I hope if unvaxed people get covid, they are at least getting the Antibodies like Rogan, then they can claim whatever other placebo they take was the cure

 

What do you people think of the info I linked to in post #50?
http://politicalforum.com/index.php...bout-ivermectin.591850/page-6#post-1072925009

 

470 children (all 470 had at least 4 comorbidities) of the 666,000 recorded COVID deaths in nearly 2 years while in a single season of the 2018-2019 flu season, 477 children succumbed to the flu. This was the fasted expedited vaccine in our history and mRNA is revolutionary but has NEVER been FDA approved as a therapeutic and we do NOT have data on the long term effects to children. There are many, MANY cases of Myocarditis in children and still do not understand what long term effect of of that is.

Funny how people are willing to listen to WHO when they were clamoring for mask usage, however when they want to pump the breaks of vaccinating children while we get more data, people are like "you want to trust a foreign agency?".

Natural immunity has shown to be vastly better than the vaccines, especially against the variants and the survival rate for children 0-17 is over 99.999%. Your and my child stand a VASTLY greater threat of death from H1N1 or even froma car than the rona but there is no idea how the vaccine might impact you child later in life.

 

For those that like to follow the science.

Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19

https://osf.io/wx3zn/

 

Sorry but they did

they have been studying MRNA vaccines for years before Corona came along

https://www.nature.com/articles/nrd.2017.243

In fact it has been studies as a possible vaccine vector since the 1990s

https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10...leading-technology-in-the-covid-vaccine-race/

 

Studying yes.

Never passed testing to licensing previously including failed animal studies, yes.

These shots didn’t have clinical animal trials, true.

 

I just love when people post made up rubbish

Citation?

But I love the lack of logic where someone thinks that “natural immunity” where you are at risk of developing the full blown nasty is somehow preferable to teaching the immune system how to recognise and deal with the problem before it kills you

Oh! And as for myocarditis in children

 

From your source:

"Dr Stone recalls, “It was just pandemonium. We had patients that we couldn’t transfer out. We had people piling up in the car park dying and it was actually terrible. We had to do what we could to save the lives of these patients”

Ivermectin administration started on 8th August. A colleague who ran a 22-bed hospital in an old-age care home was able to empty the hospital in six days, despite five of the patients being classed as ‘critical’ at the outset. In Dr Stone’s own clinic two critical patients also survived and were discharged with oxygen for use at home. “One of them I really sent home for palliative care, with a very good nurse”. A few days later she was astonished to be told that in spite of apparently poor blood chemistry – including a D-dimer level of 10,000 – the patient felt well and was walking round the garden.

“From 8th August until 24th December I didn’t lose a patient and if you look at our patient group, 26% of them [had oxygen saturations] of less than 80%”, she said"
The impact of ivermectin use in Zimbabwe
http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/ivermectin-the-de-wormer.591785/#post-1072921329

 

This doctor says it quite eloquently.

 

Funny thing is that the USUAL pathway for advocating a new drug is to do what is called a RCT or Random Controlled Trial - now these are difficult and time consuming but they are the gold standard and she would be allowed to prescribe the ivermectin under those circumstances

 

It is false that all dead children had 4 comorbidities. Where the hell are you getting this? There's been a number of deaths in children with no co-morbidity. And you should learn about MIS-C as well.

It is true that the flu is dangerous to children, more to babies and toddlers than children over 5. I showed the exact numbers in a discussion with poster ChrisAU something. I won't re-post but it's in my posting history.

Myocarditis from the mRNA vaccines has been rare, mild, and transient.

Long term, like I said, we simply aren't seeing long term effects... this vaccine degrades in hours. If something goes wrong, it tends to happen early.

That an mRNA vaccine was never before approved by the FDA, is entirely irrelevant. So, we had never sent men to the moon until we did. We used to get transportation from horses, we did not have automobiles until we did. We had never had an mRNA vaccine fully approved by the FDA. Now we do. It's called scientific progress.

You can say "funny how people... " as much as you want but *I'm* consistent. I've criticized the WHO many times here.

"Natural immunity has shown to be vastly better than the vaccines...". Nope. Natural immunity as in someone who never encountered the virus and has some sort of cross-immunity given previous encounters with common cold coronavirus, is way way way way way way way inferior to vaccines. What you are talking about is the immunity from having had Covid-19 already. There is ONE study indicating better immunity to a SECOND infection than a first one for a vaccinated person (there are also studies saying the opposite). But that study is very flawed and I've picked it apart in another post. In any case, hey, great advantage... you CATCH Covid-19, then you get a bit more immune to catching it AGAIN. I'd rather have the vaccine and avoid catching it in the FIRST place. Duh! Stupid study! And then, it's not even the conclusion. They concluded that catching the virus AND getting vaccinated is actually the best protection against Delta. Read the study. Then look up in my posting history the long post where I criticized that study. You may learn a thing or two.

This notion is laughable... you need to FIRST catch it to the be a bit better protected against RE-catching it. Thanks, but no thanks. I prefer the two doses of the vaccine + a booster, which by the way has restored the efficacy of the vaccines against Delta, as per a crucial Israeli study with 1.2 million people, published on August 27th (again, it is in my posting history). That study you THINK shows superiority of "natural immunity" never considered boosters... and had 3 groups; I've shown that for a full conclusion we'd need 7 groups. So it's very incomplete and not considering boosters pretty much invalidates the conclusion, as boosters enhance by ten-fold the immunogenicity of the vaccines.

And you talk about myocarditis from the vaccines... it's rare, mild, and transient... (see the post above by Bowerbird)... and have you considered that myocarditis from the VIRUS itself is way more frequent, more serious, and more permanent??? Have you seen the Ohio University study showing 30% of student athletes who got mild or asymptomatic cases of Covid-19 and still ended up with myocarditis? You are out of your mind if you think that the mRNA vaccines are causing 30% of myocarditis. It's way way way way rarer than that, so I'd rather have a tiny risk from the vaccine than a big risk from the virus.

Just by your use of "the rona" I get the type of person I am talking with (not to forget the large number of idiotic opinions you've spouted - not only about the vaccines but you are a proponent of ivermectin as well, LOL - see if you learn how to interpret the two large recent meta-analyses with RCTs showing no benefit of ivermection). Which is why from now on, I won' be reading your posts any longer. Have a nice and long life. Be safe. Get vaccinated. Vaccinate your kids when authorized. Over and out forever as far as you're concerned. No time further waste with a poster like you.

 

Actually... it is working extremely well in India.

https://covid.us.org/2021/06/27/ivermectin-use-in-india/