Jacob Rees-Mogg outlines how Britain can cause 'MAXIMUM inconvenience' for 'insincere' EU

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

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    Just leave. Hard Brexit, please.
    Do it.
     
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    What do you care, you live in CO.
    Unless you want a hard Brexit for a transatlantic trade deal, then I could see how this'll matter to you.
    Guess you want the UK to Brexit and be free to have a US UK free trade deal.
     
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    This prime minister is showing signs of megalomania, and it's being manifested in two ways - her obsessiveness is overwhelming the basic humility of listening to, and considering the advice of, wiser heads; and her absence of judgmental skill, now being evidenced by the belief that she can actually reconcile her Brexit rationale with that of the dysfunctional and self-serving Labour party. She is a lame duck prime minister, and will be unseated in the very near future, therefore should not be allowed to make long-term decisions of moment: her ineptness will not only destroy the Tory party, but our country also, unless this process is halted, and halted quickly.
     
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    Dear Donald,

    Please, oh please will you give us some extra time. I'll be ever so grateful. Lots of love.

    Yours obsequiously,

    Theresa. XXXXX

    'Dear Donald' - ffs a British 'prime minister' grovelling to a foreign pen-pusher. Churchill and Thatcher must be turning in their graves!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47825841
     
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    I am a European citizen and I want the UK out, April 12th and don't let the door hit you in the ars.
     
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    So you can enter into a new trade deal with the UK.
    Say hi to Trump for me.
     
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    Why should I enter into a trade deal with that banana island.
     
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    Because it'll make sense.

    US is UK's largest export market.
    UK is one of US's largest export market.
     
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    And again a lie ... seriously: Can you Brexeteers also can write / tell only 1 time the full truth please?
    Slowly it becomes boring with your bombardment of lies ... tell it often enough and people will start to believe the worst crap, or what is your tactic?

    The EU does not want to seperate Northern Ireland from the UK, but the stupid Brexit Clowns ignore the peace process in Northern Ireland with arroganca and ignorance ... which has to do with the border and this has to do with the Internal market and cusotms Union ... Damned it! Are you Brexit Clowns trying to play a modern version of Dr. Goebbels or what is the matter?
     
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    Brexit Britain’s weakness exposed in US trade deal documents
    http://theconversation.com/brexit-britains-weakness-exposed-in-us-trade-deal-documents-113077

    "With US agricultural imports would also come US agricultural and sanitary and phytosanitary standards, which are in place to protect against diseases. This will create hurdles for British agricultural exports heading to the EU, as it will no longer meet EU standards. For British farmers, the wholesale removal of trade barriers with the US may also come at a time when the industry is particularly vulnerable. Following Brexit, British agriculture will lose access to the EU subsidies it receives through the Common Agricultural Policy. While the UK government has promised to replace these, questions about its ability to fund its many post-Brexit promises remain."

    "British manufacturers face the same demands to harmonise their regulations from the US trade representative, creating similar difficulties for exporters targeting the EU. Then, when it comes to services, US demands are much more dramatic.

    Britain’s service sector brings in a substantial trade surplus – something the US will be loath to add to its growing trade deficit. Central to US plans will be to privatise and deregulate British services, such as healthcare provision or utilities and infrastructure, to enable easy market access for internationally-engaged American enterprises. These same corporations are actively engaged in the trade agreement process on the US side.
    American ambitions for bringing UK regulations in line with its own also extends to trade of digital goods and services, potentially causing a tremendous shift away from EU regulations, which concern everything from intellectual property rights to data protection and digital privacy."

    "As part of the deep integration objectives, the US-UK trade agreement will cover additional non-trade issues. These include labour standards, environmental protection and anti-corruption measures – all areas where the UK arguably is currently tougher than the US."

    "Relinquishing control, not taking it back
    Rather than taking back control, the starting point for US-UK trade negotiations is one where the British government cedes sovereignty over a wide range of issues. Britain’s size and detachment from the EU single market limits its bargaining power with large trade partners, whose governments will have no concern for the effects on the British public.

    While harmonising standards with the US will pose a barrier to future trade with the EU, the deal could also increase limitations on British foreign policy more broadly. The US is also pursuing a clause that allows it to withdraw from a US-UK agreement if the UK agrees to an agreement with certain countries such as China. Similar terms are included in the US-Japan trade agreement objectives, as the Trump administration tries to limit China’s economic influence across the globe. There is also a section in the US objectives that is designed to limit Britain’s independence over its Middle East foreign policy.

    The hard line taken by the US, along with the wide range of concessions demanded of the UK clearly point to the UK’s weakened bargaining position outside the EU. And the US is not the only trading partner seeking significant concessions in exchange for a deal. India, Japan, and South Korea have all signalled similar expectations in preparations for their own deals. All of this sits in stark contrast to the Brexit campaign’s promise to “take back control”."

    America first!
    India first!
    China first!
    South Korea first!
    Andorra first!
     
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    The UK would be a small fish in a shark-tank.
     
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    That's just hurt feelings because you're upset with the UK over Brexit, you'd like that to be the case, but it's just you expressing your hurt feelings than it is reality, which can be forgiven since you're already missing the UK and the UK's not even out the door yet.
    However, in reality, I maintain that nobody can really be that dumb to actually believe this or even think this is even a scare tactic when we know better than that.
    I forgive you for missing the UK, and understand such words are words from an upset EU.

    It's often natural to feel animosity in any divorce, but in reality, you should just be happy for us/The UK for meeting somebody new and being happy.
     
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    They all are - it's sour grapes because they're gonna miss our money gushing into the ECB every month.
     
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    Fact ... but ignored and denied by the Brexit Clowns ... of whom many believe they have the power of once when there was a British Empire etc. But in trade negotiation with the US, it looks for the UK like this


    UK ..... versus .... US

    And the funny thing is, due to the internal market of the EU which is like a market of one country in all consequences and hatred by all others it looks like this in comparison:

    EU ..... versus .... US


    Good luck for the future and to get good deal points as donotion from Trump...
     
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    ...or its just a febrile backlash being hijacked by dilettantes and poseurs following a valid democratic outcome.....
     
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    Even the terms for leaving without a deal have been hyped up to sound apocalyptic - 'crashing out', 'looking into the chasm of uncertainty,' 'cliff-edge'! Gimme a break!! :rolleyes: :yawn:
     

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