Jair Bolsonaro declared Brazil's next president

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  1. Thought Criminal

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    I confess to being totally uninformed of the Brazillian political situation, so I don't know there are parallels to the western world.

    What we are seeing in the west, is reprellion against the repression being forced upon us by that globalist agenda of bringing us down to some middle ground.

    The globalists should be focused only on raising up the less developed nations. Authoritarians, stealing from others, invite opposition.
     
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    Who created Globalism then?
     
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    Ok Goody, I am looking into the background of the Left's corruption in Brazil as I read an article a few weeks ago which questioned this and I have come across an organisation which appears to have been working in the way you suggest.


    https://novaramedia.com/2016/05/31/...chment-and-the-growth-of-the-right-in-brazil/


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Network


     
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    The fake news pushes American nationulism is not fascism; it's a lie.
     
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    Nope, 22catch, the left and the center and the responsible right have done nothing of the sort.
     
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    Dunno/donmember.

    It was what, 30-40 years ago that they were openly discussing the plan like what goody outlined? If it was being openly promoted back then, the idea must have been formed before that time.

    I'm going to try to find out who came up with the idea, over dinner and drinks. I will guess that it was some Ivory Tower idealists.


    (Some concept of Globalism probably dates back to the beginning of time.)
     
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    Americanism is nationalism. There is nothing wrong with loving the USA. Do not accept what Democrats tell you to do. If not America, then who?
     
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    Progressives are to blame, people are tired of their support of identity politics, crime, special rights and terrorism.
     
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    As an old timer on forums, let me repeat what I have said many times.

    Democrats so loved Castro they raised hell he was not getting his way with America.
    So loved Hugo Chavez that no matter what he did to his people, it was fine since he was the left.
    Now they worship Maduro.

    Brazil at last has the opportunity for less corruption and more freedom. So Democrats hit hard at Brazil. I believe what matters most is what matters to Brazil and they gave wide support to the newly elective president.
     
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    For ordinary people progressiveness means identity politics (aka racism and sexism), support for lawlessness and pederasty.
     
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    That is the argument of people like you, Robert. Loving the USA does not mean embracing far right dark doctrines of cult leadership, volk, and party authoritarianism. America with a balanced Democratic and Republican system.
     
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    Not in the slightest: only the authoritarians on the far right believe that. Their identity politics include cult leadership, vote suppression, sexism, and pro-white and anti-color racism.
     
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    Now you explained why i do not embrace the cult of Democrats.

    Well done.

    Democrats are provably the authoritarian party.

     
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    That is the argument of people like you, Robert. Loving the USA does not mean embracing far right dark doctrines of cult leadership, volk, and party authoritarianism. America with a balanced Democratic and Republican system.

    Condoleeza Rice and George W. Bush and Dick Army and George Will reject your cult of far right authoritarianism, volk, and identity politics.
     
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    I have nothing resembling our claims.
     
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    May i ask why you embrace the cult of the Democrats?
     
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    Except that Le Pen is less fascist than Macron and the policy she ask for is quite the opposite of fascism in fact, it shows how ill informed you are. And I'm neither for or against Trump. The same for Orban, I don't have that much sympathies for him, even if I fully understand that eastern europe want to avoid the same disaster that happened in western Europe.

    "By most of the world". Who is "most of the world", your newspapers ? Or did you became megalomaniac enough to consider yourself as the self proclaimed representant of "the rest of the world".
     
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    Business conglomerates and corrupt politicians mostly.
     
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    Here Owen Jones explains why in the UK centrists are not the solution - it is because
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1057278286731100160

    I have heard the American left say the same about the Democrats.
     
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    Globalism is healthy. Nationalism is a disease.
     
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    How so?
     
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    It seems to be it serves Global Capitalism and Corporations most. It was created by the West and supposed to give the most to the West but it is a bit difficult to understand how that would be so when obviously people are going to go to the cheapest place to hire people and the cheapest place to stash their money. Anyway the people it has apparently been helping the least are the 'affluent middle class' in the West and the poorest 5% of the world. However it most certainly is not the only reason why people's standard of living is going down, though politicians like to ignore that and yes, far right ones like to put the blame on immigration - another way of projecting problems away from them.

    https://theconversation.com/how-ant...ht-wing-issue-and-where-it-will-go-next-90587
     

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