Japan marks 71st anniversary of Hiroshima atomic bombing

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Funny how this only applies to 2 strikes on 2 Japanese cities, and ignores the remainder

    Yes you would what?
    Opine against the incessant incendiary strikes on Japanese cities, which killed more people and destroyed more area? Examples?
    Notice that Hiroshima and Nagasaki was destroyed by conventional weapons, same as every other city in Japan had been as well? Why?
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Can't answer the questions, eh?
    No surprise.
     
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    Or workplace violence.
     
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    In other news... Surprise Bombing the US Navy base at Pearl Harbor on a Sunday morning was the biggest military blunder in history...Repercussions are a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*), ain't they. :roflol:
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Indeed.
    Not a single US serviceman preparing to invade Japan proper shed a tear when the bombs went off
     
  6. Battle3

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    When Japan starts teaching their own children about their evil deeds before and during WW2, then they can preach about the evils of the world.
     
  7. DrewBedson

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    Not according to the Nazi's own laws. By the Nuremberg Laws he was of mixed race. In any case he was no9t a general nor was he one of those in Sam's picture.,
     
  8. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    there were military objectives in both Nagasaki and Hiroshima.

    mass-murdering Polish and Jewish non-military civilians? not so much.
     
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    Yeah... OK.
     
  10. MVictorP

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    Well, the Jews in Germany did a couple of terrorism attempts on the Nazi party and international jewry did declare economic war on Germany. That, by today's standards, is all they needed to, well, eliminate them, if we judge by the Hiroshima/Nagasaki standards you defend so much. They were all as complice as the Japanese civilians were, did they not?
     
  11. Ronstar

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    "the jews in germany" committed terrorism against the Nazis?

    no sir a few individuals out of 600,000 people committed violent acts. Its bigoted to blaim all German Jews for such acts.

    and no, the international Jewish community did NOT declare economic war on Germany. Some Jews in the USA decided to declare an official and voluntary boycott of German goods. It did little.
     
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    Yeah... The Japanese civilians, on the other hand, were all born criminals because of Pearl Harbour, ain't it?

    Must be difficult living with these double standards.
     
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    The purpose of war has always been to kill enemy fighters and take over their land, abscond their riches and persecute their innocent civilians who, in the past, have had their women and girls raped and their men and boys slaughtered. It is still that way in many areas of the world. Yet America used its treasure and power to help rebuild Japan which is now a world power.
     
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    nice strawman.

    The Target Committee nominated five targets: Kokura, the site of one of Japan's largest munitions plants; Hiroshima, an embarkation port and industrial center that was the site of a major military headquarters; Yokohama, an urban center for aircraft manufacture, machine tools, docks, electrical equipment and oil refineries; Niigata, a port with industrial facilities including steel and aluminum plants and an oil refinery; and Kyoto, a major industrial center.

    Hiroshima was described as "an important army depot and port of embarkation in the middle of an urban industrial area.

    On May 30, Stimson asked Groves to remove Kyoto from the target list due to its historical, religious and cultural significance, but Groves pointed to its military and industrial significance.[75] Stimson then approached President Harry S. Truman about the matter. Truman agreed with Stimson, and Kyoto was temporarily removed from the target list.[76] Groves attempted to restore Kyoto to the target list in July, but Stimson remained adamant.[77][78] On July 25, Nagasaki was put on the target list in place of Kyoto

    This weapon is to be used against Japan between now and August 10th. I have told the Sec. of War, Mr. Stimson, to use it so that military objectives and soldiers and sailors are the target and not women and children. Even if the Japs are savages, ruthless, merciless and fanatic, we as the leader of the world for the common welfare cannot drop that terrible bomb on the old capital [Kyoto] or the new [Tokyo]. He and I are in accord. The target will be a purely military one

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki#Choice_of_targets
     
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    Maybe once you are bombed and occupied you too will become a world power.

    :eyepopping:

    Japan was a world power before WWII, not after. Before WWII, Japan was a signatory of the 1922 Washington Naval treaty as the third more important world navy - and it took the WNT to kept it from surpassing the UK's as the second.
     
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    NOTE TO EVERYONE READING THIS THREAD:

    This is 100% fact.

    Ron? Double standard much?
     
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    Well we were bombed....by Japan....We won....And now we ARE. :clapping: If Japan had occupied the U.S., America would be no more.

    So you are saying that Japan is not currently a world power? Hear that Japan? MVictorP says you are NOT currently a world power. :roflol: Who knew? :roflol:
     
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    im not the topic of this thread, bro.
     
  19. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

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    Just answer the question and stop focusing on me. It was a VERY legitimate question.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you had a question for me?
     
  21. DrewBedson

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    Your convoluted argument would allow Israel to conduct legal global war against ant nation that harbors the BDS movement, make legal assasinations against their leaders and bomb their meeting places as well as any Palestinian territory or group.
     
  22. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    indeed, his logic would allow genocide against the Palestinian people, due to the terrorist acts of a few hundred Palestinians.
     
  23. US Conservative

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    False comparison in any case.
     
  24. MVictorP

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    Yes - my convulted argument is the one you like to use. Myself I used it with cynism, but you can use it without.

    Give that giggling chimp a cigar.
     
  25. SamSkwamch

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    Haha, pretty funny. And I did not find what you wrote convoluted. Your post was actually quite clear.
     

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