Jesus is the way and that way is the Gnostic Christian way. Not Christianity’s way.

Jesus is the way and that way is the Gnostic Christian way. Not Christianity’s way.


Isaiah 56:11) "They are shepherds who have no understanding; They have all turned to their own way, each on to his unjust gain, to the last one" But do not despair, for the day of judgment is at hand, for the day of judgment and the day of the LORD occupy the same time frame. All the dross will be burned away. (Zech 13:9) & (Malachi 3:3). In that day, "you will distinguish between the righteous and the wicked" (Malachi 3:1


Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.


Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.


The Luke and Mark quotes are referring to the following.


Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.


John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.


Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.


For an extended view of that from my favorite philosopher. ----





You will note that the bible teaches Jesus’ way and Gnostic Christianity follows that good way, yet the church never teaches Jesus’ true way.


Why is Christianity ignoring and even hiding the only worthy Jesus and the teachings of his way?


Regards

DL

 

That is not correct. By saying/writing that you show that you have yet to Know the Gnosis. You should have said "I am the way". Do you know who I am? And do you Know who I am?

 

You do not recognize the Gnostic Christian mandate.

I am not the way. The method is.

I am just a guy who was enlightened by Jesus' way and point it our to others.

Regards
DL

 

Then you have yet to discover gnosis. You are not "just the guy". I am the way. You are not your body and/or mind. You misunderstand the words attributed to Jesus because you approach them with mind. You must leave mind behind and Know. What changes is not real; what is real does not change. You are The Eternal State with without form and without beingness. "I" who am there before consciousness am not concerned in any way to all that happens in consciousness. This is "the way". I am That. But as long as you believe you are your body, your fate remains that when your body dies, you die.

 

I can judge what I know. You cannot.

I choose to be what I choose to be. Within the limits of nature and physics of course.

Regards
DL

 

Then what about the possibility of a human, being given immortality and the capability to manifest even down here in four dimensional space - time?

I do believe the tradition about Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus after his resurrection, eating some bread and fish and also being able to go through walls and surprise his disciples. This is all quite logical in terms of String Theory.

It seems that Elijah, Enoch and Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus had their bones and four dimensional bodies with them in paradise / heaven.

Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus promised to return again.... isn't it to mentor and teach humans much as he did with his disciples during the forty days that he was able to appear to them before he went up into heaven?

Near death experiencer Mellen Benedict saw this earth, our material bodies, as being extremely important in the over all plan.


(My apologies to the degree that I am misunderstanding your real point here)?!

http://www.near-death.com/reincarnation/experiences/mellen-thomas-benedict.html#a05

....

Isn't the long term goal to have a utopian earth where our ancestors who attain Moshiach consciousness can appear to us and guide us out of trouble and to the attainment of higher and higher levels of consciousness and ability?

Within a few centuries should there not be many human with the capabilities that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus had after his resurrection?

 

But in this case I know when your judgement is incorrect or of mind.

LOL!!! No, you are what you are. In this world of limits the appearance of your existence allows you to choose what to do with that appearance/illusion. But in reality, you are what you are.

 

There is no "giving". As long as you believe you are an entity, spiritual salvation and all this talk is useless. Your original, true state of being is present now. The knowledge in you that knows change is, itself, changeless. Your true being exists prior to the arising of any concepts. Apprehending this is being dead to the “I am the body” while alive. Can you grasp this or does it escape you?

So goes the story.

I am with you always.

 

Even near death experiencers like Mellen Benedict and Christian Andreason who were shown about this....... and in a sense experienced it....... were blown away by the implications of this huge truth so............... I have to admit that my understanding of this is only a fraction of what Mellen and Christian and other near death experiencers like yourself have of this.

John 15:4

"Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me."

I believe that the Word / Logos wishes to get closer and closer and closer to each of us until the Word can speak through our mouths....... do things through our hands....... and walk around through our feet.

But technically......... the Word / Logos is already in us and has been in us from something like nearly infinite time in the past...... due to the eternal nature of the breath of life that was breathed into our grandparents Adam and Eve.



The Man on the Throne by Christian Andreason.... is he onto something important?

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...reason-is-he-onto-something-important.401732/

 

That's just it, Dennis... The word/Logos is your Self. "It" cannot get any "closer"! The problem is not with its distance. The problem is with our own unawareness of our Self and our Nature. You are what you have been searching for, and I am not referring to your body or mind. I am referring to what remains unseen and unknown of your Self and Being. Before you occurred to yourself you were in the highest state. Before you knew yourself, ...that was your true state.

But you see, that is backward. You have the cart before the horse. You are That. You are the "Logos" and an impression of a human existence has been laid over the Truth. You are what you seek. There is nothing to learn, nothing to become, no place to go, nothing to have or gain. There is only a letting go. There is only the task of finding how to forget, ... to overlook what you believe. This is why all traditions speak of "overcoming" and "awakening". A devotee asked Buddha what's to be done and the Buddha said "drop! drop! drop!" You must "deny thyself". You must "overcome the world" and your world in one of everything you hold to be real but is not. You must abandon all belief, hope, expectation, intention, purpose, knowledge, desire, and all claims to anything, even if just for a minute. If you learn to silence your mind you will gain an insight into all this because it will show you how much hides behind all of it.

 

I am of the belief that the twin brother of Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus has reincarnated in our time period and after his brush with death he wrote a gospel that is 1000 percent better, in my opinion, even than the Gospel of John,(which had been my favourite gospel until November of 2012).


http://www.thomastwin.com/7 A Thomas samples.html

If you get the free time you would love the gospel that he wrote.

 

I looked through it, searching for key words and concepts. The article perpetuates the false idea of separation. It asserts a distinction between humanity and God, and between the "Father, Son, and Holy spirit". And the distinction suggests strongly an individual existence of all. The closest it comes to the Truth is in saying "the only reality is the Divine Trinity of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Humanity, collectively, is the “Son of God.” The world is an illusion, like a movie which the Son of God (humanity) has projected out of ignorance."

The Truth in that is that the world is an illusion. (We are told to "overcome even as I have overcome [the world] because the world is an illusion and we must overcome the illusion.) The "Father" is "the Son" and "the Son" is the Holy Spirit, all as one entity, one Being, one "IS". The three are simply different views of the One as they appear to us in different stages of our purification. There is Knowing this, and there is Experiencing it. You can Know it for yourself without me or anyone having to tell you. All it takes is to completely overlook all your understandings, your beliefs, your expectations, and your clinging. Just drop it all as one and then ask for insight into the "Trinity". "Ask and ye shall receive."



[/quote] If you get the free time you would love the gospel that he wrote.[/QUOTE]
It can only entertain since it cannot guide you in overcoming the illusion when it doesn't challenge or address the illusion of separation.

There is no such thing as experiencing Reality. Only Reality is. There is nothing else but illusion, and illusion doesn't exist. I, who am there before consciousness, am not concerned in any way with all that happens in consciousness. Even the experience that you are is not your true nature. When consciousness tries to know itself, in due course it is stabilized in the Absolute. Stay put in “I am nothing” without giving it meaning, and you will mature quickly.

 

On the other hand...... G-d seems to be wanting to give both individuality
as well as an extremely high level of consciousness to more and more and more
others.

This earth...... although one of the hell environments in the minds of many, is also something of
a high level soul factory....... as well of course of lower and lower levels of souls, over the short term.

Dr. George Ritchie's experience of the City of Light is quite a contrast in comparison to all the lower
levels of afterlife that he had also been shown in the first part of his near death experience.


http://www.near-death.com/science/research/city-of-light.html#a02

 

Yes, my fav. philosopher as well. The Church as the summoning siren to put you to sleep, and keep you from knowing your true self.

 

Dead men do not resurrect. To try to build an ideology based on the supernatural is a waste of good time.

Regards
DL

 

Indeed.

Intelligent people are so much harder to manipulate.

Hence the dumbing down of the general population.

Regards
DL

 

Yet another Christian telling other Christians they are not Christians while the other Christians say he is not Christian. Makes me wonder if there actually are any Christians. It does not actually matter though as they ALL base this hatred of each other on the message of love presented by the Christ that was created from multiple stories by multiple civilizations that came before by multiple people over multiple centuries.
Silly reason to get upset.

 

Not if you are a woman or gay who continues to be discriminated against by homophobic and misogynous religious people.

Regards
DL

 

....Uh....we Atheists get or fair share as well. In fact, everyone who is not in their particular congregation (and many of those too) are subject to the Ire of the Yahweh they talk to on Sundays.

 

Indeed.

To the religious, all those in other tribes/religion are evil.

It is that good old fear of the dreaded --- other.

Regards
DL