Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

27 January 1945
The 800 inmates who had been left behind in the Monowitz hospital were liberated along with the rest of the camp on 27 January 1945 by the 1st Ukrainian Front of the Red Army. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_concentration_camp

So you want to tell us the nazis were caring for all those J-Ws in a ****ing hospital and wasting all those precious resources heal them when all they had to do was gazzem? ****ing seriously?

That sounds more like J-W logic, not nazi logic.

BTW, what evidence do you have to support your claim that nazi dynamited it? Forensics? Nazi confession? More lying J-Ws? Which?

you are the one making all the claims here burden of proof is all on you! cough it up or concede!

 

I have no reason to evade your questions and am only trying to figure out to which buildings you were referring.

You continue to evade the question: why would the well organized Germans locate a homicidal gas chamber with hundreds of screaming people right next door to the Gestapo office and across the street from the camp hospital where the cyanide fumes would sicken or kill anyone walking nearby?

Thousands of gullible tourists are told by your "...historians and intellectually honest folk..." that the morgue was a homicidal gas chamber, however, if that morgue was ever a homicidal gas chamber why didn't the Germans destroy it? Why are the drain lines from a homicidal gas chamber tied into the camp drain field? Why are there easily broken glass windows, flimsy wooden doors, no ventilation system etc etc.

If you're claiming that the ruins at Auschwitz 2 were gas chambers, I ask the same question that @Kokomojojo did: why did the Germans leave the "evidence" behind? What evidence is there that the ruins were ever used as homicidal gas chambers?

Meanwhile:
EXCERPT "...concerning the "gas chambers" there is nothing: no contract for construction, not even a study, nor an order for materials, nor a plan, nor an invoice, nor even a photograph. In a hundred war crimes trials, nothing of the sort was ever produced.”CONTINUED(1)

Re:

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You're deliberately misquoting me in a transparent attempt to score points. Where did I ever say that every holocaust victim was gassed? Even establishment holocaustian, Arno Mayer says that more Holocaust casualties were caused by typhus and "natural causes" than by execution.


(1)“The 'Problem of the Gas Chambers’”
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v01/v01p103_Faurisson.html

EXCERPT “Concerning the crematoria of Auschwitz, there is just as there is generally for the entire camp an overabundance of documents and invoices down to the last penny. However, concerning the "gas chambers" there is nothing: no contract for construction, not even a study, nor an order for materials, nor a plan, nor an invoice, nor even a photograph. In a hundred war crimes trials, nothing of the sort was ever produced.”CONTINUED

 

Dont worry your head off, we know who blew the buildings, and it was not the nazis, chalk up another one of your bullshit stories debunked.'

Roza Robota (1921, Ciechanów – 6 January 1945)[1] or Róża Robota in Polish,[2] referred to in other sources as Rojza, Rozia or Rosa, was the leader of a group of four women Holocaust resistors hanged [NOT GASSED] in the Auschwitz concentration camp for their role in the Sonderkommando prisoner revolt of 7 October 1944.

Auschwitz

The Sonderkommando Revolt caused some 70 fatalities among the SS and kapos, and blew the roof off one crematorium

Above is real history
Below is the zionist concocted conspiracy theory of course stated as fact!

It was clear to the Nazis that all evidence of the war-time atrocities had to be concealed, so the Germans attempted to destroy the other four crematoria themselves.

There is NO evidence what so ever to support the bullshit stories these Zionist scumbags promote that nazis tried to destroy evidence, in fact the records were found very much intact.

These Zionist historical entries are all shrouded in deceit that only fools the people who severely lack critical thinking skills.

 

Thanks for the clarification.
I don't know why I believed @yardmeat when he said that the Germans demolished the alleged "gas chambers".

Regarding the other alleged homicidal gas chamber at Auschwitz 1, I don't know why anyone would be gullible enough to believe that the very well organized & efficient Germans would locate a mass gas chamber capable of gassing hundreds of people at a time next to a frequently used office building and across from a hospital. ( a hospital in a "Death Camp"?!?)
As I said earlier, the leaking cyanide fumes would at least sicken anyone walking nearby and the very public location is hardly in keeping with a "secret genocide".
Keep up the good work.

 

I have seen pictures of the one corpse ovens in the concentration camps. Right now, In Wuhan, they have 84 furnaces and they can only roast 1,560 bodies per day. They would still be cooking corpses in the WWII ovens.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...nds-of-urns-with-coronavirus-remains-each-day

 

Thanks for the information.
I suspect that today's Chinese cremation ovens (muffles) are more efficient than WW 2 era muffles so this is further evidence that the specious claims generated by the Holocaust Industry and mindlessly parroted by disciples of holocaustianity are blatantly false.

According to holocaustian mythology, 20,000 people could be gassed and cremated per day at Auschwitz-Birkenau(1).

Since even a slightly informed person with a modicum of common sense knows that is physically impossible, holocaustians have fabricated outright lies about cremating 3 bodies in less time, bodies that burn with no fuel and huge burn pits where little or no fuel was available.

The simple truth is that the human body is about 75% water, WW 2 era cremation ovens (aka muffles) can only burn one body at a time (3 bodies would take over 3 times as long) and each body requires about 100 kilos of coal/coke and 4-6 hours to cremate(2).

Allied Air reconnaissance indicates that there was never enough coal/coke at Auschwitz-Birkenau for even 500 bodies per day and the water table at Auschwitz-Birkenau is too high to permit burning bodies in pits.

It is claimed in holocaustian mythology that about 1.1 million people were murdered at Auschwitz-Birkenau but since there are no mass graves containing anywhere near that number, holocaustians must fabricate outrageous lies to account for the discrepancy.




(1) “THE CAMPS”
https://www.bxscience.edu/ourpages/auto/2012/3/1/36224384/holocaust - the camps.htm

EXCERPT “ One group went to the gas chambers within a few hours; these people were sent to the Birkenau camp, where more than 20,000 people could be gassed and cremated each day. “ CONTINUED


(2) “The Problem of Cremator Hours and Incineration Time”
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v02/v02p219_Buchner.html

EXCERPTS:
“3. Multiple Charge

With the above in mind, one can also immediately understand why multiple charge -- 2 or 3 corpses stacked together as claimed in the Holocaust theory (see for example F. Müller[9] page 17) -- will not produce shorter incineration times. Nobody knew anymore how long a cremation took back then but the 4 to 6 hours for coal-fired cremators appeared acceptable to today's crews.

4. Incineration Time

In 1946 the incineration time in coal-fired cremators was about 4 to 6 hours. [6] The variation is caused by different physical sizes of the corpses but also by the condition of the tissue.

7. Some Other Technical Points

But if one assumes 100 kg (220 lb) of coal per corpse (which may be insufficient) even 250,000 cremations would have required 25,000 tons. There are no storage or processing facilities known for larger amounts of fuel. One would expect at least railway tracks to have been extended directly up to the cremators. There were none.[25] There are not even simple mechanical unloading facilities (ramps or chutes for example) known either. Distributed over 20 months in Auschwitz II, 25,000 tons would have required more than 41 tons of manual handling of coal per day."CONTINUED

 

Rational people know that the lying con men are full of crap but it has become almost impossible to even express a minor doubt about their lies without getting beaten up. Since their story is nothing but a big lie they have made it impossible to even discuss it from a historical POV.

 

I'm well aware of the fact that many unquestioning and thoroughly brainwashed disciples of the holocaustian cult become hysterical when you question the tenets of their mythology. You could slander their mother in the most vulgar terms and get a calmer response.

It's helpful to remember that, according to the ADL,(1) only about 1/3 of the world's population actually believes nonsense about "mass gassings", "6 million Jews killed", "homicidal steam chambers", human "vaporizers", the "Conveyor Belt of Death"(2) and other of the most grisly fantasies.
That means that of the people who have heard of the well marketed holocaust, far more people do not believe the profit driven lies and gruesome myths that the international, multi-billion dollar Holocaust Industry has been frantically peddling through its complicit MSM for decades.

I think that it is at least naive to think that only the "other" side uses propaganda and Hollywood has been working with the Holocaust Industry since before the term "Holocaust" was created(3)

I am grateful to the staff of this forum for allowing us to discuss this topic openly and honestly.
After all, the truth welcomes the sunlight of open discussion and honest examination while a lie can only survive in the darkness of repressive censorship.


Re:

Go ahead and speak your mind. I think that most people recognize that slander says more about the person doing the slandering than it does about the person being slandered.




(1). ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

EXCERPT “Only 54 percent of the world's population has heard of the Holocaust.

This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

- Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

- people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED



(2) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED



(3) "The Hollywood Directors Who Filmed the Liberation of Nazi Concentration Camps"
https://hyperallergic.com/426644/lamoth-filming-the-camps-the-holocaust/

EXCERPT "George Stevens, John Ford, and Samuel Fuller, best known for their work in Hollywood, all documented the Allied liberation at the end of the war.

But during this period of war, they were acting less as artists than as functionaries of US propaganda and information efforts, working for the US Armed Forces and Secret Services.CONTINUED

 

Official German Record of Prisoners in Auschwitz Concentration Camp, May 1940 through December 1944

The following derives from the prisoner records of Auschwitz camp from May 1940 through December 1944 in the Glücks complete Concentration Camp microfilm records now located in the Russian Central Archives, Central State Archives No. 187603, Rolls 281–286, as follows:

Roll 281, 1940: Frames 107–869
Roll 282, 1940–41: Frames 001–875
Roll 283, 1941–42: Frames 001–872
Roll 284 1942–43: Frames 003–862
Roll 285, 1943–44: Frames 019–852
Roll 286, 1945: Frames 001–329.

Total number of inmates in Auschwitz, 1940–1944: 334,785
Administrative Executions at Auschwitz, 1940–1944

Total Poles executed: 1,485
Total Jews executed: 117
Total Russians executed: 19
Total Czechs executed: 5
Total Gypsies executed: 20
Total number of inmates executed: 1,646

Total transferred from Auschwitz, 1940–1944: 121,453

Total deaths by typhus in Auschwitz, 1941–1944: 103,429

Total non-Jews in Auschwitz, 1940–1944: 161,785

Total non-Jewish deaths by typhus in Auschwitz, 1941–1944: 45,189

Deaths by natural causes (other than typhus), 1940–1944: 4,140


Total Jews in Auschwitz, 1941–1944: 173,000

Total Jewish deaths by typhus in Auschwitz, 1942–1944: 58,240

Total Jewish deaths by natural causes (other than typhus), 1941–1944: 2,064

Total number of Jews transferred from Auschwitz, 1941–1944: 100,743

Hungarian Jews remaining in Auschwitz after October 1944: 1,590


Summary of Jewish prisoners in the Auschwitz camp system, 1941–1944
.................................................................................................. IN ....... OUT
Jewish prisoners entering the Auschwitz camp system........ 173,000
Jewish prisoners who died of typhus....................................................... 58,240
Jewish prisoners who died of natural causes.......................................... 2,064
Jewish prisoners executed.......................................................................... 117
Jewish prisoners transferred to other camps......................................... 100,743

TOTALS................................................................................ IN-173,000 OUT-161,164

lets see now, from the russian micro fiche

173,000-161,164 = ONLY 12,000 Jews died at Auschwitz

6,000,000 - 12,000 = 5,988,164.00 Gassed Jew death toll mistake wtf?


Dr Germar Rudolf, arrested in the US extradited to germany to stand trial for exposing J-W lies, the 5.9million Jew overcount. When J-Ws rule,
THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU IN PRISON FOR LIFE!


Food for thought, if all they had to do was gazzem, why did they have executions by hanging?

Doesnt sound like german ingenuity to me, sounds more like more J-W LIES.

Suckers!

 

oops, brainfart, to late to edit, that should have been 173,000 IN - 100,743 OUT = 72,257 Jews DIED

58,240 died from typhus, the majority of them were infected with the disease prior to entering the camps and would have died anyway, but why take any accountability when you can blame it all on hitler!

So if all they had to do was gazzem, why did they have over 1600 executions by hanging, only 117 were Jews? wtf? Only 117? out of 1600+? wtf?

Wow 117 Jews executed, hitlers antisemetic genocidal hatred is clear, definitely out to exterminate ALL Jews!

 

Thanks for the excellent and detailed information however you're not likely to hear any form of rebuttal from the holocaustians who have been brainwashed into mindlessly parroting "6 million Jews killed" over and over.

Please provide a source for the information that you just posted

It looks like the heavily suppressed, original 1946 Red Cross report has been right all along.



"INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS (IRC) DOCUMENT CONFIRMS 271 THOUSAND NOT 6 MILLION DIED IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS"
https://archive.org/details/auschwitz_201905
EXCERPTS:
"OFFICIAL INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS RECORDS RELEASED

Sealed and guarded since the end of WWII at Arolsen, Germany, the Official IRC records reveal the actual Concentration Camp total death toll was 271,301

For years, people around the world – “the West” in particular – have been told that “six million Jews were systematically murdered by Germans in ‘Concentration Camps’ during World War 2.”

Thousands of honest people disputing this claim have been viciously smeared as a hateful anti-Semite. Several countries around the world have jailed and heavily fined people for disputing the claim that “6 Million” Jews were killed.

Red Cross and East German government figures put the total deaths at every camp as 272.000, and 282,000 respectively which includes homosexuals, communists, gypsies, murderers, paedophiles etc. The 6 Million figure is a Kabbalist number, a magickal figure which featured in news papers in the early 1900’s." CONTINUED

 

The 6 million is purely a fraud.

The zionists were talking about having their holocaust long before the outbreak of war. Another in a long line of marxi-commie-Zionist 'J-W' prophesies! We have recordings!



Aside from the 2 bozos in the middle talking about the havaara which is true, much else that those 2 dipwits ramble on about is nothing more than bar room stupidity. Barring that part its an excellent video that ties together a 'few' of the several key points about how these wars took place and the injustices be dished out by J-Ws to this day.

What blows me away is how Jews today are willing to support the zionist J-Ws that stabbed them in the back just like they did hitler.

Lots of quotes in that video from the perps.

Enjoy!

 

You've seen countless pictures of people in Nazi concentration camps but have you ever actually looked at them and seen the lie? Google some and look at them.

What you will see is that the Jews have special clothes and that they are on the plump side and appear to be in reasonably good health. They are all smiles and grins and happy as can be.

The other people are assumed to be Jews but are they really? They are skin and bones in ragged clothes. We know that there were other ethnicities and other groups in the concentration camps. Is there any actual proof that these people are actually Jews? I don't think there is. Is the con in plain sight but people can't see it because they have been brainwashed to believe the lie?

 

My grandfather was in a prison camp. Please stop spreading this BS. Think critically. Do real research. Stop copy/pasting what the denialist blogs tell you to believe.

 

There is no record of it, please post your proof.

Spread the 'J-W as victims' holohoax BS instead.

Hitler's young Jewish friend



According to the auction website, Rosa and her mother had joined the crowds outside Hitler's Alpine retreat Berghof in 1933 on his birthday.

It is thought that when he discovered Rosa had the same birthday, he invited Rosa and her mother Karoline up to the house - where these photographs were taken.

Not long afterwards, it was discovered that Karoline's mother had been Jewish, making Rosa Jewish in the eyes of the Nazi state.

But this did not dissuade Hitler from carrying on his friendship with girl, to whom he had sent a signed copy of the photograph.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46192941

Parrot holohoax propaganda!

Go to only J-W sites if you want the truth!

Believe the BS yardmeats leader tells you!

​

SOME EVENTS TAKE PLACE BUT ARE NOT TRUE, OTHER EVENTS ARE [true], ALTHOUGH THEY NEVER OCCURRED ~J-W Elie the Weasel

But Elie you low down no good for **** weasel, "THAT MEANS YOU ARE TELLING LIES!" ~Rabbi

Narrator: But thats not the truth.

"I KNOW ITS A LIE
BUT IN MY IMAGINATION IT WAS TRUE"​

​

OK Im critically thinking, yep all lies!​

​

 

Revisiting this for a second to try to give more benefit of the doubt, but think about what you are claiming here for a moment. Just think. Think critically instead of parroting what you've been told by the neo-Nazi bloggers.

1) It isn't hard to find images of emaciated prisoners during the Holocaust. It isn't hard to find images of prisoners who were not "plump" and were not "in reasonably good health." Any remotely honest person (perhaps an impossibility among denialists) can admit this.

2) When you see pictures of people who seem happy . . . when were those pictures taken and who were they of? For one thing, not every camp was a death camp. For another (and brace yourself for this) people tend to be pretty happy when they are liberated from cruel tyranny. Claiming they must not have been treated so bad because they look happy when they were liberated is, quite possibly, the dumbest argument ever posed on these forums.

3) No one is claiming that Nazi camps had a magic spell cast over them that would make anyone who entered them become emaciated, no matter what condition they arrived in. Yet your "point" assumes this must be the case. Think about this some more. Just because someone was "plump" at some point upon entering does not mean they weren't killed and it doesn't mean they weren't later starved. You are smart enough to know this. Think harder.

4) We have plenty of other evidence that there were death camps, none of which has been successfully refuted here, even with the swimming pool lie and the flimsy wooden door lie. These are fake arguments meant to dupe useful idiots.

 

Among the countless holocaust survivors, and WW2 Veterans from both sides of the European I have known, lived with and worked with over 7 decades, not one of them confirms any facet of what has become the standard, fraudulent holocaust narrative.

For example, a "White Russian" (vs "Red Russian) who was a close friend & neighbor spent time in the captivity of all the major armies and recalls that she received better treatment in the hands of the Germans than anyone else. Regrettably, numerous stories like hers have been heavily censored by the influential, multi-billion dollar Holocaust Industry-Lobby and its complicit Western MSM so that Hollywood educated holocaustians have been effectively brainwashed into believing hyperbolic rubbish about "death camps", homicidal gas chambers and other fictitious creations of Allied propagandists.

Until recently, the same professionally brainwashed members of the holocaust cult were confidently regurgitating Allied propaganda lies about "human skin pocketbooks", "human skin lampshades", "human fat soap", human "vaporizers"(1), homicidal steam chambers, homicidal electrocution chambers, a "Conveyor Belt of Death"(2).
Today, the same gullible holocaustians are just as confidently regurgitating similar Allied propaganda lies about "homicidal gas chambers", "6 million Jews murdered" and a mythical genocidal agenda even though not one, single order from Hitler for the destruction of Europe's Jews existed or exists(3).

Re:

I would ask of you the same favor since reciting the same Holocaust Industry-Lobby and complicit Western MSM that lied about "human skin pocketbooks", and "Conveyor Belts of Death" etc is just as dishonest, today, when it promulgates similar Allied propaganda about "death camps", homicidal gas chambers, 6 million Jews murdered etc.

As the cruel Zionist carnage in Palestine has shown, the motive behind the crass and transparent marketing of "THE Holocaust®" is not the noble sounding mission of promoting a humanitarian sounding "Never Again".
It is just a self serving & fraudulent agenda to relentlessly extort $ Billions to build more & more profitable holocaust theme parks, continuously demonize Germany & the German people & deflect criticism of Israeli atrocities, land theft and war crimes.

Thanks,




(1) "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"
http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED


(2) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death"
https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/

EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED


(3) “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.”

- Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190

 

https://www.history.com/news/how-the-nazis-tried-to-cover-up-their-crimes-at-auschwitz
http://auschwitz.org/en/history/auschwitz-and-shoah/the-demolition-of-the-gas-chambers

You yourself admitted that cyanide fumes were used in this building, you just claim they were used on dead people instead of living people. So you either need to walk that admission back or admit it is not as much of a problem as you are pretending it would be.

As far as screams go, not much of a problem in an airtight room.

The "gullible tourists" are more informed on this subject than you are, and I've already debunked the "flimsy wooden doors" lie. The Nazis did destroy the active gas chambers. There were other gas chambers that had already been repurposed and hadn't been used as gas chambers for years. Those are the ones you are likely referring to when you talk about windows and wooden doors.

Also, your own link debunked the "drain line" nonsense.

And, again, YOU ADMIT CYANIDE WAS USED IN THIS BUILDING. How do you keep forgetting that?

They did attempt to destroy the active gas chambers. They dismantled others. Others had been repurposed.

Nothing except the chambers themselves and the physical evidence they've left behind. But you've also shown your hand. One minute you are asking why they left so much evidence behind and the next you are asking why there was no evidence. Make up your mind.

We have the blueprints. We have the buildings themselves and the physical evidence they've left behind. And we have the eye witnesses. This is a fake complaint. As fake as the "flimsy wooden doors" argument, as fake as the swimming pool argument, as fake as the "but the gas is explosive" argument, all of which I've debunked on this thread.

 

A small faction of prisoners blew it up, not the nazis, please stop posting lies.

A plastic bag is air tight too. More J-W loony logic.

So was bleach, which is just as deadly, so what? You have proven nothing other than you love to post piles of bullshit rants.

Hate to break it to you but you need to post at a minimum evidence to debunk anything, your spin isnt enough.

Again they did not, why do you insit on constantly posting lies.

again so your spin 'says' everyone is waiting for evidence

SO WAS BLEACH, proves nothing.

FCK HOW MANY TIMES YOU GOING TO REPEAT THAT SAME ****ING LIE? The J-Ws blew it up, NOT THE NAZIS, Its all been posted before so stop pretending.

How many time you going to repeat the same ****?

Good post them. Especially the ones you claim with the holes in the roof. Its all bullshit you have nothing to show but foaming at the mouth.

another repeat PLONK

That when dragged into court have all been proven liars.

3rd time for that lie too, PLONK

 

Yes we know you can tell because they have "Im a J-W, I was gassed" tatooed on the forehead and you did a body count.

Your comprehensive research is nothing short of brilliant!

 

No when Irvine went to court it was proved he was a Holocaust denier and that the Holocaust actually happened, I would trust a British court over an antisemite any day.

On the issue of Auschwitz, the judge said the central question to be determined in the case was whether or not the evidence supported the defendants' contention that the number of deaths ran into hundreds of thousands or whether Mr Irving was right when he claimed that the killing by gas was on a modest scale.

He commented: "I have to confess that, in common I suspect with most other people, I had supposed that the evidence of mass extermination of Jews in the gas chambers at Auschwitz was compelling.

"I have, however, set aside this preconception when assessing the evidence adduced by the parties in these proceedings." He said it appeared to him that the cumulative effect of the documentary evidence for the genocidal operation of gas chambers at Auschwitz was "considerable".

He concluded: "Having considered the various arguments advanced by Irving to assail the effect of the convergent evidence relied on by the defendants, it is my conclusion that no objective, fair-minded historian would have serious cause to doubt that there were gas chambers at Auschwitz and that they were operated on a substantial scale to kill hundreds of thousands of Jews.

"In the result therefore the defence of justification succeeds".

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2000/apr/11/irving.uk

 

and the only reason he lost the case is because the dumbass had no legal experience what so ever and thought he could be his own attorney.

In a 'real' court with 'real' attorneys and a 'proper' defense team, the french court stated there it is physically impossible that the holocaust gassing of J-Ws could have taken place, and the court added that anyone claiming it did take place is highly suspect.

You have been show the citations, yet you post lies.

 

Yes dear, I see you have gone into full denier mode, it wasn't a real court! he would of won if he had not represented himself, anything to deny the truth as stated in a court of law!

 

I was hoping that you would respond to my most recent post rather than finally responding to the one I wrote on 5 April but even though @Kokomojojo has already debunked most of what you have claimed, I will still attempt to clarify some of what has confused you.

You still haven't explained why the extremely well organized Germans would locate a homicidal gas chamber directly across from the Auschwitz hospital and right next door to the Gestapo hospital when the fumes from toxic gas would sicken or kill anyone walking nearby that heavy trafficked area.

I do not admit that cyanide gas was frequently used in what was primarily a morgue. If trace elements of cyanide gas were found on the walls, it was only because pesticides such as Zyklon B was used by the Allies as well as the Germans to delouse rooms, clothes, blankets etc. to prevent the spread of typhus.

Nowhere have you debunked the fact that the morgue/fake "gas chamber" had windows and flimsy wooden doors that would have been destroyed by "hundreds of people being gassed".

Re:

Again, the morgue/fake "gas chamber" was not now nor was it ever airtight. There is no evidence that there was anything but flimsy wooden doors and easily broken windows in that room.

Kokomojojo has already shown several times that the demolished buildings were not destroyed by the Germans but by prisoners in the prisoner revolt of 1944.
If millions of people were gassed in a few short years, hundreds of homicidal gas chambers would have been required, however, not one exists or ever existed.

Re:

None of the links I posted debunks the fact that the drain lines from the Auschwitz morgue/fake "gas chamber" are tied into the existing camp drain lines.

Re:

No "we" don't:

"Auschwitz Expert: Blueprints Found in Berlin Not of Death Camp"
https://www.haaretz.com/1.5056721
EXCERPT "Van Pelt also said the words "gas chamber" on one of the drawings meant a room in which disinfection of clothing was done by means of gas, and that the sketch is not of an extermination camp established in 1942, but rather of earlier plans for a huge concentration camp in which a force of 130,000 slave laborers was intended to work.

Van Pelt suggested the plans might be fakes, motivated by the lucrative market in Nazi memorabilia and documents."CONTINUED

The rest of your comment is comprised of empty claims to have debunked this, that, and the other elsewhere in this thread and that you have "eyewitnesses"

However:
EXCERPT "French historian Germain Tillion, a specialist of the Second World War period, has warned that former camp inmates who lie are, in fact, very much more numerous than people generally suppose, and a subject like that of the concentration camp world -- well designed, alas, to stimulate sado-masochistic imaginations -- offered them an exceptional field of action.

We have known numerous mentally damaged persons, half-swindlers and half fools, who exploited an imaginary deportation. We have known others of them -- authentic deportees -- whose sick minds strove to even go beyond the monstrosities that they had seen or that people said happened to them.

Jewish historian Samuel Gringauz, who was himself interned in the ghetto of Kaunas (Lithuania) during the war, criticized what he called the "hyperhistorical" nature of most Jewish "survivor testimony." He wrote that "most of the memoirs and reports are full of preposterous verbosity, graphomanic exaggeration, dramatic effects, overestimated self-inflation, dilettante philosophizing, would-be lyricism, unchecked rumors, bias, partisan attacks and apologies."CONTINUED (1)


(1) "The Nuremberg Trials and the Holocaust"
https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p167_Webera.html

 

I'll take Koko off of iggy long enough to cover whatever "debunking" you think he did.

And you haven't explained why you admit that toxic gases WERE used in the building in question while also making the mutually exclusive claim that doing so would have been deadly to everyone in the surrounding area.

Your position is both false and self-contradicting.

You already admitted traces were found on the walls, no use backpeddling now. And you still haven't addressed your contradiction. Delousing takes a HIGHER concentration of Zyklon B than does using it to kill people. Obviously it could be safely used in the building without killing folks outside. By your own admission. So we can stop that fake argument.

The only evidence of "flimsy" doors or large windows provided by the denialists are of later additions after the buildings were remodeled and no longer used as gas chambers. The actual doors were air-tight, had steel caging over the peepholes (something no morgue would ever need), and could not be unlocked from the inside.

None of this makes sense for a mere morgue.

That's Koko's "debunking"?

Okay, serious question here: are you aware of the fact that, when there is more than one building, it is possible for different things to happen to different buildings and different times? Please tell me you are smart enough to realize that.

If you had read my links (and thanks for admitting you didn't), you would have seen that, yes, what Koko says is true for Crematorium IV, but not Crematoria II, III, or V.

Please read.

http://auschwitz.org/en/history/auschwitz-and-shoah/the-demolition-of-the-gas-chambers
"As part of the overall liquidation of the evidence of crime, crematoria II and III together with their gas chambers were partially dismantled in late 1944, and blown up in January 1945. Crematorium IV was partially burned during the Sonderkommando mutiny on October 7, 1944, and later dismantled. Crematorium V functioned until the very end, and was blown up on January 26, 1945, the day before the liberation of the camp."

The Sonderkommando revolt happened in 1944. Some of the buildings weren't blown up until 1945. Unless you are accusing the Jews of time travel, the "debunking" makes no sense.

Welp, glad we showed how intellectually lazy and fact-free that "debunking" was.

Tens of thousands of Jews died at Auschwitz, not millions. And no one claims that was all through the gas chambers.

Welp, we covered the fact that you didn't read my links, and now it looks like you haven't read yours.

Here was your link: https://furtherglory.wordpress.com/tag/floor-drain-in-auschwitz-gas-chamber/

Here's the relevant quote: "Note that virtually everything that Fred wrote is what I have been trying to communicate through my blog for over two years.

Except for one tiny detail: 'the floor drain in the alleged [Auschwitz] gas chamber' is included in the reconstructed gas chamber that is shown to tourists, but this drain was originally inside a washroom in the gas chamber building in the main camp."

The drain was in a washroom in the same building. It wasn't in the actual gas chamber. Per your own source.

I may go over the rest later.