Jewish groups' reckless accusations of 'anti-Semitism' sets us down a dangerous path

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  1. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

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    Every quote I have posted is DIRECTLY FROM THE TALMUD ITSELF.

    Sorry to disappoint you.
     
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    Yetzerhara Banned

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    Your decision to come on this board and engage in passing off false quotes from the Talmud speaks
    to your agenda of inciting hatred against Jews.

    I directly accuse you of making up false passages of the Talmud you obtained from a neo Nazi web site and now
    dump on this thread in a blatant attempt to suggest we Jews as sexually deviant, etc.

    If people think your tactic of false quoting the Talmud is new, lets expose it shall we yet again:

    http://archive.adl.org/presrele/asus_12/the_talmud.pdf

    The above article was created to specifically address the tactic you use to make false quotes against the Talmud as an exercise of inciting hatred against Jews.

    I also wish to be crystal clear and state in absolute terms- the passages you quoted from the Talmud do not exist and people can go to the actual Talmud and find the real wording.

    I also expose your false quotes by asking people in addition to going to the actual Talmud to go to the following site which was designed
    like the ADL article above to address each and every false quote of the Talmud people like you Sam redistribute on forums:

    http://talmud.faithweb.com/articles/intro.html

    Your actual thread started with a accusation that Jewish groups made reckless accusations of anti Semitism. You never defined these groups or provided the words they said.

    What you have shown is you made false quotes accusing we Jews of being sexually perverted.

    The device of attacking Israel and interposing it on attacks against Jews also illustrates how discussion on Jews by Jew haters turns into attacks on Israel's existence.

    While I wish to make clear not all criticism of Israeli state policies are anti semitic, unintentionally and ironically your thread shows how hatred of Israel is interposed with hatred of Jews and further how referring to Israel is used as a pretext to attack Jews for being Jews.

    Make no mistake what you and your colleagues do when responding on this thread is to attack Jews for being Jews. You attack me and every other Jew because we are Jews and then complain you are being personally attacked.

    Anything else?
     
  3. SamSkwamch

    SamSkwamch Banned

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    Stop mischaracterizing my posts. Every single quote is from the tamud itself. If I am wrong, you should have no problem using the quote function to back these ridiculous, slanderous remarks.
     
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    No they are absolutely and utterly false.

    In fact to make it easy for readers to se how false your quotes are they can go to this site and follow this table of contents to see the repudiation of each and every false quote:

    talmud.faithweb.com

    Table Of Contents

    About The Talmud
    The Real Truth About The Talmud: Why does this site exist?
    What Is The Talmud?: An explanation of the history and content of the Talmud
    Talmud and Bible: Is the Talmud holier than the Bible?
    Jewish People: Is Judaism a religion or a race?
    To Tell The Truth: Are Jews commanded to lie about the Talmud?
    Gentiles In Judaism: Where do gentiles fit into the Jewish world view?
    What is a Jew? (Wikipedia entry)

    Alleged Racism In The Talmud
    Gentiles Are Human: The Talmud does not consider gentiles to be sub-human
    Gentiles Are Human 2: The Talmud does not consider gentiles to be animals
    Stealing From Gentiles: The Talmud forbids stealing from gentiles
    Paying A Gentile's Wages: The Talmud prohibits Jews from withholding a gentile's wages
    Tricking Gentiles: The Talmud forbids lying to gentiles
    Killing Gentiles: The Talmud prohibits killing gentiles
    Various Accusations: Refuting various accusations against the Talmud

    Christianity In The Talmud
    Introduction
    Jesus In The Talmud: What, if anything, does the Talmud say about Jesus?
    The Jesus Narrative: Does the Talmud's narrative of events correspond or differ from the Gospels'?
    Christianity: What does the Talmud have to say about Christianity in general?

    Jewish Holidays
    Blood Libel: Jews never eat blood
    Passover: The Passover Haggadah is not racist
    Kol Nidrei: Permission to deceive?

    Immorality In The Talmud
    The Talmud Does Not Permit Sex With A Three Year Old
    Sexual Morality in the Talmud: The Talmud's prudence
    Rabbi Eleazar and the Prostitutes: The Full Story

    Miscellaneous
    Schindler's List: The source of the disputed quotation
    Israel Shahak's Lie: "A Modern Blood Libel" by Rabbi Dr. Immanuel Jakobovits, former Chief Rabbi of the British Empire (Offsite)
    "In The Image Of G-d": Gentiles are created in the image of G-d
    "Goy": Is it a derogatory term used by Jews about gentiles?
    Rabbi Soloveitchik: Refuting the slander against him
    Ethics Of The Fathers: The section of the Mishnah dedicated to the favorite ethical sayings of the sages
     
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    SamSkwamch Banned

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    I posted none of that. Use the quote function.

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    Yup, it seems your post was both true and prophetic lol.
     
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    That is the kind of (*)(*)(*)(*) I hear from my tongue-talking Charismatic Christian sister.
    And what did America do to deserve the Hispanic invasion?
    I don't believe God is a personal God, so I adamantly disagree with your claim to be God's chosen people. The omnipotent and unknowable God of the universe would not be so petty as to pick favorites.
    Besides, you have not a wit of evidence to prove you are the people of the Bible.
     
  7. SamSkwamch

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    Like this from Likkutei Sichos, which contains both the scope and the core of the teachings of the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson which was posted by the loving folks at noahide.com themselves?

    "...according to the known Jewish ruling that Christians are idol worshippers." (Likkutei Sichos 37:198)


    And this from Maimonides which was also posted by the loving folks at noahide.com themselves?

    "A gentile...is liable for the death penalty...if he has invented a religious holiday for himself...The general principle is we do not allow them to make new religious rituals and to make 'mitzvahs' for themselves by their own devices. Rather they may either become a Ger Tzeddek and accept all the Mitvahs; or he (the Noahide) should stand fast in his Torah (the seven Noahide Laws) without adding or diminishing...and if he does make some new 'mitzvah,' we lash him, punish him, and inform him that he is obligated with the death penalty for this..." (Rambam Mishne Torah—Hilchos Melachim 10:9)
    http://www.noahide.com/infiltration/xmas.htm

    Now go back to rule 1: KNOW THE STORY YOU ARE SUPPORTING!

    Total fail!

    They are not in the Quran, the new testament, or even in our Torah... ONLY IN THE TALMUD!
     
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    Talmud is not law anywhere.
     
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    Uh huh, and you quoted the blog.
     
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    It's not law in any state Sam. Much less Israel.
     
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    several of the Noahide laws are in the New Testament.

    The Book of Acts, Chapter 15

    19 “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”

    The Council’s Letter to Gentile Believers
    22 Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers. 23 With them they sent the following letter:

    The apostles and elders, your brothers,

    To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:

    Greetings.

    24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.



    More of the Noahide Laws are in the book of Genesis, 9:

    4 “But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it.

    5 And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each human being, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of another human being.





    ...that's 5 of the Noahide Laws, right there
     
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    so you oppose Judaism.

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    anti-Semitism is a ignorant, sick, and twisted ideology mostly held by folks who have low self-esteem and/or self-hatred.

    it is manifested mostly due to old religious grievances, more recent flawed pseudo-scientific racial ideas, and bigoted stereotyping.
     
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    Not the law in any country Sam. Just trying to justify hatred of an entire ethno relegios group.
     
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    LOL, YES! That is what they are doing. And not just one!
     
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    Now I have hit the prophecy trifecta today. I accurately predicted 6 months ago that two people were having an affair and one of them would eventually clean out their employer who was relying too heavily on them and giving them too much account access and found out today it happened exactly that way. I also predicted that the reason a relative was given a weird assignment on a committee a few months back was because they were planning on moving them to management, and today they got the offer. I should play a lottery number.....007 exact.
     
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    The Noahide Laws are not actual law in any country, not even Israel.

    suggesting they are, is nothing but anti-Semitic garbage
     
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    No Sam, you are trying to justify your antisemitism by saying it is law but it is not in any country. Return to Stormfront and leave the non hate filled people alone here to enjoy their weekend please
     
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    Somebow I doubt our IHR educated Stormfronter know this Ron but perhaps he will return to the echo chamber for a new direction.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    very silly to suggest the Noahide Laws, are actually codified into any nation's criminal or civil code and one can be arrested, detained, charged, and punished by a court of law in any country, for violating them.
     
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    so they are not actual laws, anywhere.

    thank you.
     
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    LOL you can't even spell my name and all you have to do is copy it from my posts Sam and now your argument morphs to how the US Christian based legal system is racist when in post o e you were quoting a Rabbi from Israel ......

    So factless you're a hoot Sam!

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    What country is this law from Sam?
     
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    this is a 1,500 year old opinion from a non-legally binding obscure Rabbi.

    its not the law anywhere on Earth. No one can be punished for violating this opinion.

    its no different than Martin Luther's 500 year-old call for all Jewish books, homes, Synagogues to be burned to the ground.
     
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    It is different and this posting from you and Bwedson causes anti-Semitism.

    And the Lubavitcher movement and Chabad are huge and it is they who promote this hateful, bigoted nonsense that you pretend to be against.

    Google them!

    No, nevermind, here you go:

    Today 4,000 full-time emissary families direct more than 3,300 institutions
    http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/36226/jewish/About-Chabad-Lubavitch.htm
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    when is the last time the Lubavitcher Movement and Chabad advocated child abuse and pedophilia?
     
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    No surprise an antisemite can't spell a name right in front of him so no need to take his opinions seriously.
     
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