For a long time, the liberal types supported the Jews because of their history of persecution. Now many of these same people hate the Jews because of the behavior of the Israelis. The oppressed became oppressors themselves, and they lost the sympathy of the people who are against oppression. We are seeing similar things with the feminist movement. For a long time the liberal types supported the women's cause because here was a group that behaved well, being oppressed by a group that behaved badly. But when women themselves behave in hideous ways, that loses their support. So now there is a strong movement against feminism and in some cases against women as such. And the feminists, having through their vicious behavior alienated the very kind of people who were most likely to support them, are faced with a very strong backlash that they may or may not be able to withstand. If women choose to be harpies, then people who want the world to be a better place will not support them. A person driven by fairness or kindness or wanting the world to be a better place will be most likely to see them the same way in which many liberals see the Israelis. They are a formerly oppressed population that has in many cases met and exceeded the patriarchy in viciousness; and there is no reason at all to fight alongside them. When Stalin is fighting Hitler, the solution is not to side with either one. So we have feminists claiming that not liking a woman – any woman – means being misogynistic. Meanwhile they are themselves hateful to many men and many women. And we have women claiming that men are “*******s who deserve to die” when they like them better thin than fat, even as they attack men who are in a bad mental shape and crack on to men in good one. We have people claiming physical beauty to be incompatible with strength or intelligence or spirituality and other good traits, and claiming their nastiness and their hatefulness to be strength, intelligence and spirituality. And we have women in female-run organizations attacking in their employees beauty, intelligence and willingness to work hard, then complaining about the glass ceiling. Sorry. If you are attacking winning qualities in your people, you will only lose. This having been stated, as much as possible should be done to fight domestic violence. This is not something that only affects the guilty; it also is a hideous problem for many people who are innocent. Most women living in such situations are not harpies. Many of them are good enough human beings. And it is rightful that they get all the support that they can get. So what is the rightful solution to all this? It is the rational solution. It is to see everything capable of choice as being capable of both good choice and bad choice. Pursuant that consideration, it is to support and reward good behavior and punish bad behavior. This is the case both with women and with men. Right now we see the opposite happening. On one side of town, violent and truly misogynistic men brutally abuse women who for the most part are better people than they are. On the other side of town, hideous harpies viciously attack the men who are the least likely to be misogynistic – men near liberal centers of culture and education. In both cases the bad guys win and the good guys lose. And this teaches everyone that it pays to be a jerk and that being good will get you mistreated. At the societal level, it creates an incentive toward wrongful conduct, resulting in there being more of it. Coming from that, I advocate what I call the economic solution. Support a large cross-cultural flux for intermarriage. Let women from first side of town get together with men from second side of town. Let women who are willing to be good to men and men who are willing to be good to women get with one another and form good relationships. And exercise an incentive upon the offending gender in each situation to improve their treatment of the other gender – or else see the other gender leave in large numbers to be with people who are willing to be good to them. I was in support of women's rights ever since I was three. But I have been slandered as a misogynist or worse. To these people: I refuse to be your punching bag. You want to fight misogynists, fight real ones. And believe me there are plenty of them, and they do not like me one bit. So if the feminists choose to be vicious, they will lose the support of people coming from the consideration of fairness or kindness or what makes the world a better place. And then they will have to fight real misogyny by themselves, without many others supporting them. Let them fight their own battles if they think that they are strong, smart and independent and that nobody else is. They don't need some supposed misogynist supporting them if that is their attitude. Right now there are many women who are choosing social conservatism willingly, and the people who claim unelected leadership over women are losing influence. This will continue to happen until they start thinking straight and realize what it requires for them to get the support that they need. I do not deserve as a man to be treated as if I was Ted Bundy. And my former wife did not deserve the abuse that she got while working for a woman-run organization. For feminism to regain the support that it needs, it will have to change its character. It will have to move away from viciousness and misandry and become a movement that seeks women's betterment without seeking men's ill. It will have to stop abusing compassion and goodwill to force an equivalent of totalitarianism. And it will have to behave rightfully both toward women and toward men while supporting rightful behavior on the part of both.
What is so sad is you don’t even realize how misogynistic you are . You show your contempt for strong women..you sound so threatened
I've known women who were genuinely strong. Women such as my grandmother, who was a Jewish woman who's lived through the Second World War while living under Stalin. She would show Western women the difference between strength and attitude. I am in no way threatened by her. I love her. I have contempt for bad attitude, not for strong women.
How did she western women the difference between strength and attitude? I laugh at “bad attitude”..aka not ladylike
Basically, there are some feminist-oriented women who think that they are the only strong women out there. They need to get out more. Maybe some of these women actually are strong; but they could not be stronger than my grandmother.
My grandmother wasn't especially ladylike, but she was very self-controlled. She was one of these people who don't start fights but can finish them. Once again, I find that kind of strength a lot more respectable than what we see encouraged by feminists today.
No, no, no, no. There is no other manifestation of female strenght than painting with period blood and no other act as empowering as catching an STD.
No, he's just trolling you thinking he's being clever and satirical when really he's just being ordinary and boring.
What a silly comment. There are many people who think they are the only strong people out there...like Donald trump. Maybe you ought to get out more and meet more feminists....you know, people men and women, who believe in gender equality I bet I am just as strong as your grandmother .....what changes did she make for women?
Feminists are self controlled.....much more than anti feminists. But unlike your grandmother we start fights and finish them. Maybe your grandmother was ok with getting paid less, maybe she was ok with not being able to get a credit card in her own name when she married, maybe she was ok with being denied admission to the best universities. ...maybe she didn’t care about title nine and girls getting educational scholarships on,y boys could get, maybe she didn’t care about a raped women not being believed, maybe she didn’t believe in birth control and reproductive freedom for women...and maybe she was content without seeing women on the Supreme Court....but unlike her I fought for these rights so my daughter and granddaughters take these liberties for granted, I was used to being told to act ladylike and the changes will happen.....well behaved women don’t make history ..we fight!
You know something, deriding another person for what they do or do not do according to your personal beliefs, is really rather sad. Does it make you feel like a bigger person? Your sanctimonious blathering is really undermining your position as a supposed feminist. Being a feminist believes in the equality of the sexes, not making other people the target of your own personality disfunction.
I am not sure what changes she made for women, but she was very active in Soviet Communist Party, which affirmed women's equality. In her relationship with her husband she was the clearly dominant party. She and my mother had a lot of conflict, with my grandmother being a Communist and my mother wanting to immigrate to United States. So there were two very strong-minded Taurus women with completely incompatible views.
In the Soviet Union, women had a lot of opportunities. She did PhD level work, but was denied a PhD because she was Jewish. Many of your causes are worth fighting for. I do want my daughter to have opportunities, she is a very smart and beautiful little girl.
