Forgive me , the nerve of me responding to demeaning of feminists...I should just be in. The kitchen cooking and knowing my place. My personal beliefs along with millions of other women and men. , helped changed the lives of women .I realize to you that demanding equal rights is a personality dysfunction, but this personality dysfunction is shared by millions. Then there is the other personality dysfunction and that is the insecure male who puts down people who fight for equality
Gee my Jewish grandparents came from Russia and their atories were a lot different your gramother sounds like an extraordinary woman Your daughter will have opportunities because of women like myself who fought for her to have them. She will have opportunities I never dreamt of. ...and hopefully it will be based on her being smart, not because she is beautiful An interesting point is that your grandmother was denied opportunities because she was Jewish and that is a similar problem women faced in this country because of the gender
Fair enough. I am willing to support you in getting opportunities for women. I would however like to point out that there are many women who get thwarted or abused by other women rather than by men, and I want my daughter to avoid negative attention from women who do not like it when women are beautiful.
This is an aspect of women that has nothing to do with feminism and seems to have always existed in the gender. Women can be extremely catty and vindictive to each other, especially in a work/professional setting based entirely on jealousy of appearance or skill but when both come into play the beautiful and skilled woman better have sharp claws and defensive devious mindset. My wife has dealt with this for decades and I have watched it happen almost everywhere she goes....fortunately she is a bad a$$ and the little biatches always get trounced.
Yes, this is a narrative which we must closely scrutinize. For example, the Jews were thrown out of Spain because they aided the Islamic invasion of Iberia, serving as garrison forces for the Muslim armies from the Maghreb. (Refer to Chaim Potok's Wanderings: A History of the Jews) They weren't thrown out because of some strange antisemitism that arose from nothing, or came from the Bible. The timing was that Jews were thrown out of Iberia when the Spaniards finally had enough strength to throw out their Islamic invaders and oppressors, and the Jews were thrown out with them due to their complicity. In that, the Jews completely deserved it. In modern discourse, of course, the Jews are always the innocent party, lashed at by irrational white crackers from every angle due to jealousy, as we're told white people can neither be victims nor have a legitimate group interest in anything, anywhere, while everyone else can. In reality, if any reasonable person were evicted from his place of residence over 100 times, he would look in the mirror and ask questions of himself and his own behavior rather than call the landlord jealous and out to get him every single time. Of course, we aren't dealing with reasonable people. Yes, there are certainly persecutions based on irrational reasons in history, but we've been taught to never explore the cultural attitude of diaspora Jewry and its contribution to hostile relations with gentiles around them, especially white people. What is going on now is that whites are told to unquestioningly accept them but Jews are not told to do the same toward white gentiles. My question is this: Why would I as a white gentile blindly accept a group of people many of whose members dislike and distrust me because of my ethnicity and religion who have a long track record of aiding aliens against us be it continental invasions by Islamic armies or hordes of low average IQ migrants from third world toilets that Israel openly refuses admittance to? It seems to me that Jews haven't changed that much since they helped the Muslims invade Iberia, and that's unfortunate. They like living around people of European background because of our better social structures and living standards, but they turn around and backbite and try to destroy, often because of their own prejudices against us and not anything we've actually done to them. And in the cases where someone actually did something to them, why not just leave and find a friendlier environment and not take those age-old prejudices with and unload them on some other population of whites due to a general common ancestry, for that's exactly what diaspora Jews are doing in much of the West.
There goes that misogyny again, we women”don’t like pretty women”....women are each other’s best friends. We have tighter bonds than men have, ....men get abused by other men in business all the time, but we don’t make it a gender thing. In my prejudice workshops I ask how many women have a best friend who they tell their deepest secrets to and almost every hand goes up. When I ask the men, I get about three hands. Women are good friends and sterotyping us a catty etc...just shows where you’re coming from. Seems you know very shallow women
Rewriting history? Jews were kicked out of Spain for not converting to Christianity I bet you don’t think you’re an anti Semite watch out we’re foing to backbite you
I speak on the basis of stories I heard by women - good, strong women - about their interaction with other women. One example was a social worker who worked for a female-run organization. She was smart, hard-working and beautiful, and she got attacked terribly in that organization. Another was a woman whose boyfriend's mother poisoned him against her, resulting in him becoming abusive. In neither case was the woman shallow; other women were. This is something that has to change if women are to advance. If you attack winning qualities - in this case, intelligence, beauty and willingness to work hard - you create a coercion toward loserhood, and you get out-competed. Whereas if you encourage winning qualities you stand to win.
What you don’t realize is your sexism. When a woman does something bad, you condemn the entire gender. When a black,person does something bad, we condemn the race...same with Muslims I also have to laugh how you blame a man who abused his girlfriend on his mother. You also mention beauty all the time, is that how you judge men , by their looks? I was told in the 70s something has to change for women to,advance.....I ignored men like you and we got so much..we advanced despite people with your attitude .
No, I do not condemn the entire gender. There are many women whom I respect, including the women in examples I gave. The situation of which I spoke was not unique. My half-sister married a man whose mother did not like her, and his mother manipulated him into being nasty to her. Thankfully my half-sister had guidance from her knowledgeable and intelligent mother and was able to leave him before he did anything truly bad. Regarding beauty, it is something that I value in much besides women. I value beauty in nature and art. I heard a priest say that men are visual and response to visual cues and women are auditory and response to words. I do not consider myself to be physically attractive, but I am good at producing poetry, as you can see in the Creative Corner. My contribution to beauty in the world is my poetry; somebody else's is her looks.
You give these trite examples and are condemning women as the bad ones. What about the fathers who disapprove? You also give an example of a weak man who was abusive but you blame the mother You use beauty to objectify way too often
Laughably pathetic post filled with the usual right wing projections and hate. The vast majority of Jews identify themselves as liberals which easily belies the myths the OP is saying here. As for Jewish feminists, my favorite historical figure here was Hannah Solomon: One time she invited several of her male critics to dinner and gave them such a fabulous meal that they immediately stopped criticizing her.
Especially outside of Israel. In Israel itself, they've established a form of government that would be branded "NAZI" if gentile whites did it. Quite a self-serving lot.
I condemn whoever is doing the wrong. In the cases I mentioned, it was women. Regarding beauty, once again, I value it in everything, including things such as nature and art. I do like beauty in women, but it's a part of a larger ethic of appreciating beauty and contributing to beauty in the world.
No it wasn’t the woman. You said her son abused his wife....that was his fault, not the mothers. I agree about beauty but when one values women for their beauty and not their brain, it is sexist.
Oh if on,y you were upset at Hamas who doesn’t do,**** for their people. Many Arabs go to the colleges in Israel and get treated in their hospitals. What do they get I. The land given to them?
Oh yeah, I am a right-winger. I am such a right-winger that I volunteered for Howard Dean campaign, promote a clean energy invention (htnresearch.com) and have spent a lot of time addressing the wrongful attitudes of many on the Right. With the Jews, there is a big split between American Jews, most of whom are liberals, and Israeli Jews, many of whom are fascists. Both get attacked, frequently by the same people, showing mainly that the people who are doing the attacks are full of crap.
I've been attacked as a Zionist by a left-wing feminist. As for feminists being harpies, maybe they've gotten their act together since then, but in 1990s they were complete harpies and were attacking everything.
This is incredible...you are spewing misogynistic rhetoric, lumped women as one . I met a Christian man who raped four women. Maybe men have gotten their acts together and don’t rape women...(sarcasm alert)
I wasn't writing about women as one, I was writing about one brand of feminism. Nothing misogynistic here.
