Joe Biden wants to ban all semi auto firearms

Another study worth considering that examines the effectiveness of bans on large capacity magazines:

"Results. Between 1990 and 2017, there were 69 high-fatality mass shootings. Attacks involving LCMs resulted in a 62% higher mean average death toll. The incidence of high-fatality mass shootings in non-LCM ban states was more than double the rate in LCM ban states; the annual number of deaths was more than 3 times higher. In multivariate analyses, states without an LCM ban experienced significantly more high-fatality mass shootings and a higher death rate from such incidents.
Conclusions. LCM bans appear to reduce both the incidence of, and number of people killed in, high-fatality mass shootings."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31622147/

 

Yup, he wants to ban the vast bulk of the weapons that democrat CCW holders carry. Will that worry them that maybe gun control could go too far? I guess we'll see if they keep voting for it...

 

You fail to understand that the fact the numbers went down during the ban does not prove your claim that the ban reduced the numbers.
At this point, its clear this failure to understand is willful,.

 

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LOL. Just more inconvenient coincidences for your side?

 

"In a recent study, US states without large-capacity magazine (LCM) bans had more high-fatality mass shootings and higher death rates during these assaults. The findings, recently detailed in the American Journal of Public Health, could support banning these efficient ammunition-feeding devices.

"Military-style 'assault weapons' get a lot of attention from policy makers and the public, but most high-fatality mass shootings are perpetrated with semiautomatic handguns. Large-capacity magazines arm all types of semiautomatic firearms, not just assault weapons, so banning the devices could have a greater effect on such incidents, the study authors said."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2758008
Can we at least agree that LCMs should be banned?

 

"LCMs provide a distinct advantage to active shooters intent on murdering numerous people: they increase the number of rounds that can be fired at potential victims before having to pause to reload or switch weapons. Evidence shows that victims struck by multiple rounds are more likely to die, with 2 studies finding that, when compared with the fatality rates of gunshot wound victims who were hit by only a single bullet, the fatality rates of those victims hit by more than 1 bullet were more than 60% higher.12,13 Being able to strike human targets with more than 1 bullet increases shooters’ chances of killing their victims. Analyses of gunshot wound victims at level I trauma centers have suggested that this multiple-impact capability is often attributable to the use of LCMs.14,15

"In addition, LCMs provide active shooters with extended cover.16 During an attack, perpetrators are either firing their guns or not firing their guns. While gunmen are firing, it is extremely difficult for those in the line of fire to take successful defensive maneuvers. But if gunmen run out of bullets, there are lulls in the shootings, as the perpetrators are forced to pause their attacks to reload or change weapons. These pauses provide opportunities for people to intervene and disrupt a shooting. Alternatively, they provide individuals in harm’s way with a chance to flee or hide. Legislative endeavors that restrict access to LCMs are implemented with the express objective of reducing an active shooter’s multiple-impact capability and extended cover.10"
https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.2019.305311

 

I know lots of dems own guns. I know lots of lesbians who own guns and some gay men as well-I know more Lesbians because I have taught women's only classes as have my wife and lots of lesbian couples attend. I encourage that because in some areas lesbian pairs are targeted for attacks. But they always tell me they have to vote for the Dems because they see the GOP as hostile to gay rights. Same with lots of single women-they don't like dem gun control but they hate GOP sponsored abortion bans as well. Now I have found that GOP pro gun politicians rarely vote for stuff that really Impacts me deleteriously so voting gun rights first really isn't a hardship for me-as it is for some gays, pro abortion advocates or blue collar union guys. While I support most abortion rights and I support gay rights, pro gun politicians are more in line with my economic views, defense views, law enforcement views and tax issues

 

written by people who have no clue about gun fighting or criminals.

This moronic argument misses numerous points

1) people planning to commit mass murder are not deterred by magazine restrictions and will have as many magazines as they want
2) or they will carry multiple guns-they INITIATE THE ATTACK. you have NEVER EXPLAINED HOW A LAW will stop someone willing to MURDER OTHERS from obtaining several of the BILLION or more NCMs in circulation

however, a homeowner who follows the law and who is attacked in his home or business, or on the streets, normally does not have time to stuff his perhaps non existent clothing with magazines. He normally will be fortunate to grab a weapon and YOU WANT TO LIMIT HIM TO TEN ROUNDS

 

No because the article dishonestly calls NORMAL CAPACITY MAGAZINES large capacity. Lets ban criminals instead rather than handicapping honest people. Those who want to take normal capacity magazines away from honest people are enemies of public safety and should be deemed as such

 

The propaganda is dishonest and he knows it

 

ATF records only go back to 2007 with the level of detail needed. The two worst shootings in the decade prior to the ban were committed with pistol, so the "before" death numbers were inflated by guns that weren't affected by the ban.

According to Mother Jones there were gour mass shootings with "assault weapons" in the decade prior to the ban and two during the ban. None involved AR-15s.

What was the causal effect again?

 

That's 2.5 shootings per year, in a country with hundreds of millions of guns and LCMs.

A "ban", which SCOTUS has already decided is unconstitutional, is supposed to reduce the number of LCMs enough to make a difference?

 

well when the Colt patent was in place, there wasn't much to choose from. Now there are at least 2 dozen makers I can name without doing any research-three are within 60 miles of my house-Anderson in Hebron (Northern) KY, HM Defense in Mt Orab Ohio (I have several of theirs including one they built for me based on my specs) and Faxon Firearms in Butler County Ohio-my son wins PCC competitions with one of their 9mm AR 15 rigs and I use one for home defense-another for competition). Then you have Colt, Windham Weaponry (the old Bushmaster when they were made well) in Maine-Remington Bushmaster-moved to Alabama I think,Ruger, Olympic,Eagle Arms/Armalite, SIG, Ruger, Palmetto State Armory and FnH in South Carolina etc. so the marketplace is far more saturated with AR rifles

 

no one expected Scalia to die when he did

 

I think it serves a useful purpose in destroying the gushing love for the clinton gun ban but we have to remember that it's red herring since reducing violent shootings is not what is motivating the hard core gun banners

 

So for your doomsday scenario to happen, multiple conservative justices would have to die within the next two years. Not likely at all.

 

never say never. its disgusting that every democrat on the court ignores the obvious intent of the second amendment

 

Don't give Hillary any ideas

 

No, the number of people doesn't matter. The availability of AR-15s increased, period, and given that the number of people increased, the number of bad people also increased.

 

Multiple conservative SC justice will not die within next two years. You can stop your nervous handwringing and relax and enjoy life a bit. Or not.

 

You mean they had to do a study to tell you that if you get shot more than one time you're more likely to die?

Will they do a study next to prove that water is wet?

 

they will die in the future. the future is unwritten-know your rights.

what is the goal of you constantly saying we have nothing to worry about?

 

I want these big fans of pissing on the second amendment by trying to ban normal capacity magazines to tell us why someone who ignores the penalties for mass murder will somehow be deterred by a magazine ban-and won't be able to get one of the billion NCMs that are floating around the country. guess what is the most common magazine in the USA-the M16 30 round magazine that the military buys by the boatload and manages to lose or scrap hundreds of thousands constantly? BTW for the gun banners who don't know-those fit the AR 15

 

BTW the dems want to pack the court.