John Boehner Throws An Epic Tantrum As His Homeland Security Hostage Scheme Backfires

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    John Boehner Throws An Epic Tantrum As His Homeland Security Hostage Scheme Backfires

    By: Jason Easley | politicususa | Wednesday, February, 11th, 2015, 12:50 pm
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    "Speaker of the House John Boehner had an epic meltdown in front of the cameras as the reality is setting in that Republican scheme to hold Homeland Security funding hostage has completely backfired.

    "The House did its job. We won the fight to fund the Department of Homeland Security and to stop the president's unconstitutional actions. Now, it's time for the Senate to do their work".
    Boehner was asked if this was coordination he envisioned between House and Senate Republicans, and his rant continued: "Listen, the issue here is not Senate Republicans. The issue is Senate Democrats. Seven of whom criticized the president's executive overreach yet they continue to block consideration of the bill."
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    "Speaker Boehner is angry because Mitch McConnell gave up on trying to pass the House's Homeland Security funding bill that overturned President Obama's executive actions on immigration. John Boehner is trying to hide the fact that he and the House Republicans were warned by the Senate that their inclusion of immigration in the Homeland Security funding measure could derail the whole bill. Boehner didn't listen because he was preoccupied with pulling off another political stunt to appease his own caucus. Boehner is caught in a trap of his own creation, and now he is throwing a fit.

    The reality of the situation is that Democrats aren't going to vote for anything that isn't a clean Homeland Security funding bill. Boehner knows this. McConnell knows this. Everyone knows this, which is why Boehner is melting down. John Boehner is eventually going to have to rely on Nancy Pelosi and House Democrats to come in and save him yet again. The House Republican scheme to get Obama for his immigration executive action is dragging down the entire Republican Party. Until Boehner caves, Homeland Security may shut down. Speaker Boehner will scream and yell until the end of the month, but he knows what he must do."

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    http://www.politicususa.com/2015/02...per-tantrum-tells-senate-democrats-asses.html
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    IMO: Well, Mr. Boehner, the ball is in your park, either return it or get off the pot because this 'hostage legislation' gets old and really boring after awhile. The republican party is wasting America's time and energy on dirty tricks and gross political maneuvers. Now is the time to fund the DHS to keep the department open and the workers paid, and to FINALLY get to the Immigration Reform Bill that is now well over a year old and counting for the republicans to FINALLY get around to working on it.

    Their stupid ploy is so transparent to everyone...the republican party simply does not want any Mexicans in America. Everyone should be blue-eyed, blond haired, with white skin in America. >>>MOD EDIT Flamebait and Filter Bypass Removed<<<
    Let's all now bow our heads and say a nice goodbye to John Boehner's hasty exit from the House....
     
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    Really? because it seems like a democratic republic votes on a bill as they believe they should. Just because this didn't get the votes required doesn't mean it's some how a fascist dictatorship.

    A fascist dictatorship would have bypassed both the House and The Senate (probably abolishing both as well) and just instituted it as law without a vote.

    I said the same thing 10-15 years ago. It's not a dictatorship if it's voted on by the representatives of the people. Just because the vote doesn't go your way doesn't mean that it isn't a democracy.
     
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    That's really funny because that is exactly what Obama did with the executive amnesty.

    The house did vote on the bill and passed it with bipartisan support.

    The bill is being held up by Harry Reid who is blocking 99 other senators from voting on it.
     
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    Total Nonsense, the OP states that the House passed the BS Bill and they were warned by the Senate that it would not fly and guess what it did not. That is how our government works don't like it, too bad. How about remove the additional BS from the Bill and fund Homeland Security, if that is what the Cons were interested in they would do that, America is watching how the Cons behave when in power you have less than two years to start accomplishing something or you may very well discover that the gains you accomplished in 2014 will be reversed. Stop with the childish games and get something done, or pay the price, >>>MOD EDIT Off Topic Removed<<<
     
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    Like using a pen and a phone.
     
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    It hasn't even been two months and they've already done everything I thought they would, plus some. It's as if they have a political death wish.
     
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    Hispanic Americans By the Numbers
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    54 million

    The Hispanic population of the United States as of July 1, 2013, making people of Hispanic origin the nation's largest ethnic or racial minority. Hispanics constituted 17 percent of the nation's total population

    Read more: Hispanic Americans: Census Facts http://www.infoplease.com/spot/hhmcensus1.html#ixzz3S8ThSqbU

    So we have 54 million Hispanics as citizens now and they make up the second largest group in America, but you say Republicans don't want any in this country and we are nothing but a bunch of f racist. That doesn't seem to hold true does it? It couldn't be because all these people are illegal and are not good for the country, Blacks and blue collar workers could it? The only reason the Left want them is for their vote and we all know that.
     
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    Then how is the Congress supposed to block Obama's executive order? You do realize that the departments largely responsible for its implementation belong to the Department of Homeland Security do you not?
     
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    Bypassing both Houses of Congress is EXACTLY what Obama did, and the GOP is trying combat.
     
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    As he said..."The House Did It's Job", what's suppose to happen is if the Senate in total does not agree, pass what they can/want and it will go to conference...Please Agent, read up a tiny bit on Congress procedures, there not that complicated if both chambers manage to "do their job's"...
     
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    Blame the guys who wrote in Executive Actions into the Constitution then. The legality can be decided by the SC if someone challenges it. The Rs tried to stop it and failed. That's the joys of having a House and a Senate. Sometimes things go the way you want, sometimes they don't. Calling it a Fascist Dictatorship (which is as far away from this as you can get) is just sour apples.

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    As I said, blame the guys who put EOs into the Constitution. If the Rs think it's illegal, send it to the SC.
     
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    So, in Your mind, you would rather make the Nation less safe than allow some illegals that have been here over five years the opportunity to apply for citizenship? I bet you even consider yourself a Patriot.
     
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    Please specify what you think constitutes a tantrum. Why would Boehner be leaving the House? Der....
     
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    My family is Hispanic and about half of us or more are republican. Being Hispanic does not mean a guaranteed vote for democrats. Many are pro-life Catholics.
     
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    The executive actions in the Constitution is the President's duty to enforce the law. Obama's EO do not enforce the law, but circumvent it.
     
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    Well some would argue that the odds of us facing danger from illegals is far higher than the danger we face from ISIS.

    But beyond that, DHS will not actually shut down you know, only irrelevant people (of which there are many) will be sent home.

    They have more than enough funds to carry on past this crisis.
     
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    It's the Left who are playing childish games. The Democratic dominated Senate held up over 150 House bills that had already passed and refuse to let them come up for a vote until the House passed the Senate immigration bill. Now your holding the Homeland Security bill hostage for refusing to take out the immigration funding in it. You think we aren't smart enough to know what your doing? Your willing to sell out the country for millions of new voters.
     
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    Red herring.

    Over 80% of DHS has been declared "essential" and will continue even if the funding is not approved. Security will not be impacted one bit.

    Don't fall for the "progressive" lies.
     
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    The bill funds DHS completely EXCEPT for Obama's amnesty. Hopefully McConnell will wake up and pass it in reconciliation which would require only 51 votes. Then let Obama publicly veto it shutting down DHS.
     
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    No, EO's if used properly are temporary measures the Executive can use. In this case granting 5-11 million ILLEGAL ALLIEN'S certain privileges is a legislative action and the only recourse is not funding. All is working fine, except maybe the Senate.
     
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    Less safe? It's only been Democrats calling for open borders. Pelosi said America and Mexico are one nation divided by a line.
     
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    Good, I hope the President veto's the bill if it ever sees his desk. Cons love to play extortion games and when they lose they try blaming others, the American People are not fooled.
     
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    The bolded portion seems like the only parts that could be construed as circumvention. But all of these seem to be more expansion on already passed legislation, rather then the creation of new law. I guess it's just a matter of how much expansion can occur before it's a new law.

    Which again, seems like it should be a matter for the SC, don't you think?
     
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    Executive Orders are not temporary, they become law.

    The only time they are temporary is if the President sets a date for its expiration.
     
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    I don't think it matters how many are effected to declare whether or not an EO is proper and legal or not...
     

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