John Bolton says he may launch presidential bid to stop Trump

He is a war hawk so he at least aligns with Democrats there.

And let him run. Plenty will be running so why not add to the fodder. Only one gets the nomination and I suspect Bolton's run will have little to no impact to the final result.

 

Oh, totally. Bolton and the Democrats, synonymous.

 

Not in this sketch

 

Kasich was the best candidate in 2016 of all the candidates. He did a good job as governor of Ohio (they like him there) and he is what I consider great POTUS material.
He just got bowled over by the MAGA crowd, anxious to give the middle finger to the establishment.
But there's a reason there's an establishment, and it's not because the establishment makes it so, it's because to actually get things done, one must know HOW to get things done, which escaped the MAGA crowd.
Now they're stuck with a bunch of Chinese made red hats and other memorabilia to put in storage.
I actually get why many voted for Trump, but I think they picked the wrong person for it. Trump blew it, big league!
Happy to see someone else recognize Kasich for his attributes! Thanks for bringing some sanity into the conversation!

 

Government by the people is how he got elected. Sounds like government by the people is what you're really afraid of.

 

He won in 2016. Remember that?

 

I do. N=1 is a poor data set.

 

I have no problem with his "election". How he executed his tenure as President of These United States was the greatest assault on OUR Nation in it's history; I have a huge problem with that and believe ALL AmeriCAN's should be afraid of the "possibility" he could become president again.

 

After the cluster **** the Democrats have been, Trump is the last thing you have to be afraid of.

 

What considerations go into your verdict, that a DeSantis victory, is preferable to a Trump loss? Is that supposed to make the crazy, go away? Don't tell me that the MAGA folks have you thinking in terms of appeasement (more, below).

I feel similarly. Just because DeSantis "cleans up" better than Trump, does not change the fact that he has shown both a dictatorial personality, and a willingness to pander to his base. Though he may not be as driven as Trump, in the service of only his own wealth and power-- and that's a big "if;" more likely he just doesn't have the guts to push the envelope quite as outlandishly, as direct calls to disregard the Constitution, for instance-- his advertising himself as the powerful servant, chosen by God, has got to give any prudent spectator, a reason for pause. His state policies against "CRT," acknowledgement of homosexuality, and toward "wokeness," in schools, demonstrate to me, that his administration would be more effective at pushing all these "conservative issues," than Trump had been, or would be. But that doesn't mean he would be any less inclined to give tax windfalls to the rich & to corporations, relax environmental standards, and go inhumanely mad dog, at the border.

 

What you really mean is "How Trump was treated was the greatest assault on OUR Nation in it's history" which would be accurate. Some of the worst abuses in modern day history were comitted by Obama, his Administration and he inconcert with The FBI/DOJ/CIA/NSA and carried out by the media and with the help of foreign powers.

 

I doubt his presence in the primary would make a difference.

 

I would still prefer a democrat beating Desantis, but Trump being the nominee will be bad for the country. Worse even than if a non Trump Republican ended up winning.

There are things more important than my political philosophy.

The most important battle our country faces is the one against extremism. Nothing matters if we lose that fight.

 

I too doubt it, other than to goad Trump into a series of untrue and unhinged statements.

 

Yes, we need a war criminal to save us from mean tweets!

The ****ing insanity...

 

So "YOU" say; but if you look honestly at President Joe's record, even economically, he's done a great job of getting These United States back on track and has restored respect for U.S. around the world.

What PRESIDENT Joe hasn't done, is have us ALL living an alternative reality highlighted by crime and deception, as we were, EVERY DAY, when tRaitor tRump was president.

 

Not likely people have been trying that with Trump since 2015 and they've all failed there's a time when you stop with a certain tactic and try and move to a different one.

 

No, that's NOT what I mean; not at all what I meant.

I meant tRaitor tRump was the greatest danger our Nation has ever faced, but we came through and Government BY THE PEOPLE prevailed!!!!!!!!!!!

 

So, again, how would a DeSantis Presidency, be a blow to extremism? He has been actively supporting radical Republican views on education, for example. And flying asylum applicants, between 2 states, neither of which is his own-- though with FL taxpayer funds-- how does that indicate a more "sensible" Republican?

IOW, I think extremism would flourish, on the Right, under either of those two, as President. At least, with Trump, we would have been pre-warned.

 

Which would not be accurate at all. Biden has proven to be a bigger threat to Democracy and to the US than any other President we have seen. Not since Democrats waged a Civil War to keep slavery and defect from the Union have we seen such a Traitor to our nation. Trump was a Constutionalist compared to the moron in office now.

BTW, election was rigged to get him in office. FBI colluded with Big Tech/Media and others which is against the law.

 

Funny you responded to that, because that is the one post this week I rethought after I made it.

Compared to T****, DeSantis is not PERSONALLY disgusting. Most every idea, attitude, and policy is revolting, but he seems to actually be a decent man in his personal life. One wife, 3 non corrupt kids, did miliary (legal) service...

Those are things that put him MILES ahead of T**** on a ballot and much scarier from a democracy standpoint, because some voters might substitute that for the thought of voting for another fascist....

 

To claim that people have failed in goading Trump into making untrue or unhinged statements is a laughable bit of fiction.

 

Trump actually attempted to reverse the results of an election. Biden did not. There is no political figure in modern US history (and likely in all of US history) that has done more in this vein. I can't tell if you are just trying to make Trump supporters look foolish or if you are actually serious.

 

What he would do is he would call him a name and laugh at them that's what he's been doing for 5 years.

 

You are missing my point.

Trump not being the nominee is all i care about. I'm not wishing for a DeSantis win.

Trump exiting US politics is a win against extremism. Wanting him to be the nominee just because it might make it easier for the Dems to win, doesn't help in the fight against extremism.