Judge rules against Trump in records dispute with Congress

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  1. Nemesis

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    This will only matter if a higher judge does not decide to overturn it.
     
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    It would help Bonespurs' squad if they actually had a legitimate argument to make.

    This won't be overturned; there's no basis for it.
     
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    Basis exists for Trump to turn over the requested items.

    Trump does not have a legitimate reason in law to not comply.

    It will not be overturned.
     
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    Does Trump needs a reason not to comply? Can’t he simply snub the judge?

    Yes he can and he will. For as long as it suits him.
     
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    Trump isn't the only one with copies of the documents.
    I'm pretty sure the accountants won't go to jail for him. :)
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But this can be appealed. Plus they did not get his tax forms.

    Democrats counted on Mueller knocking Trump out but Trump cut a page from the Ali book of tricks and played rope a dope.

     
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    This one will sail thru the courts.
    So will the tax returns.
     
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    The subpoena is not aimed at Trump but rather Lasars. They can snub the legal order at their peril. Trump can’t do squat. However it must be nice to root for a guy who just thinks he can tell everyone to go screw themselves. You would have loved Dick Nixon and Spiro Agnew....
     
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    The judge's ruling of legislative priority will be right in Justice Roberts' wheel house.
     
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    The actions of a truly innocent man.

    :roflol:
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It amuses me Democrats think this ruling ends the parade. Trump is used to courts.
     
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    Trump's strategy is to hide everything from everybody, and to order anyone asked anything to say nothing.

    Cry baby pissy tweets spewed at George Conway may be the only detectable sign of life for the duration.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can I ask you personal question where you include proof using your cell phone and uploading your photographs?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you found anything so far that improves Trump’s chances of not being re-elected?
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It would not make any difference. You won’t get rid of Trump. He’s gonna be your president until 2024, so stop being sore about it and deal with it.

    Aah yes... by being sore, you ARA dealing with it :applause:
     
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    Why do I think Trump will just shake this **** off and keep going about Making America Great Again? Is there a record of Trump pissing Democrats off and ruining their dreams?
     
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    Of course. If I run for president and promise to abide by a 40 year tradition of candidates releasing such private information, I would show my respect to the American people by keeping my word to them. I would be honor-bound to do so, even if it were to expose extremely damaging evidence that I would much rather keep hidden. Lying would not be an option.

    Likewise, I would respect the co-equal branches of government and adhere to statutes requiring disclosure in the spirit of transparency that Americans deserve. I can handle the truth.

    It is the interests of the nation that are paramount, not my personal concerns.

    To act as if I were above the law by whining and throwing tantrums to wee-wee up a fawning cult of personality would harm the United States.
     
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    Trump's chances of not being re-elected appear quite good.

    Despite such challenges as the Chinese climate change hoax to make US manufacturing non-competitive and prayer rugs and duct-taped women aplenty at the Southern border,
    he somehow manages to still put up very impressive golf scores even as he bloats the national debt.
     
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    As stupid as USa was in pre-elections in 2015 / 2016 ... to let them only the choice between Satan or Devil to become next President ... I wonder about nothing anymore.
    And since the admirers and fans of Trump are completely immune to facts and believe in every bullshit of Trump and do not question him ... I'm wondering about nothing in the US.

    How did a German comedian say? In the US, the proof that Darwin's evolutionary doctrine in human beings can also reverse has been taking place for 2 years ...
    This is of course a very left comedian ... ;-)
     
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    Yes. He's used to losing and backtracking.

    Robert, you do understand that not all appeals are equal, don't you? In other words, you understand that some arguments being advanced are so poor that an appeal is only a temporary reprieve and only meant to delay the inevitable, right?

    That's what this case is.
     
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    There's a very high percentage of "dope" as opposed to "rope" when it comes to Bonespurs' frivolous arguments.
     
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    From the decision:


    "Applying those principles here compels the conclusion that President Trump cannot block


    the subpoena to Mazars. According to the Oversight Committee, it believes that the requested

    records will aid its consideration of strengthening ethics and disclosure laws, as well as amending

    the penalties for violating such laws. The Committee also says that the records will assist in

    monitoring the President’s compliance with the Foreign Emoluments Clauses. These are facially


    valid legislative purposes, and it is not for the court to question whether the Committee’s actions



    are truly motivated by political considerations
    . Accordingly, the court will enter judgment in favor

    of the Oversight Committee."

    Well, ****ing duh.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Suddenly you put all sorts of limit on it. It is what I expected.
     

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