Julian Assange's Attorney Predicts More Espionage Charges For Journalists

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  1. FivepointFive

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    Hip Hip Huawei

    Talk about giving secrets away

    5G Assange is ascending

    If we have to haul Assange in then we have to extradite the entire Chinese army for conspiring to get information about the US military

    The threat to our freedom of speech is not small

    Many reporters feel uncomfortable about assange's situation.. and we all know that CNN really runs the country

    I guess the heart of the matter is Assange a good or a bad whistleblower? to be honest I never really paid attention to anything that came out of that organization personally.. I kind of never really trust that kind of news organizations reporting..
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's an excellent point.

    They always treat individual spies as terrible criminals, but treat the government that hired them as "just business as usual".

    What Assange is accused of doing is far less criminal than what China has been well documented doing. Yet it's just trade as usual with China. US consumers buying more things from China, with that money just being used to fund more spying on the US.
     
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    yeah I see what you're saying I think we're in agreement that the song seems to be getting some very special treatment..

    Foreign governments are doing wrong

    Assange was looking for wrongdoing

    Sending a clear-cut message to the public. Being a whistleblower doesn't pay.. especially when you love wiki leaks one month and then a few months later you don't know one Good damn thing about it
     
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  4. Thedimon

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    You think he will disappear after deportation to the US? I highly doubt that. I actually think his trial will be very public, he will get a few years and will be ejected out of the US upon completion of his term like a used condom.
     
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    I don’t think you understand why Assange is being charged.
    Let’s say you live in some Afghanistan village, and the war is going on. The land is ruled by local talibs. You decide to cooperate with Americans for money or for a chance to be moved to the US. So, you secretly help them for a while and then some dumbass from Wikileaks dumbs a ton of unredacted records with your name in it.
    Can you imagine what locals would do to you and your family if they find out you helped the Americans?
    That’s the whole core of Assange crime and why he is not a journalist - a responsible mass media organization would redact out the names of locals. Assange did not. That’s why he is charged with theft and espionage.
    Luckily, as far as I know, nobody died, but it was a very real possibility. Assange is a criminal who deserves fair trial and prison time if convicted.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I understand that, but I'm not sure there's any evidence that something was revealed to the public in Wikileaks that specifically endangered specific persons.

    It's more like "We have war secrets, and making that public could have endangered lives".
    But those war secrets have political implications too.

    Should information be criminalized on a global basis, depending on where that information came from?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If I remember correctly, there were specific names in the original raw data, that could have been dangerous, but Wikileaks redacted almost all those parts out and did not publish them.
     
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    The outrage at the time was that these leaks compromised a lot of local informants in Iraq and Afghanistan. Assanges actions could literally result in torture and deaths of entire families.
    Sometimes things are classified for a legitimate reason.
     
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    Not true.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/04/12/712659290/how-much-did-wikileaks-damage-u-s-national-security
     

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