Junteenth vs. Reparations <<MODERATOR"S WARNING>>

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  1. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    They are entitled to take their ass to work and pay their bills like the rest of us. :)


    Nobody owes them a damn thing in this life just like nobody owes me :)

    I'm not sitting around with my hand out and neither should they :)
     
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  2. Moriah

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    I'll keep you posted on the progress of our reparations.
     
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    You be sure and do that, the day they start taking it out of my taxes is the day I quit working.

    Or start working under the table because somebody who was never alive that had something done to their ancestors that I had nothing to do with can kiss my ass. :)
     
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    Juneteenth commemorates the abolishment of slavery in Texas and it originated in Galveston. There's nothing about the observation of any day that teaches history. Memorial Day doesn't teach history any more than does Juneteenth or the 4th of July. So it seems to me to be super-marginal to object to its celebration on the grounds that it doesn't teach history.

    Reparations are long overdue and would definitely solve some problems and likely create some as well. Borel, the character played by Johnny Galecki in the movie, In Time, is a cautionary example of the type of problems likely to arise for some folks, be they black or white, receiving more money than they know what to do with.

    White blood lines lost and the economic costs of that as well? What foolishness is this pathetic attempt to misdirect the United States original sin against those that suffered the most from it for at least two centuries? Cause and effect analysis seems not to be your strong suite, much less any comprehension of the vile institution of slavery and its history in the US.

    LBJ deserves a lot more respect than he's been given. You can put that in your pipe and smoke it. Peace out brah.

    Slavery continued with a marginal cost increase under the peonage system in the former Confederate States for decades after the Civil War, largely because the US government had bigger plans that included finishing its conquest of the lands remaining in the West and getting the South back on board with building the US by any means necessary.

    White blood lines and economic costs, pfffftttt.!

    The South is littered with this white trash behavior, not toothless Las Vegas meth-heads, nope, the real white trash, affluent racist pieces of ****:

    https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/sugar-land-slave-convict-labor-history/
     
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  5. FatBack

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    So just how far do we wish to take this reparations movement?

    You can go back in time, on
    any Nation on Earth and find an aggrieved party....
    Should we pay everyone money for something that never happened to them by people who are no longer alive?
     
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    Perhaps all of we white Southerners can get a bunch of black folks to stand there and we'll say we're sorry?

    Never mind the fact that we don't have a clue if all of those white folks had slave owning ancestors or if all those black folks had ancestors who were slaves.

    Quit crying in your Cheerios and get on with your life. I have to go to work tonight at 10:00.... I really would rather not but I'm going to get my ass up and go anyways.
     
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    Well said. Thank you.
     
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    What both of you seem to forget is that the north went to war with the South and part to abolish the institution of slavery so there are many white Yankees who shed their blood for that
     
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    Why should they be? They did nothing to earn that wealth. I disagree with any claims of birth right special status or entitlement. I think we should move society towards treating all as equals.
     
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    A legal prescedent was set by paying descendants of Holocaust survivors. Do you disagree with those reparations?
     
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    Yes I do.
     
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    Tough, it happened, the rules have been set and whites have been found guilty of double standards or worse, racism in their refusal to acknowledge this.
     
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    No, blacks do not deserve reparations. We paid with our blood to free the blacks. Was that not enough? I didn’t see any other races rushing to get themselves killed to free slaves.
     
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    Are we supposed to give a killer a round of applause for stopping murdering ppl?

    No, we punish and rehabilitate (reparations)
     
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    $50b plus given to Ukraine but not a penny for past crimes. You have to look at who holds the purse strings, old white men.
     
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    Bank of America Corp. started a trial program aimed at helping first-time homebuyers in Black and Hispanic neighborhoods by offering mortgages that don’t require down payments, closing costs or minimum credit scores, all considered longtime obstacles to narrowing the gap between White and minority ownership.
     
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    They damn well do. Ending the vile business through a bloody civil war that was then neatly pushed out of mind and memory in the pursuit of building an Empire absolutely has left unfinished business on the table. Put yourself in the position of a young black man or woman in the United States of America and you will surely not have to work too hard to imagine challenges they face that you and I do not. Hard work for example is not something that in and of itself counts for anything among a population with a deeply formed cultural experience proving that it creates potentially equal problems for oneself. Other slaves for example wouldn't look kindly on the man or woman that worked extra hard for the master. And the master's reward for hard work was most often non-existent. This is a deeply ingrained thing among a slave population. There are subtle personal behavioral responses that accompany all forms of coercion, including the current corporate forms of coercion that occur today. I am dealing with them at work regarding corporate cultural issues that by many quantitative metrics impact process safety management in a myriad number of negative end results. It's something I take perhaps a bit more seriously than I should because I am admittedly a bit of a drama slut, even to the extent that I perhaps crave drama on some occasions. However, in spite of the fact that I might be overly rooting for the underdog nature of the decedents of former slaves in the United States, meh, no, I don't think so....
     
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    You and Fatback don't seem to know much history. Y'all must have graduated before "CRT". At Abolition Blacks were 13% of the population (about the same as now) and nearly all in poverty. What did we do? No 30 acres and a mule. No, for the next 100 years their particular race was subjected to systemic racism and segregation. A price they paid for being the "lesser" race which prevented them from accumulating wealth and sharing power as full citizens. Maybe that is why they still have double the poverty rate as whites and have 1/10th the wealth of whites. The abuse of the race did not stop at Abolition.
     
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    I'm waiting for my reparations too. My family are white and did not own slaves.

    Hopefully the government will get around to assigning some African Americans to my family to help out around the homestead and carry out work we are paying them for past/present/future.

    Looking forward to some reperations for sure.
     
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    Throughout the internet you can see, by the spelling, the type of low-brows that these threads attract.
     
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    "I'm waiting for my reparations too".
    Keep waiting. :)
     
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    Haha I love this! God bless you Moriah, I hope you have a great day!
     
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    God bless you too, Yant0s. :)
     
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    Wtf.english please.
     
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    Yep, the racist skkkumbags that join topics like this have the same level of sophistication as pro Ukrainian crowd
     

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