Just contacted the ATF about "Moonshiners" episode

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  1. TheDonald

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    Wrong kid, moonshine can kill, and kill brain cells from just one consumption
     
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    I agree with you. They probably had a professional explosives team set it up and cleared the area for 500 yards in all directions.

    The one big clue as to how fake the show is, is that people that are doing criminal things on national television in a localized area never seen to be found and arrested. How are they not able to find these people?
     
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    Ethanol can be made from corn, wheat, or any fermentable fruit or grain, sugar, ect. I was talking about methanol. Please get your facts straight before you go tossing around uninformed insults like a mindless fool.
     
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    It can be distilled from a whole lot more than just corn. Lol. Ethanol is ethyl alcohol. Beer, wine, rum, vodka, gin, whiskey, etc. the alcohol that you drink is ethyl alcohol/ethanol.
    But looking at the bright side, you learned something today.
     
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    First you say that Methanol in moonshine is a myth, then you say that methanol is produced from fermentation. Look kid you have no clue, the fact is that moonshine kills brain cells and it kills everyone present when the still blows up. Furthermore this TV show is fake and no alcohol is produced EVER.
    Ethanol from moonshine
    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060828045520AAxOr8k

    Methanol from moonshine
    https://www.popsci.com/science/article/2012-05/fyi-can-drinking-moonshine-really-make-me-go-blind

    See kid, both methanol and ethanol are produced from moonshine, and these can kill humans easily as both are highly poisonous.

    So stop insulting me as I am trying to keep you moonshining morons alive
     
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    Pure ethanol is fatal and can be used as jet and rocket fuel, it kills idiots that moonshine far too often. It is never found in Beer, wine, rum, vodka, gin, whiskey, etc, that is produced and marketed legally.

    Your disinformation could easily be fatal and is the reason that so many moonshiners are brain dead
     
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    lol, you need to do some research. Nothing wrong with education. Ever had a beer? If you have, you drank entanol. Ever drink anything 100 proof? If yes, it was 50% ethanol.
     
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    Again you are the fool if you do not know that ethanol is rocket fuel. Try doing a simple Google search before you embarrass yourself again
    http://www.dlr.de/dlr/en/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-10285/417_read-20952/year-all/#/gallery/25674

    https://www.quora.com/Why-was-alcohol-water-mixture-used-as-rocket-fuel

    Ethanol as rocket fuel is common knowledge to normal persons, that do not make moonshine ever.

    Got that kid, the fact is that your information could endanger peoples lives
     
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    Ok, you go on with your bad self. But beware of finely aged scotch because it has ethanol in it lol. Have you ever been drunk? If you have, you were drunk on ethanol.
     
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    Again kid you are uninformed and this lack of information can and has been FATAL to people with your lack of knowledge. Again so that at least some people can be more knowledgeable that you it must be noted that the first alcohol produced from a still is always PURE METHANOL/ROCKET FUEL NOT SUITABLE FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION UNLESS SUICIDE IS THE GOAL.

    Your ignorance could kill, but what is actually expected of fools who consume moonshine
     
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    Yeah, the first drips that come off a still contain methanol, acetone, and other alcohols that you don’t want to drink, that is why it is called a foreshot and is discarded. It is just a tiny fraction of the distillation process. But the ethanol that you so eloquently describe as rocket fuel is the consumable alcohol that is captured after the bad alcohol is thrown away. This is done by way of temperature. Methanol and acetone have a lower boiling point than does ethanol, that is why it comes out of the still first. Reading your posts on this subject lead me to believe you are not very well educated. Feel free to disprove this impression.
     
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    And to think all of that covert activity takes place under the radar on reality tv!
     
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    Makes it dangerous and typical of the way things are presented by the media. At least since Woodrow Wilson hired Edward Bernays, the American Public Psyche has been manipulated to some degree or another. Short word for it is "spin". Everything we see on TV is spun.
     
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    It is typically NOT discarded but mixed with the last of the distillation which has a lesser alcohol content. Your belief that idiots producing illegal moonshine in the woods are ethical and care about anyone's wellbeing is fully ignorant to the point of dysfunctional.

    These idiots mix all of this together to produce the most potent and profitable brain death that they can. But you go right ahead believing that the guy with one tooth cares about your health.

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    I’ll accept that as you admitting your ignorance of the subject as the foreshot is always cast off.
     
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    That is from ethanol. Not methanol and is not exclusive to moonshine but good job kid.
     
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    Since ethanol and methanol bond a new boiling point is created. Even in a VM reflux still the cuts are not exact and there is methanol in every part of your run.
     
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    You seem to be a bit hung up on this topic with something to prove. A good portion of the methanol and the acetone come out in the foreshot. Not every last damn molecule but enough to rid yourself of the nasties. We aren’t trying to land the man on the moon, we just want a sip of something homemade and good. Give it a rest already. Do you think you are the only person on this forum who has tended a still and run likker?
     
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    Methanol and acetone do not bond. So there is actually very little methanol in the foreshots.

    And no. I know I'm not the only one that does it. But at the same time I don't like it when false information gets passed on. Eventually I would like to see this hobby as legal to do as brewing your own beer or wine. But it's not going to happen if the majority of people continue to believe these myths about how dangerous it is.

    Anyway. If I may ask. What do you typically make? I'm partial to rye based bourbons though do make neutrals through my vm tower for use in sugary drinks for the wife and her friends.
     
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    I do it legally. How much of what is in the final product is easily measurable by knowing your mash. The same way the liquor industry figures it out. They don't actually test every batch for content. They only check the distillate by smell and flavor before racking it. And then by flavor smell and color as it ages. Since both methanol and ethanol are orderlies colorless and flavorless you can't tell how much of what is in it by any means other than knowing your mash and fermenting temp and your yeast. Or paying for high dollar tests that the industry does not use. They don't use these tests because there is no need to.

    Worked for buffalo trace for a little while after I got out of the Corps.
     
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    Again, people who hide out in the woods are not producing moonshine legally, nor is their any guarantee or warrantee of the quality of the product. As such educated people who value their health will not consume the methanol laced products that are produced in this manner.

    As for your producing moonshine legally, this is impossible, because if you have a license you are producing whiskey of some type and not moonshine. Moonshine is completely illegal and can not be produced legally, at least not for resale. Sure legal whiskey is produced by many of the same means, but it is not moonshine and the product must comply with all federal regulations which include it having color.

    So you are not producing moonshine legally, this is impossible.

    Next
     
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    Who did you contact when you watched Jurassic Park? Again it's a TV show, you know like NOT REAL

    LOL
     
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    Are you one of those people who live in a dream land and believe that these "Reality shows" are real? If you believe that I have just been given exclusive right to sell the Effile tower for scrap and need investors, I am willing to let you in.
     
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    Thank you, there seem to be a lot of lost dreamers here
     
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    If it is not entertaining to you do not watch it problem solved. I would suspect that there is nobody forcefully making you watch the show. Do you live your life hoping and praying something will bother you so you can get upset and get on a soapbox.
     

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