Just In! AG Barr Doesn't Accept Inspector General's Key Finding About FBI's Russia Investigation

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  1. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Nothingburger. You will not get what you want from the report and you will blame the deep State.
     
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  2. WalterSobchak

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    Because I have a brain and realize the entire world isn't against Trump trying to sabotage him.
     
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  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is well within presidential power to order an investigation into anything but since that did not happen it isn’t an issue.
     
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    Within his power to order or request an investigation into a political opponent? Probably.

    Appropriate? Absolutely not. No way. Not under any circumstances. That is the president interfering in the criminal justice system for his own political benefit. Every patriotic American knows that that kind of thing HAS to be off-limits. And yet that is what Trump did - asked for an investigation into a political opponent. Not by the DoJ but from a foreign government that relies on USA for military aid.

    I am genuinely perplexed at how anyone could think that is OK.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It did happen to Trump in 2015 but the left argues that’s OK.
     
  6. AmericanNationalist

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    Well, I pointed out the laughable absurdity of Pelosi's claim, but I'm going to do it again:

    A political opponent and/or rival: Someone of equal political standing, to contest the position of another. In this case, the presumptive Democratic Nominee.

    Wanna know what Biden is not?(yet). He's not the presumptive Democratic Nominee!

    He's as much of a rival as Kamala Harris, or Buttigieg, or Warren or Sanders. Presuming it were true, what was Trump going to do about the other 9 Democratic candidates, who around mid-April were ALL polling in double digits purportedly against Donald Trump?

    And how can we sit here, see the Joe Biden tape. and not demand an investigation.

    Donald Trump didn't make him say those words, "far-right wing" blogs didn't make him SAY those words. HE HIMSELF said those words.
     
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    No. It didn’t. Obama did not order or request an investigation into Trump.

    You made that up.
     
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  8. Gdawg007

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    Misses Conway has slept with a man who trashes the president on social media frequently....perhaps you've heard about the man she sleeps with. He's a disguising liberal and clearly the two are in cahoots because you know they have all the sex and are thus plotting to take down Trump. He should fire her right away...

    I must because I keep coming back to read posts like these. Ha ha. OK, cheap shot, but I'm still laughing about it.

    Anyway, those officials didn't get fired because they lied about Russian interfering with the US elections to cover up the fact that it was actually Ukraine. You see, that statement would be a lie. Just like it's a lie to say anything other than Russia interfered in the 2016 election to sway the election towards Trump. Notice, I didn't say they hacked voting machines or any of the other BS you want to fling from your fingers as you read that. What I said was the evidence shows it was them. And yet you will try and deny it over and over again.

    Peter Strzok was removed from the Mueller investigation and was only one agent involved among many. You can't be one agent controlling the outcome of such a thing. If you believe that, then you are again looking for a scapegoat for Trump's bad behavior. He was fired for reasons that aren't clear especially when the internal recommendation was to demote and suspend for 60 days.

    https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download

    Did you read the report from June of 2018? There's a link for ya. I doubt you will even make it through the executive summary which blames mostly Comey for making decisions ad hoc and based on his personal judgement even if contrary to department policy. It explicitly says there is zero evidence that he made any decisions based on political preference. Strzok is admonished not for having political beliefs, turns it out it's OK for FBI agents to have those despite what you may think or what Trump tells you to think, but that he expressed them using FBI provided cell phones to another employee, Page. So all in all, that report went just as expected, a report that indicates that the FBI should do better about avoiding personal/political messaging on company equipment and reiterate that personal e-mail/devices should not be used for work. Not earth shattering stuff. No deep state colluding against "your guy."

    I agree, I don't care for lies. Why do you seem to be so OK with them?
     
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    Claiming that Biden is not a political rival is laughable. When Trump asked Zelensky to investigate, Biden was the Dem front runner and polling ahead of Trump. He was and remains a huge threat to Trump.
     
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    As if you and your boys won't be here spinning away. That's hilarious that it's incredibly lacking in self-awareness.

    It's a strange thing to deny when you consider that Barr clearly wants to remain AG and the ONLY way you remain Trump's AG is to make it clear you believe everything he says and thinks. So let's examine the scenario you dub as speculation and spin. Barr is allegedly telling people at work that he doesn't agree with the IG report indicating there was sufficient evidence to investigate Trump's campaign. He also thinks that the CIA is holding information that would support such a disagreement. So in other words, he agrees with Trump. And he's spreading that in conversation in the work place, a place where Trump also works and listens. Anyone with half a brain can see that IF he is saying those things, it's largely to appease his boss as he suspects saying those two things will appease Trump. It's likely Trump will not take well an IG report indicating there was sufficient cause to investigate his 2016 campaign. Is anything beyond reason? Nope. It's all based on past Trump behavior. Now, IF Barr releases a letter or makes public statements as those above, well that's the speculation part. So I WILL speculate he will likely do something like that again to keep his job mostly. But I admit he may not and I maybe wrong on that part. But I don't doubt he's ensuring he stays AG and will do whatever he needs to in the work place to do that given who easily Trump crapped on Sessions.
     
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    He's an even bigger threat than Donald Trump to the oval office. Do you think Biden will improve his behavior as President, given his conduct that's been uncovered as VP?

    If I were still a Democrat, it's Warren or bust.
     
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    Biden is a political threat to Donald Trump. A rival.
     
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    It's amusing how they define "political rival" and "evidence", isn't it?

    Very puzzling.
     
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    Did you know the WP is responsible for Operation Mockingbird? https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKmockingbird.htm

    These people don't tell the truth, haven't told the truth and no I really don't expect them to tell the truth now. The only one who can observe the truth, is through self observant eyes. They've lied too much to be taken at their word, we need evidence to go along with any statements made.
     
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    Exactly--and the GOP released it's cartoon version of a "report" ahead of the majority report. It's absurd.
     
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    Common sense to the dictionary

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rival

    At this moment in time, Joe Biden is not a rival to POTUS Trump. He's a rival to the other 9 Democratic candidates.

    It's my humble suggestion to him, Pelosi and the rest of the Democratic voters/media to focus on objective reality.
     
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    *LOL*

    That's nothing but silly and incoherent mental gymnastics. Of course the front-runner in the democratic nomination process is a "rival".
     
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    Like you waited to see what the actual Muller Report said?

    *Guffaw*
     
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    We'll see what's in the report when it's released, but Horowitz has already established that he has a talent for talking out of both sides of his Swamp critter mouth. I expect more of the same in his next report.

    That being said, what matters is what Barr and Durham think and do, not what some DOJ insider investigating his own agency thinks and does.
     
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    Every Dem candidate is a political rival to Trump until they are out of the race.
    And of them, Biden is the biggest threat to Trump. At least he was in July when he asked Zelensky to investigate him.
     
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    It couldn't have happened without his approval.
     
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    This operation mockingbird?

    An effort to find a leak of classified materials and intelligence? Sorry, but the idea that it was to influence the media is the unsupported part.

    The evidence that Russia interfered and influenced is documented by the senate, Mueller, FBI, and CIA.

    https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume1.pdf

    There's the intelligence senate committee report. Since they are all Trumpie Republicans you should believe it.
     
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    If the media talked to people, then it's not rumor. That's called investigative journalism. Thanks for confirming everything I said though with your non-response response. Again, human behavior says if you have something to counter with, you use it. Once again, you countered with nothing which makes me and my half brain king by comparison.
     
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    He didn’t ask for it. He didn’t order it. I’ve never heard that he approved it. The most IV heard is that he was briefed on it.
    What you are really saying is that you think it is ok for the president to interfere in the DOJ for political purposes.
    You might be okay with that but I’m not.
     
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    LOL, when bureaucrats want to get out their spin, they talk to journalists.
     

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