Justice Department preparing for Mueller report as early as next week

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  1. fifthofnovember

    fifthofnovember Well-Known Member

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    Mueller report will be a huge disappointment for the "impeach Trump" crowd and then it will pave the way for a 2nd Special Council that will look into the Democrat IT scandal, Clinton email scandal and the Adam Schiff false allegations and leak scandal.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Already prepping the conspiracy of how it was worse than reported. Bravo!

    I guess this means you already know it was a totally unproductive witch hunt...
     
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    You have no idea. But I'll tell you what I expect. I expect Barr will keep most of Mueller's report secret and "classified" except for a few items harmless to Trump. Then I expect HUGE protests that get out of hand.
     
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    'While members of the political parties disagree on an ill-defined and so-called “pattern of contacts,” what is indisputable is that both sides concur that there remains “no direct evidence of a conspiracy.
    Democratic Senate investigators who spoke with NBC News did not dispute an assessment made by Chairman of the Committee, Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC) last week.
    “If we write a report based upon the facts that we have, then we don’t have anything that would suggest there was collusion by the Trump campaign and Russia,” Burr said in an interview with CBS News last week.'

    https://thepoliticalinsider.com/senate-intelligence-committee-russia-collusion/
     
  6. Pollycy

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    Oh, so Trump has been named as a defendant, brought up on charges, indicted, and/or has a court date? Articles of impeachment have been drawn up and are already being drooled over by enthusiastic, giddy House Democrats? Now, HOW in hell did I miss all that...? 8)

    OK, I've re-read that first paragraph, as you have instructed, and it reads,
    (by JESUS RODRIGUEZ and BEATRICE JIN, writers of some variety for Politico)

    "Since former FBI chief Robert Mueller was appointed to probe potential ties between the Trump campaign and Russians during the 2016 campaign, the special counsel has held Americans spellbound. His investigation has exposed illegal schemes across international borders and produced more than 100 criminal charges. Inside the White House, the probe has, at times, consumed President Donald Trump and his inner circle. Here are all the people Mueller has charged so far." Ooh... nothing there....

    Did you mean the SECOND paragraph instead? Nope, nothing there.
    Did ou mean the THIRD paragraph instead? Nope, nothing there, either.

    Get back to us when Trump's been accused of something -- you know... DONALD JOHN TRUMP, President of the United States...(?).... :bounce:
     
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    No, but he's mentioned 53 times in an article about indictments.. I have no idea how you missed that, other than selective reading..
     
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    Sounds more like Democrats in gov't already starting a "cry fest" over an investigation that was dead before it even started.
     
  9. kungfuliberal

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    Your intellectual myopia is amazing. Here's what you ignore:
    THE FACTS: Trump is overstating it. Burr, R-N.C., did tell CBS that he could not conclude there was collusion during the 2016 election based on the available evidence after his panel interviewed more than 200 witnesses and reviewed more than 300,000 pages of documents. But Burr also allowed that some questions raised during the Russia probe could occupy the committee “for the next decade.”

    “If we write a report based upon the facts that we have, then we don’t have anything that would suggest there was collusion by the Trump campaign and Russia,” he said in the interview that appeared Thursday. Burr’s comment was similar to what he has frequently said over the last two years. In August, for instance, Burr told The Associated Press that there is “no factual evidence today that we’ve received” on collusion or conspiracy between Russia and Trump’s campaign, but that he’s still open on the issue.

    Burr’s comment last week was not an official declaration on behalf of the committee exonerating Trump of collusion, and the chairman suggested that its final report may not draw a conclusion.

    “What I’m telling you is that I’m going to present, as best we can, the facts to you and to the American people,” Burr told CBS. “And you’ll have to draw your own conclusion as to whether you think that, by whatever definition, that’s collusion.”

    The Senate committee’s work is separate from that of special counsel Robert Mueller, who is also probing Russian election interference, questions of collusion and possible obstruction of justice by the Trump campaign.
     
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    Oh -- so, that's your criterion for allegations of criminal activity -- to be "mentioned" in an article about indictments...? Oh, yeah... now that's definitive! "GET A ROPE!"... right...? :twisted:

    Let me guess... in your last incarnation, you were a judge at the Salem Witch Trials...?
     
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    No, no, you've misunderstood me, really. I'm not one of the blithering idiot horse's asses who is suggesting that Trump has been named in anybody's 'inquisition' conducted so far about anything! Please don't blame THAT on me!

    If, and that's a big "IF", he's proven to have broken the law, then Trump needs to be impeached, removed, and maybe sent to prison, depending on what it is that he's supposed to have done. But until then, honestly, it's all just rumor, inuendo, and fabricated bullshit....
     
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    https://thepoliticalinsider.com/senate-intelligence-committee-russia-collusion/
     
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    I have no idea how you think this means anything.
     
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    Who knows.

    But a witch hunt is a witch hunt; if some black cats and cauldrons show up...
     
  15. kungfuliberal

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    No, it's not the last sentence in your response.....that is the straw grasping hope of his die hard supporters and people confusing his plight with the Reagan-esque wet dream of conservative politics and policies.
     
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    Hillary?

    (And a lotta good it did her...)
     
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  17. Kode

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    Heh heh heh

    Mueller may have some bad news for you next week.
     
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    If you think something in your article demonstrates collusion between the Trump admin and the Kremlin then point it out. Both the House and Senate failed to find any collusion. The House will probably restart investigations now with the hope of finding some. Sounds like they're now trying to play down expectations from the Mueller report.
     
  19. fifthofnovember

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    Yes, quite. Even the article you linked repeatedly states that no evidence of collusion was found after 2 years of investigation. All this article amounts to is "we haven't found anything after a massive investigation, but we still hope we can be proven right somehow". You know what the article didn't include? Evidence of collusion.
    I ignored none of that. The fact is, it proves my point. “If we write a report based upon the facts that we have, then we don’t have anything that would suggest there was collusion by the Trump campaign and Russia” So, are you suggesting that they should base the report on facts they don't have? Because that is the only way, according to the chairman (who I think would know), that the report will contain "anything that suggests collusion."

    Or are you relying on the line that says “What I’m telling you is that I’m going to present, as best we can, the facts to you and to the American people,” Burr told CBS. “And you’ll have to draw your own conclusion as to whether you think that, by whatever definition, that’s collusion”? Because that line is a clear invitation for people who have already made up their minds to just invent their own definition of collusion. I'm not playing that game. The chairman said that there is no evidence of collusion under the real definition.
     
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    Mueller is bound by DOJ policy, Silly!

    28 CFR § 600.7 - Conduct and accountability.


    (a) A Special Counsel shall comply with the rules, regulations, procedures, practices and policies of the Department of Justice.
     
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    What?! Nearly three effing years on and you're still obsessing about Russian 'interference' :roll: in the Presidential election? If the FBI et al haven't gotten to the bottom of it yet surely they never will?

    Don't let nobody say 'And don't call me 'Shirley'!' :donut:
     
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    Schiffting to Phase 2 of Collusion

    Conspiracy theorists look for something new, anticipating a Mueller letdown.

    The collusionists need a “new phase” as signs grow that the special counsel won’t help realize their reveries of a Donald Trump takedown. They had said Mr. Mueller would provide all the answers. Now that it seems they won’t like his answers, Democrats and media insist that any report will likely prove “anticlimactic” and “inconclusive.” “This is merely the end of Chapter 1,” said Renato Mariotti, a CNN legal “analyst.”

    Mr. Schiff turned this week to a dependable scribe—the Washington Post’s David Ignatius—to lay out the next chapter of the penny dreadful. Mr. Ignatius was the original conduit for the leak about former national security adviser Mike Flynn’s conversations with a Russian ambassador, and the far-fetched claims that Mr. Flynn had violated the Logan Act of 1799. Mr. Schiff has now dictated to Mr. Ignatius a whole new collusion theory. Forget Carter Page, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos—whoever. The real Trump-Russia canoodling rests in “Trump’s finances.” The future president was “doing business with Russia” and “seeking Kremlin help.”

    So, no apologies. No acknowledgment that Mr. Schiff & Co. for years have pushed fake stories that accused innocent men and women of being Russian agents. No relieved hope that the country might finally put this behind us. Just a smooth transition—using Russia as a hook—into Mr. Trump’s finances. Mueller who?


    What’s mind-boggling is that reporters would continue to take Mr. Schiff seriously, given his extraordinary record of incorrect and misleading pronouncements. This is the man who, on March 22, 2017, helped launch full-blown hysteria when he said on “Meet the Press” that his committee already had the goods on Trump-Russia collusion.




    https://www.wsj.com/articles/schiffting-to-phase-2-of-collusion-11550794762
     
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    Remember, the "anti-Obama, defend Trump at all cost" GOP ran those investigations....no brainer as to their results. But here's the line that's the stickler, "...While members of the political parties disagree on an ill-defined and so-called “pattern of contacts,” .

    That's what's going on, because the devil is always in the details. https://www.apnews.com/caa303c04adc442aa988169aeb230173
     
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    pure supposition and conjecture here.
     
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    No different than the leftist claims regarding collusion with the Russians.
     
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