Kaepernick Is Still Hoping

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  1. wyly

    wyly Well-Known Member

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    with sporting franchises the employees are the business/product...so not the same as other traditional businesses
     
  2. wyly

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    when employees are treated badly they have the right to strike/protest ...so it follows that if they're required to acknowledge the national anthem during work they have the moral right to not acknowledge that anthem as they see it does not represent them...
    It's like not having to being forced to prey at school or work because it contradicts personal beliefs...
     
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    Thank you for that admission that the rest of business normally do not work like sports businesses.
     
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    Kap's employer didn't treat him badly. The NFL didn't treat him badly. Last I looked prior to the protest Kap was employed by the 49'ers and the NFL. Not by someone else. If you ask me, he was treated quite good and paid quite good.

    Kap brought off the field, read off the job and not related to his job an issue to protest at work. Kap's protest was entirely non-work related. Sure, he had the right to strike, football related, protest if football related at work, but not to protest a non-football related issue at work. It's quite simple, Kap was dead wrong to bring a non-work related, non-SF 49'ers, non-NFL issue to work and protest on the job. Since it was non-work related, he should have and had the right to protest at a rally, march, anywhere he wanted, except on the job.
     
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    Why don't right wingers who claim to believe in civil liberties and unfettered right to freedom of expression support Kaepernick expressing himself as he has done?
     
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    Kaepernick was offered a contract by the Denver Broncos in 2016, but he blew it off: https://broncoswire.usatoday.com/20...-colin-kaepernick-turned-down-denver-broncos/ :spin:

    What's next for Creep-ernick? Maybe he'll go whine and cry to all the Millennials and Gen-Xer's on the late night TV network entertainment shows. Really, if he had any sense, he'd go try to play ball in Canada. They hate Trump so bad up there that somebody would hire the 'Creep' just for spite....
     
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    assuming that's true, that took place 2 seasons ago - how about today?
     
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    The head of the Broncos organization, John Elway, said Creep had his chance and he turned it down. Evidently, the Broncos have moved on and now have the quarterbacks in place they need for the 2018 season. Like I said, Creep could always go to Canada. I'll bet someone up there would hire him....

    [​IMG]. So, why didn't the 49's want him back if he's so GREAT? :roflol:
     
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    Those who defend Kap's rights seem to ignore the rights of the team owners. Kap has a right to kneel and the owners have a right to not hire him. What a great country.
     
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    there are laws in the books that void restraint of trade
     
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    Speak up -- who is restraining what and what trade are you referring to? Exactly how does the law apply?
     
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    This is not the case here.
     
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    Kaepernick is poison, nobody will sign him.
    Even if he offered to play for free.
     
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    I do not believe that Kap was "kneeling .... to draw attention to his belief". That sounds like a news media caption to spice up subscription. If you believe that is what the was doing then you have to believe that is what he replied when the media asked him "why" he was kneeling. I doubt very much that was his reply. He probably said he was protesting the notion that he should be forced to stand when he doesn't want to.
     
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    Bloody hell you say. Elway is white. Don't you know he's lyin'?
     
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    Not all of them are giving up their roles in the NFL's "Guerrilla Theater". The clown show is 'mutating', however.

    Example: At a recent pre-season game these two Denver Broncos players decided instead of standing for then national anthem that they'd hide in "the tunnel": https://www.chatsports.com/washingt...nnel-for-anthem-before-redskins-game-14688559 ... Oh, and the Broncos' head coach, Vance Joseph (who is also Black) claimed not to know anything about it.... :roll:

    Very much of this kind of crap and I predict the Broncos BOSS, John Elway, will get rid of all three of these morons. He needs to sack Joseph anyway, because he's been a total failure as a 'head coach'. His 'Blackness' credential hasn't done much to actually WIN football games.... :spin:
     
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    So, Kap is holding out hope that he will be signed, but he wont accept deals the Broncos and Ravens offered to him, so its the owners fault that hes still unemployed? Poor multi-millionaire. My heart breaks...
     
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    Maybe he could be one of the new NFL male cheerleaders!

    I can just see him on the sidelines.... He could dress up like military fatigues, like some kind of Che Guevara, hold the flag upside-down, and scream to the fans about how unfair and awful the United States is! In America-hating shitholes like Seattle or San Francisco, he'd be 'all the rage' and an 'instant hit'... to say nothing of how entertaining it would be to watch him jumping up and down with that thirty-pound bag of hair flopping around.... :roflol:

    [​IMG]. "Never seen dandruff before?!"
     
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    He should have gone about his protest in a different manner. Well, that and his on field play wasn't outstanding at the time either.
     
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    He started sitting for the anthem when he was already benched. He threw a temper tantrum that he tried to blame on police brutality, Hillary Clinton, and "other stuff".
     
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    I think that was just his way of pointing out your childish logic....

    And If you drop Kapernicks first year he stunk as a QB. He's Tebow in sort of black face. The problem with the NFL is that one trick ponies is that the NFL figures out your trick in short order, and then you'll be lucky if you don't get hurt.
     
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    I support Trump (especially when he stays the hell AWAY from idiotic crap like Twitter). Putin? He's a respected adversary... and so in Xi Jinping. If you don't at least respect your adversaries, especially when they're SMARTER than you are, you are making at least two mistakes....

    Understand, we don't have a lot of 'wiggle-room' to get away with being stupid anymore! We had eight awful years under Idiot "W" Bush, and that was followed by eight more horrible years under Idiot Obama. Meanwhile, both Russia and China grew more and more powerful, capable, and dangerous militarily. We don't have the LUXURY of fighting with ourselves anymore! But we do....
     
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    Now that makes no sense.
     
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    Trump has done twice as much damage in less than two years than Bush/Obama did in sixteen.
     
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