Kamela Harris is Not Eligible to Become President

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Even Daniel waffled on this. Sorry, but this just isn't how our country works, no matter how much you wish it would. Daniel says that citizenship follows the FATHER. Harris's father is an American citizen. You realize that, right?
     
  2. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Again, fake argument. The Constitution doesn't need to be amended. You are trying to rewrite it. I'm going with how it was originally written and with the 14th Amendment.
     
  3. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Legislation does not over-ride the Constitution.
    Not when you are born when your biological mother and father are both still foreigners. Neither had been naturalized when Kamala was born... She is not a natural born citizen. It is that simple.
     
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  4. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Legislation? Amendment. Amendment. Yes, Amendments do change the Constitution. That's what the word ****ing means. Hell, THE CONSTITUTION ITSELF SPECIFICALLY STATES THIS.


    Her father is was a citizen. She was, in addition to that, born here. Your made-up changed to citizenship law do not matter.
     
  5. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Natural Born means Natural Childbirth by a US Citizen.
     
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    Trump shouldn't be president by your reasoning
     
  7. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but that's not how it works in the US. You don't have to like it. You don't even have to accept it. But that is reality.
     
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    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    You're forgetting McCain. He had to prove his citizenship because he was born in the Panama Canal and not the US while his father was stationed there in the Navy.

    So much for your theory.
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She was born in Oakland California, 14th Amendment to the constitution makes her a natural born citizen.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-citizen-eligible-serve-president/3344836001/

    and

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/08/kamala-harris-is-eligible-to-serve-as-president/


    and

    https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/a25997756/kamala-harris-citizenship/
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can go back to at least 1964, Goldwater born in the Arizona Territory before it became a state was challenged. But the suit dropped when it became apparent he was going to lose by a landslide. A few Democrats questioned McCain who was born in Panama, his father was on official duty for the U.S. Navy. No lawsuits were brought. 1968 George Romney, Mitt's father was a presidential candidate, his citizenship was also questioned. He was born in Mexico while George's parents were on mission for the Later Day Saints, Mormon church.

    You could take it back even further as in 1880 Chester A. Arthur had his citizenship question, Charles Evan Hughes in 1916, the republican presidential candidate who lost to Wilson was claimed to be born in Wales. That was wrong.

    So these things about birth right citizenship do come up for someone other than just a black man or woman.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I get it like how Democrats were on McCain's V.P choice
    Sarah Palin worse than starving flies at a garbage can.
    No matter if the top was on.
     
  12. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Just pointing out you are dishing out accusations that apply just as well to you, if not better, and don't appear to apply to those your are accusing. All you are doing is projecting your hypocrisy onto others and/or ignoring egregious hypocrisy on your side and projecting it onto others. If you want more mature arguments, you'll need to produce some of your own. You've failed to do so thus far.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So she wins the Boobie Prize ... eh.
    I wonder what Catholics will say nationwide after they find out
    what Harris pulled in San Fransico as lead prosecutor when she
    purposedly Hid and suppressed formal complaints as to Catholic
    Priests in the District being accused of Rape.Those Victims and their
    families of Priest Abuse { rape } under Harris were never resolved.
    While 50 cities nationwide were making sure to honorably address the
    Catholic Church Priest Scandal,Harris used it to Pad her account.
    She Profitted personally to the legal limit for siding with those in charge
    of the Catholic Diocese in San Fransico for BURRYING the Priest scandal.
    She made money { Campaign } for Refusing to address any Prosecution of
    Priest abuse in Catholic Churches in San Fransico.
    She even went so far as to make sure the Press was never allowed to
    read transcripts or formal Inquiry.She Refused it.Then years later
    those Papers { Documents } went missing.
    Kamala Harris is a Shunk is Sheeps clothing Masquerating as a
    Notable " person of Color ".
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    She "won" the same "prize" as Trump did to get his citizenship. The same thing. Catch up.
     
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    Was she born via C-section? Only that might disqualify her. Otherwise, the citizenship status of her mom at the time is irrrelevant.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I never said or Implied she wasn't an American Citizen.
    But she did live as a 12 year old in Montreal.
    And one of her Parents was born in India.
    We're back to moronic same old,same old Birther hysteria.
    It managed to greatly shield Barack Obama.
    However if not for True Americans like Sean Hannity we
    would never have known or dwelt on the Fiasco known as
    Reverend Jeremiah Wright.Obama's Pastor at Chicago's Trinity
    Baptist Church who married the Obama's and Baptized their kids.
    Wright a close friend of Chicago neighbor Louis Farrakhan.
    Obama managing to Diss his own Grandmother with his faux
    Philly { I have a Dream Speech }.
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Up till now, this election has Trump front and centered. Who his opponent is means little. Quite a lot of folks are just plain sick and tied of Trump's childish antics. So far policy, what Trump has done or hasn't done as president has taken a backseat to his very distasteful and unpresidential personality.

    I'm keeping a very close watch on how independents perceive Trump. The Republican Party is still the smaller of the two major parties, if Trump and company lose the independent vote, they lose the election. Right now 24% like Trump 47% dislike him. Today 26% of independents like Biden, 31% dislike him. Back in 2016 the numbers on election day were 57% of independents disliking Trump, 70% disliking Clinton. an 13 point advantage for Trump in the dislike column. Today Biden has that advantage 16 points worth. That a swing of 29 points from 2016

    Now it's early, these numbers will change. But they note a very steep uphill climb for Trump. Why is the dislike numbers important, history shows people usually don't vote for someone they dislike. I'd keep a very close eye on independents. Biden can afford a split or even lose the independent vote by 3 or 4 points and still win. Trump must win them or else he's gone. The Biden/Harris ticket has the luxury of being the candidates of the larger party.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are confusing and conflating " antics " with how he deals with
    policy and results.Yes,Trump lives to boast and poke fun at his rivals.
    But he's more than entitled to that given what hand he's been dealt.
    Imagine how the History books will have to deal with on the very day of
    his Inauguration he was treated with huge mobs of Protests and being
    Framed by little Obama sidekick Susan Rice.As she sent herself at 12:15 on
    January 20th,2017 a last gasp act in an E-mail as Trump was being
    Inaugurated.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump's mother had already been a US citizen for four years in 1946.
     
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    perotista Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, I just don't think policy and results as you put it isn't front and centered with a lot of independent voters. What is is the Trump they see calling others names, throwing temper tantrums, behaving as a spoiled four year old brat instead of a president. For many independents the presidential election is nothing more than a beauty contests, a contest of likes and dislikes between the candidates. You seen this in the 2018 midterms, where despite what Republicans were spouting as a great economy, they took a whipping. The results was for independents, let's voice our dislike of Trump as a person, an individual, a president who doesn't act like one.

    Can Trump overcome his schoolyard bullying persona and win these independents back. I doubt it. But we'll see. Trump is a very easy man to dislike. Policy and results might not mean much compared to his childish behavior and antics. We'll see.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Funny how the drop off seems to be in effect.


    But regardless of how much the media will protect her, the fact remains that Kamala Harris is a fitting running mate for Joe of the thousand gaffs.
     
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    Forty-three years and yesterday. Yea, those two time frames are exactly the same.

    Biden was not my first choice, but Trump and his minions are racist now. Today. And they are destroying the country. They must be removed and the stain of Trumpism must be relegated to the dustpan of history. Nothing is more important.
     
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    United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898 )
     
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    I never said it was legal doctrine. I did say that it provided the framers of the Constitution with the meaning of a term they used in the Constitution. You keep bringing up the 14th Amendment. Your browser must be more advanced than mine. When I search the 14th Amendment for "natural born citizen" or "natural-born citizen", I come up with 0 results. Why not search the 14th Amendment and post the results you get so I can message Mozilla that their browser is broken.
     
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    Your assumption that the phrase represents some third form of citizenship has been rejected by the courts. The Constitution says there are two ways to become a citizen, not three. By birth or naturalization. That's it. She is a citizen by natural birth.
     

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