Kayleigh McEnany Leaves White House Press Hacks Speechless After Ending Presser with a Video of Poli

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  1. notme

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    We're not talking about "interactions" were talking about cops. And so I be sticking to 6.6% complaints vs 100 cops. With your own personal idea that this is underreported like crazy / I proved that the cops have an utterly nasty issue with registering complaints... means that it's a substantial % we're talking about.

    Do note that racism is institutionalized in the police. All statistics show this. And you do not get such a wide discrepancy how black people are treated different compared to white people... by just having them "few bad apples". That's a myth. I just posted in 200 how the cops treat the press. Do note... 1 guy is directly aiming and firing at the press. No cop intervenes. They are ALL the same. All of them. Just like Floyd. No cop came to the rescue. Them cops cover each other no matter what. It's a totally rotten and poisonous culture. Just like they shoved that elderly man in the hospital with a broken skull in the hospital. They all closed rank on it.
     
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    No see we are talking about interactions. If that cop has 5,000 interactions in a year and has ONE complaint against him. How does that one complaint rule out the thousands of other good interactions? And moreover what was so different about that time with the complaint than the other times with no complaint?

    You can’t destroy the entire system because of a falsified perception. That’s absurd.
     
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    I fully understand you don't care that statistics prove that systematic racism is everywhere in the US justice system to be found. It's easier to pretend to live a in fairy tale and sell it anonymously on iffy forums.
     
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    No such proof exists. For example, a BLACK district attorney in Atlanta just stated that the black man recently shot was "cordial", and filed charges of murder against a white cop. The videos tell a totally different story, clearly show the guy suddenly erupted into violence, fighting the arresting officers, wrestling for their weapons and successfully taking a taser, then firing the taser at the officer. No doubt on that whatsoever. Georgia law specifically identifies a taser as a deadly weapon, and an officer is authorized to use lethal force in defending against a deadly weapon.
    The Atlanta police force is 58% black.

    It would appear that if any systemic racism exists there, it is against white officers and white people.

    Gullible people all over the country are buying in to the various rants about things like this. These mayors who are hiding in their closets and saying things they certainly don't believe and know are wrong for example- show how cowardice in the face of extortion gang behavior has turned them to jelly- made fools of them. Young people going actually accepting the idea that guilt comes with your race- IF it's white. Doesn't get more racist than that message- and the is being taught in colleges, promoted on the media- and THAT IS SYSTEMIC RACISM. Being promoted within the system.

    Racism exists in SOME people- always has, always will- and a lot of those people are black. That is human, not systemic. Society has bent over backwards in every fashion to help black people, and right now- getting nothing but abuse for having done so; making those who have worked to help question the wisdom of it. We are watching the BLM and trash on the street PROMOTING racism, not ending it. They are profiting from it and the more of it they can imply exists, the more weak minds they can get to echo the claim, the more powerful they get, the more money and concessions flow their way. Political war, using racist motives and gullible people as the pawns and cannon fodder.

    So you support that. Hate is becoming systemic, which means people are being taught it, indoctrinated into it, rewarded for it. You are buying it. That is systemic. You've been sucked into the righteousness of hate, and you volunteered.
     
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    A cop is either part of institutionalized racism or a cop is not. That aint a part time thing depending on the interaction. That is absurd.
     
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    Institutionalized implies it is policy. You will not find that anywhere. You will of course find individual racism because cops are humans. You may find some places where some of those in charge of police departments are tolerant of racism because of their own views. You will not find racism as an accepted policy either written or understood except in these little individual or small pockets.

    The idea racism is systemic, is institutionalized, is what justifies attacking all police because they are police- and that is one hell of a prejudice, as well as one that will backfire on the people promoting it, because the police are the only thing that stands between them and the thugs they are giving power to.

    Kind of like advocating burning someone else's home as a protest against police, then finding your own home is being burned and there is no one coming to help because you helped destroy them to end abuse. People who find themselves in that position deserve it.

    I don't know of anyone who objects to removing racist police- and I don't think you do either.
     
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    Got your prove right here:
    https://www.hamiltonproject.org/cha...y_race_rates_of_drug_related_criminal_justice
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    Any freaking idiot can directly spot that the % of white people who ends up in jail is INCREDIBLE much lower than black people. You just assume these facts don't exists while these facts have been published for decades. And it all starts that the predominantly white police force arrests black people about 3 times more often than white people.


    It's time for you to acknowledge facts how things go down in all of the US. You bringing up 1 example does not come close to portrait an accurate picture. And the data of the FBI simply and unquestionably show how black people are systematically are being discriminated by the police force.


    If you want, I could also put up how black people systematically get a tougher sentence vs white people when taking all kinds of things in mind like previous convictions etc. But it's time you go make an effort and find out yourself and get out of that freaking bubble not based on anything.
     
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    Nope. It's how people apply their racist/bias nature without a policy.

    I put up post 207 where you can clearly see that black people are treated differently within the same laws meant for all by the individual cops. It makes clear and undoubtedly that racism is utterly wide spread.

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    The statistics of the FBI show how the police and the entire justice department are treating the black community have been around for decades. They cops and the politicians have either failed or probably more likely refused to address this. Do note... cops are rather simple civil servants. The pay aint great, because the requirements are really low. Indeed... civil servants, paid by taxes... to SERVE. And subsequently you can treat them like that and do a complete overhaul or whatever to get that service that you demand.

    People who protest and people who loot... are not one and the same. That's a very shallow misconception in order to ignore that the cops failed to address wide spread racism among their ranks for decades.
     
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    None of this addresses the attitudes and issues that affect the sentences. People who are respectful in court and regret their actions get lighter sentences. People who make it plain they think they only reason they are there is because they are black- are probably going to get a stiffer one, just as a white person with a bad attitude would.

    Black people have been given a great deal of tolerance, a lowering of requirements and standards and even had special rules imposed on society to give them preference- and sadly, that is usually not appreciated at all.

    I'm not inexperienced here, for example I helped build a housing project constructing 100 new brick homes for low income people. There may have been white tenants- but I never saw one.
    I was with a group of people doing an inspection tour of 10 those houses, vacated and chosen at random, and none more than 6 month old. The subsidized rent was calculated depending on income- but averaged $30, about 6% of market at the time. One house of the 10 would have been livable with a normal clean up, all the rest needed major repairs. People angry with the deal tore them up. At one house, the architect with us who opened the door took one step in- then came running out and puked. Human feces in the kitchen sink. Heating vents had been used as urinals, and I don't know what else. Another had massive floor damage, which the administrators (all black, working for government) wanted to use to support a demand the builder replace all floors in all 100 houses. However the neighbor by that house explained that the guy had been forced to move out because he was selling drugs and hadn't listed that income on his application. So, being angry he put a garden hose in the window, and turned on the water before he drove away to get even for the injustice done to him. In a meeting with the black administrators, I stated that the problems they were having weren't coming from defects in quality or workmanship, but from the nature of the tenants they rented to. I was immediately told to get out. This of course was not a situation that involved one or two, it involved dozens of black people in a variety of positions. Should I have taken that as the image of all black people? I assure I was disgusted, but I did not. However it was a lesson in why people may discriminate racially.

    The greatest harm of all this is to the image of the good black people, and most are- but the percentage of people who aren't seems to be pretty strong. They come on with hostility as if you had already offended them, and owe them even more than an apology. Systemic hate, you might say.

    It's a complicated thing- where some may have prejudice, some none, or like me- have reason for but chose not to allow the bad acts of some to taint my view of others.
    You may think cops hate blacks, but I can assure you blacks hate cops and often show it, bringing that same hostility. And the people doing that do not care who the cop is- he's bad because he's a cop. The uniform or the badge is just like skin color to a true racist- all they need to judge you evil. That would be a form of racism, wouldn't it? Prejudice based on your uniform or job? Illegal if you refuse to hire on that basis, rent on that basis, hate crime in certain situations. Unless you are black, then it's ok.....

    Racism is not limited by skin color. I've know a number of racists in my life, but the worst racists I've ever known were black- and brought most of their own problems on by being so.

    I give everybody respect up front. Doesn't mean I lend them my car or anything, but I do give them no reason to feel disrespected. IF they act the same, we are going to do fine. IF they show they hate white people, and I am one- then we aren't, and basically I'm just going to have nothing to do with them. Their choice. An awful lot of black people carry a hostile attitude and expect to be treated well in spite of it. They aren't, and that is human nature that will apply to anyone regardless of color.
     
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    I know its what's on the "inside" that counts, but damn! SHE FINE!
     
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    Kayleigh McEnany-
    I second that.
    Certainly easy on the eyes, and destroys the dumb blond theory too.
     
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    Nope. This addresses how cops themselves got racism institutionalized by proving they are arresting black people on a FAR and FAR higher rate than white people while their are equally criminal. And you're not commenting on how the police behaves.

    If you want me to produce the statistics how black people and white people get sentences with similar background... than I indeed am able to prove black people are sentences harsher. But it seems you never bothered to look this up, and assume it's all fair.

    The behavior of white people has been tolerated for far too long. I proved how the predominantly white police force got racism institutionalized,... and you're not even responding to this.

    I do not care about alleged personal experiences of an anonymous poster of iffy forums.


    I proved my case that the % of bad cops who got a racist attitude against black people must be massive. You don't get them stats otherwise that I previously sourced. Add to that, that when 2 cops knocked an elderly in the hospitals with a broken skull over virtually nothing at all was met that the entire team backed up this obvious case of police brutality. This is just how Floyd died as well. One guy does it, and he's backed up by his buddies. This is also how cops have targeted the press all over the country when reporting without a single other cop correcting them on the spot. That's besides all the other cases of police brutality we've all seen in the last weeks.

    You complain now about the image of black people due to some small %. The complaint against the predominantly white police force due to an utterly massive % of bad cops is being overlooked by you. And I add... the police force are civil servants, paid by taxpayers... to SERVE the people who are arresting black people because of their skin color at a much higher rate.

    Statistics prove that black people are right to have a reason to hate cops. They are racially targeted by them. And I mean sure... I put up an example about drugs use / sellers and race. But there is a lot more to be found. Driving while back is also really a thing that is proven to be with statistics,.. and it's worse if you know that cops find that white people -when pulled over- more often have contraband on them. It just is. And I don't think you realized this, or even accept it.... and rather pretend that the US aint like that no matter what kind of prove a person like me is able to show.

    That's nice. But that doesn't change the reality at hand.
     
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    Absentee voting is perfectly acceptable. Even the NYT's admits that even in recent primaries, MAIL IN Voting has been a complete disaster. Don't let Dumb Don Lemon do all your thinking for you.

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    Sour Grapes.
     
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    But she is the type to work for that same media if they offered her a job. She has no integrity. They will do whatever they have to in order to suck up a buck.
     
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