Kenosha police union gives its account of Jacob Blake shooting

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  1. Denizen

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    American police have a policy of shoot to kill on the basis that a dead man can't be a witness against them.
     
  2. Denizen

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    Your "descendants"? Are they born yet?
     
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    Have you been through simulated training? Are you aware how many officers die because the wmake the wrong decision? Did you know Blake had fought with officers, been tased and was still resisting? Did the idea occur to you that Blake might be after a weapon when he fearlessly leaned into his car appearing to retrieve perhaps a weapon?? Is it fair for you to judge, while in the plush safety of your home, that this officer should have given Blake another chance to possibly end the officers life?
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you called me a liar in a previous post, then fail to respond when I supplied you with a credible training film that showed I was correct. you just seem to hate police so.....go your merry way!
     
  5. Pollycy

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    Often we read accounts of situations in which a black 'perp' is tased (you know, with a TASER), but it doesn't have any real effect!

    Question: if 'tasing' doesn't work, and the 'perp' fights arrest, putting a police officer into a HEADLOCK, then what the hell are the police supposed to do...? Start singing a couple of verses of "Kumbaya" to him?!:party:

    [​IMG] . Police officer of the future in Democrat-ruled cities.... :psychoitc:
     
  6. Pollycy

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    What planet are you on, "AP"...? The last news account I saw indicated that Jacob Blake is alive and in stable-condition in a hospital.

    And, if you've been paying any attention at all, you know that Blake was named in a three-count criminal complaint even before the police were called to a 'domestic violence' complaint involving him! "Innocent"...? Bullshit!

    It scares the hell out of me that people with your degree of, uh, 'perspicacity' are allowed to VOTE in this country.... :hiding:
     
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    Problem with a .357 Mag is that the lighthouse of the casing makes it practical for resolvers only. Otherwise the magazine would have to forward of the trigger housing and handle grip. That makes for acumersome weapon like the pistols that are based on AR15 clones.

    Still the Blake case looks very bad on the surface. I do not know if here were body Cams going but that would help.
     
  8. Bluesguy

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    And because the MSM is engaged in their lies of omission it looks bad ON THE SURFACE

    USA Today story this morning about the shooting by the 17 year old

    "It was past 11 p.m. local time Tuesday, the third night of protests after a Kenosha police officer shot Jacob Blake seven times in the back. "
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...enhouse-shoot-protest-jacob-blake/5675987002/

    That's it about what trigger these events. Just a "surface" report leaving out all the pertinent facts like he was armed, want on a felony warrant had priors including violent acts with lethal weapons, that the police knew this as they were called to the scene where he was threatening people that he resisted arrested and wrestled with the police WHILE armed and then tried to leave the scene refusing to drop the weapon, opened the car door and reached in as if reaching for another weapon. USA makes it out as if the police just walked up behind him and shot him in the back for no reason.

    THAT is what has cause all of this and USA Today and the rest of the MSM should be called to task for their purposely slanted and deceiving reporting.
     
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    From the responses I have read they are just supposed to let them go. That is the new policing reform, if the criminal doesn't want to be arrested they have to just let them go.
     
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    The reports I've seen indicate that the police force in Kenosha was too broke to afford body cams for its officers.... So, they'll have to come to their determinations in court the old-fashioned way, which should be quite good enough to completely exonerate the police officer on any and all charges... except maybe for poor marksmanship.... :lol:

    You're right about .357 mags... but they are very suitable in revolvers, and one thing you can say about revolvers is that they don't jam. They typically can't hold more than six rounds, but if you have a couple of speed-loaders, ready to go, you can easily equip with more ammo rapidly, as I'm sure you know. Also, I like the versatility of a .357, because you can shoot so many different types of ammo, including .38 Special.
     
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    You are totally on target about the .357..... sorry I couldn't help firing off a pun.
     
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    They saved the kumbaya and praises for Rittenhouse, the kid literally looking for trouble.
     
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    That only applies to those who fight the charges in court and not those that fight the police. Being a cop doesn't mean you deserve to be executed.
     
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    I disagree that the media triggers these events. That concept or allegation could have had a chance of sounding plausible before video cams and not a ghost of a chance at credibility since the advent and proliferation of the cell phone with camera and audio.

    The allegation that you are postering claiming that Blake was "armed" is bunk or put in PC terms "unsustainable " . Blake was reaching for something in his car and logically that something was a weapon. That is the only weapon that was found in the. Acinity of Blake and certainly the only one within reach after he walked to the car. No other weapon was foundand that weaponwas not ever in Blakes possession during the incident because he was neutralized before he was able to reach it. USA does not make it out as if "police just walked up behind him and shot him in the back." They state what happened and what happened is that he was shot in the back seven times.

    The excuses I heard but those who are not waiting for the investigation before declaring him as the sole cause of his own shooting are:
    - Blake had priors. , like in that matters in an incident that ate up 3 minutes plus few seconds
    - Blake was wanted for "rape"
    - Blake had outstanding warrants

    Any or all of those things may be true and as standalone points really bad for Blake but they have no bearing on Blake having or not having a weapon directly h in his hands during the take down of Blake.
     
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    Why didn’t they handcuff him at that point.
     
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    Touche sir.

    Yet you didnt address the meat of my post, which isn't surprising tbh.
     
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    They ARE supposed to use lethal force when their lives are at stake.
     
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    They were trying to DUH, he resisted and fought with them getting one in a headlock and then the police saw the knife he had.
     
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    ONE Shot would have been sufficient. NOT 7.
     
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    They attempted to arrest him. He resisted, brushed off the Taser, two times. The police got into a physical altercation with the subject in the attempt to effect the legal detention for the outstanding warrants, he bested them putting one in a headlock. He then ran from the legal detention and attempted to gain access to his car to continue his escape. Kids were in and around the car.

    The police stopped him at that point before it got any worse. It wasn't going to get better when he gained control of the car.

    Fleeing felons get stopped. The felon here chose the method.
     
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    As I just showed you they do exactly that with their lies of omission and this is just the lastest for THIS case I posed another over the weekend. And the videos IF you show the earlier one and not just the first show that fight and struggle that took place that the MSM doesn't report. And no those claims he was armed are NOT bunk you hear the police in the video shouting for him to drop the knife, we have the police union statement from the officers that they reason they had to back off and TASE him was because he brandished a knife. And then he walked around the front of the car and opened the door as if going for another weapon..............BAM.

    And you just followed course posting as if the ONLY think that happened was he was shot in the back, that "lie of omission" the MSM engages.

    And those "excuses" are facts that were known to the police before they arrived, what were those priors? Well how about assault with a deadly weapon? And what did he indicate with his behavior, he was willing to assault police officers and was going for another weapon in the car to go along with the one already in his hand. The police had not only a right but a duty to stop him by whatever force was necessary including lethal.
     
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    Where did the first shot hit him?
     
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    Depends on the location of the wound.
     
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    If the criminal wants a judge and jury then submit to the arrest. If he wants to end up dead the resist arrest with a lethal weapon and try to reach for another one or give the police every reason to believe you are and you will be stopped using lethal force if necessary.
     
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    He already had a knife he appeared to going for another weapon
     

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