Kenosha police union gives its account of Jacob Blake shooting

Post a link to the video that shows him with a knife at any point prior to the second he was shot. I will be glad to view it and if I can clearly see a knives I will then agree that he had one. At least show a video of the event with Blake in it that at least has audio of the police telling him to "drop the knife".

You are accusing the media of fabricating a story by omission. Show the link to back up your theory.

 

The original video you hear the police yelling for him to drop the knife and that was confirmed by the witnesses, that is in ALL the reporting now you are being obtuse.

 

If the cop would have stopped after ONE (like he should have) that would be a very easy question.

As it is, that Cop appeared as an Untrained, Homicidal, Sociopath who got lucky that he didn't kill Blake.

 

Not being obtuse but I have yet to see a "report " where that is heard. I have watchecand listened to a several. Notice I said report not opinion pices from either side.

 

Well that didn't clear up anything.

So he was armed with the knife or it was in his car on the floor? He put a police officer in a headlock and NO witness saw that?

I guess all you've done is posted an account, but little evidence is presented to back it up. Furthermore, since when did a Union become a trusted source of information for the right?

I don't doubt Blake did SOMETHING, the question is did it warrant the use of deadly force? Evidence will need to be provided to support the police union's statement, which is a natural and normal thing to expect.

 

sadly the point is my post was to highlight he had no idea what he was taking about

 

i was just reported twice for my comment

 

Can you imagine, the woke crowd overreacting before knowing the entire truth. How unusual indeed.

 

You've not seen the later video showing the wrestling on the ground? Really? He was armed with the knife and dropped it when he was shot. And yes being an armed violent criminal being taken into custody and fighting with the police resisting that arrest and trying to flee and by all appearances reaching for another weapon justifies use of deadly force.

 

I fail to see the head lock.

I have never disputed he did nothing that say.

And reaching for what other weapon?

Also, if someone attacked me with a knife, wouldn’t that allow me as a cop or otherwise to shoot him? If they thought he was strolling to the car to get a season, why didn’t they run after him or shoot him prior to getting to the car door? Why the slow pace of the whole event?

All of those responses seem much more natural and explainable to me. My questions are not answered by the OP’s article. Perhaps you can answer them with facts and evidence and not personal conjecture and opinion?

 

We'll see how this 'tug-of-war' plays out in court, which won't happen (of course) until at least this time next year.

My guess is that the city will offer Blake several million dollars to make the problem go away, even though it will be clearly shown that the police officer violated no protocols or proper procedures. The cop will be offered a better job somewhere else, probably in a state where law enforcement officers are highly-valued, and that'll be the end of that....

The only thing 'bad' about the officer was his marksmanship, evidently, because unless he was using anything more powerful than a PELLET PISTOL, Blake should already be quite dead after getting plugged SEVEN TIMES.... I still don't understand this. If you shoot ANYTHING seven times with a 9mm (that's the current story about the weapon the cop had), and at such close range, then 999 times out of 1,000 the 'something' that was shot is going to die!

If all that's true then my long-held low opinion of the 9mm as a self-defense round is sustained.

 

Well, Andy, you 'shoot' as many times as it takes to put a 'perp' DOWN. But, what is generally taught in police academies is, "Two in the chest, and one in the head". Of course, if the perp has been resisting arrest, fighting you, putting you in a headlock, turned his back to get his hands on who-knows-what, then maybe that's grounds for, uh, 'bending the rules'....

But I agree -- seven shots?! If that policeman was using a 9-millimeter pistol (as the story goes), then I can only guess that the Kenosha police department must have bought the crappiest ammunition available anywhere in the world, with powder that was little better than DIRT. Do we know for sure that they weren't using rubber bullets or something else equally worthless...?

 

I don't want to enter your mind.

Training films are propaganda.

 

Yeah, he should have stayed in Illinois, minding his own damned business. It's amazing how much trouble we save ourselves in life when we do that! But, if 'trouble' comes on YOUR property, and threatens YOU, then that's a different matter altogether....

 

So according to you, police have to wait for someone to obtain a weapon before it's ok to defend themselves?

You do not live in reality.

I can't speak for other families but I'll never have to worry about it because my family members obey orders when stopped by police.

 

Should protesters also stay home and mind their own damned business if they are not from the same state or town? What about people that see a crime happening and they are not from the same state or town? Even if they know that they can stop that crime from happening?

 

I'll let you answer your own question. Look at what has happened to the people who left their homes, journeyed far away into other cities and states, and gotten horribly and tragically involved in all kinds of anarchic turmoil, rioting, and events that in many cases got them in a hell of a lot of trouble, or ruined their lives totally.

Through the years, I've seen that the happiest people are the ones who prepare for every kind of trouble they can, but then -- "Lock their doors, load their weapons, and mind their own damned business!"

When a person goes looking for a pile of sh!t to step in, they usually find it -- and then almost invariably, they end up tracking it all over their own house!

 

Just thought of something else. If it is true that the police told him to drop the knife that must mean that he was posing a threat at that point in time.
So for the police to see a knife in his hands he must have been facing the police. So why are 't the police saying what he did with the knife?

So since there was no knife in his hands when he ran away towards his van that threat with the alleged knife vaporized.
So he must have complied and ceased posing a threat at that point in time.
As as he ran towards the van no knife was visible.

So Blake was shot why?

Because he ran?
Because he was reaching for something unknown from his van?
Because he was a threat when he got to the van?
Because he could possibly become a threat if he reached his van?
But he never retrieved the whatever he was
reaching for in the Van. Later police said that they found a knife. Not going to dispute that.
Was shooting him at the Van only way to stop the possibity that Blake was going to reach a weapon?

Blake never reached the weapon?
So the police aborted Blake's attempt to retrieve a weapon?
But when the police shot him he had no weapon in his hands or on him, right.

Youbsee that the case has many questions but few answers.

 

They don't know he's only reaching for a knife (as if that's not bad enough).

Like Michael Jackson said, "It don't matter if you're black or white", you pull that crap on any cop and you will get shot.

 

Staying home is all well and good. But sometimes more is accomplished by going out. As an introvert with a slight case of agoraphobia even I know this. Staying home only lets a problem perpetuate. If it perpetuates long enough then the problem will end up on your doorstep. And a vast majority of the time, a loaded weapon will not help resolve the problem.

 

He was fighting with them, pulled the knife, they saw it, they backed off and tried to TASE him TWICE. What are you talking about?

Go back and look at the still shot where there is something in his hand.

But you miss the point entirely, the police BELIEVED HE HAD A LETHAL WEAPON. And REASONABLY so, that is all that matters and of course the criminal admits he had the knife and they found.

I have already stated repeatedly try refuting it?


GEEZ aren't your reading the reports???

Yes among other reasons

Yes among other reasons

And before

Even more a threat than he already was.

Because he was shot he already admitted to the investigators he had a knife why are you trying to pretend otherwise?

He dropped it into the vehicle.

 

The police say they saw the knife during the fight and you clearly hear them telling him to drop it and the witnesses confirm that. That is why they tried to TASE him TWICE.

You DO agree this criminal should be facing additional charges over those the police were trying to arrest him on in the outstanding warrants don't you?

 

Do people in your family have outstanding warrants for felonies including sexual assault and priors for using a lethal weapon and tend to fight with police and pull lethal weapons on them and refuse to comply with being arrested? That's the type of people your family produces?

 

Portland Police Allowed "Aaron Danielson" to bleed out on the street after pushing and clubbing away two BLM medics from a still living victim. To "Lie Enforcement," we are all just fodder.

Police Stop BLM Medic From Helping Shooting Victim

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I am going to take apart your post from bottom up. You say that " He dropped it ( the knife) into the vehicle". If he dropped the knife into the vehicle that means that he was no longer armed so why shoot him if his was unarmed after he dropped the knife into the vehicle??
If he dropped the knife into the vehicle it means that he was not armed when he was shot! Why shoot an unarmed man?

If Blake was armed with a knife as you say and he was walking away from the Police how is he a threat at the point in time that he is walking away from the police?

Other people on the country claim that Blake was taking something out of the vehicle that could have possibly been a weapon.

Which is it??? Did he drop the knife into the vehicle or did he take a weapon out of the vehicle??

You cannot have it both ways. He either dropped the knife into the van or he took it out of the van,. Which is it?