Khadafi Deposed - Does Obama get any Credit?

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  1. TheLastBoyScout

    TheLastBoyScout New Member

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    Obama's certainly gotten blame for the duration and the details of our engagement in Libya, but in military conflict, the end result is usually what matters most.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/libya-video/8720676/Libya-world-reacts-to-the-fall-of-Col-Gaddafis-regime.html

    We went in to supposedly stop a massacre, but then it became a mission to assist the Libyan rebels in taking out Khadafi. For all intents and purposes, Khadafi is now out of power. The rebels have now essentially achieved the primary and secondary military objectives....theirs and ours.

    Obama's plan from the beginning was not to put boots on the ground and not to destroy the infrastructure of the country so that we would be responsible for yet another nation-build. This depended on us counting on European forces and on the rebels themselves, so it was a gamble.


    When the conflict in Libya appeared to not be going well, Obama got a lot of blame. Now that it seems to be working out quite well, does he deserve credit?
     
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    "Khadafi Deposed - Does Obama get any Credit?"

    No.
     
  3. Caroljo

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    Whatever....and when we find out the "rebels" that will be taking over (that we helped!) are all terrorists (muslim brotherhood, Al Queda, etc) he'll get the credit for that one too then!!
     
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    _Inquisitor_ Well-Known Member

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    Obama deserves 100% credit for
    1.breaking the American Constituion
    2. Breaking the International laws.
    3. Breaking the concept of a just war.
    4. Inflicting death, injuries and suffering on Lybian civilians, women and children.
    5. Supporting criminals and terrorists.

    It is just a short list.

    And the full credit has been given to him in the form of the Nobel peace prize. What else do you want?
     
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    LOLOL.. Libya is tribal.. That's the concrete stuff of Libya.. not much room for AQ or Muslim Brotherhood.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm surprised the liberal media isn't proclaiming Obama yanked Khadafi off his throne between holes 3 and 4, and went on to birdie the 5th. Sort of how he got all sorts of undue credit with Bin Laden...
     
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    Kind of sounds like the Iraq War......did you support that?...and accuse Bush of all the same?
     
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    I thought you wanted to talk about Obama and Libya?
     
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    I would have liked to see Obama get Congressional Approval.
     
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    Exactly. Thanks for exibiting the mentality of Obama supporters. When a criminal kills it is ok because cops kill too. Equating cops and criminals because they both kill is one of main features of the mentality of Democrats. That's why people who support Obama have a criminal mentality. Not good for america.
     
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    conservatives have been rooting against our president and our country since this started

    who knew they were so tight with Khadaffi.

    maybe its his taste in artwork they admire.

    [​IMG]
     
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    TheLastBoyScout New Member

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    Possible Double Standards are always in play.....and I was expecting Inquisitor to answer the question I posed to him.

    Do you speak for Inquisitor? or wish to express your own thoughts on the Iraq/Bush parallel?
     
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    This is logical baloney. Dear Leader From Behind was in and out of the picture in March. He had next to nothing to do with the process after that. His entire part in this play is based on his judgments and decisions in that first month. And they sucked.

    Europe was evacuating citizens in late February. We were late to that party. ~March 3rd, Obama declared "KQGaddahffffi MUST GO!". Or what? Or.....nothing. Or I'll huff and I'll puff....That empty threat gave false hope to the rebels during a time when they were reasonably successful, influencing their tactics, costing civilian lives, changing the path of the war. No aid came. Hamlet mulled it over, never able to lead. Again. Almost three weeks past before Obama decided to act. By that time the rebels were in poor shape, many civilians were dead and the effort needed to boost them to victory was many times more than it would have been on March 3rd.

    Epic fail for indecision. Obama is the worst leader in his position EVER.

    Was his decision correct? Doesn't matter. It wasn't timely. It wasn't the work of a leader. It was clearly the work of a community organizer wayyyy out of his depth. Again.

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    In all fairness, the international community and the US was anxious to go back into Libya and do business.. Bush lifted sanctions and got Khadafi to give up nuclear ambitions in 2004.

    He probably thought Khadafi had learned his lesson, matured, changed his spots.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...rnalists-leave-hotel-tripoli.html#post4371175


     
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    LOL...BOY you are JEALOUS!

    Wha'samatter? Mad cause Obama was sucessfull where Bush couldn't be?
     
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    Lets blame Bush for the fall of Khadafi :mrgreen:
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You wouldn't be talking about the same Iraq that broke its surrender agreement, conducted military operations against the US, and made their own claims to having WMD? Not that Iraq right? The surrender agreement was totally legal, therefore breaking it opened the door for the US to expanded use of force. If Clinton wasn't such a weakling on foreign policy, it should have been done earlier. Instead the situation festered for years. I supported Bush on Iraq then and still do now. Look beyond the media hype and everything is available to show there was legitimacy for the actions taken.

    Libya on the other hand conducted zero military operations against us or anyone else outside their sovereign territory. Obama's acts were an act of aggression upon a sovereign nation. All Libya goes to prove is that the UN is a crock of (*)(*)(*)(*) and international law is worthless.
     
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    Shameless BS. Congress approved UP FRONT.
     
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    No, I don't speak for Inquisitor and didn't speak for him.

    I just wondered why you would start a topic about Obama and his illegal war in Libya and then change the subject to Bush and Iraq.
     
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    So you did judge/criticize Bush in the same way for similar actions in Iraq. Good to know you are intellectually consistent.
     
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    [/QUOTE]

    Tell me troll, how many times do you figure you posted in here that Obama started an illegal war in Libya?

    What garbage...
     
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    If he 'leads from behind' he should get credit after all those folk in front of him.
     
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    Jealous? That should be you. Wasn't a Canadian in charge of the forces? You'd think you guys would want a touch of credit. Whether deserved or not. I'm a little peeved at the idea that there is a level of success being attributed to Obama and none for the actual service members who did the real work. Where are the kudos for them? Oh wait, the liberal media hates the military, so we won't hear a peep out of them for the hard work and effort put forth by our troops.
     
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    Hahahahahahahahaha!

    Afghanistan is tribal too!

    I'm repping you because I really needed the laugh today!
     

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