Khashoggi..The Truth Is Coming Out

Empty rhetoric.

Do you take Trump figuratively or literally?If it's that latter you're foolish

 

Very cute but not in the least useful.

What would you suggest we do? I for one have no desire to pay 5-7 dollars a gallon for gas just because the Saudis offed a reporter.

The Saudis kill more Yemenis in a few minutes and no one cares.

 

Doesn't everyone take a BONE SAW to an accidental killing

 

Has nothing to do with Trumps fan base, unless you are foolish enough to believe we caused the Saudis to get engaged and be more forthcoming

Personally I simply think Trumps warning might have had much to do with the sudden change in directs the Saudis have taken

Then again I have no agenda or follow the herd in a blind partisanship march either

 

Useless rhetoric, missed the question completely and as usual baseless opinion with never a single site ever

 

It's fairly obvious? The leftist simple complain, invent and never really do anything

 

Actually I thought it was more complicated. The "left" is up in arms because one of their own (mainstream media journalist) was murdered.

 

There are a number of actions available to us. The question is, what do we want? That's a little chestnut Washington has to crack. Actions should be punitive and limited in duration. They seem to like money so hitting them in the wallets makes sense. Basically, we aren't your pals until you propose and act (punish yourselves in a good faith gesture). As for pressure points .....
a) recall our ambassador
b) put all military sales on hold
c) recall American contractors
d) close our embassy (extreme measure)
e) suspend joint military actions
f) suspend sharing intelligence information
g) suspend visas

 

Besides Trump's enchantment with autocrats there is another facet to all this.

Is there a pattern here? “Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million,” Trump once told a crowd at an Alabama rally during the election campaign.

In 2001, Trump sold the entire 45th floor of the Trump World Tower across from the United Nations in New York for $12 million, the biggest purchase in that building to that point, according to the brokerage site Streeteasy. The buyer: The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

"For the record, I have no financial interests in Saudi Arabia (or Russia, for that matter). Any suggestion that I have is just more FAKE NEWS (of which there is plenty)!" Trump tweeted today.

He does not have financial interests in Saudi Arabia, but he has deep Saudi financial interests in the United States. A Saudi billionaire, Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, purchased his yacht from Trump and a stake in New York's Plaza Hotel in the 1990s bailing out Trump from financial distress. A public relations firm working for the kingdom spent nearly $270,000 on lodging and catering at his Washington hotel near the Oval Office through March of last year, according to filings to the Justice Department. That is in addition to the financial interests already described.

So, it is no surprise that Trump first tried this ludicrous gambit to protect the king and the crown prince. “The king firmly denied any knowledge of it. I don't want to get into (Salman’s) mind,” but he added, “it sounded to me like maybe these could have been rogue killers."

Yeah, right. That went over like a lead balloon.

Now he says, "And it depends whether or not the King [Salman] or Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman knew about it, in my opinion. Number one, what happened, but whether or not they knew about it." No doubt, the king and the crown prince will deny knowing anything about the murder beforehand. Trump can determine whether or not they are being truthful and he will respond accordingly. Reader can decide what that means in light of Trump's financial interests.

"Here we go again with you're guilty until proven innocent," Trump said in an interview today.

In July, a federal judge rejected Trump’s latest effort to stop a lawsuit that alleges Trump is violating the Constitution by continuing to do business with foreign governments.

Is there any doubt that Trump's financial interests have an impact on his judgment concerning foreign governments like Saudi Arabia?

 

The obligatory Republicans are speaking up on cue concerning the murder of the Washington Post journalist.

Senator Bob Corker has said, "If it's found that they, as everything indicates today ... murdered a journalist, that will hugely change our relationship. I mean, there's no question about it," Corker told reporters, adding, "I think they did it and I think, unfortunately, he's deceased."

Senator Lindsey Graham stated, “I’m not going back to Saudi Arabia as long as this guy is in charge,” Graham said of bin Salman. “I’ve been their biggest defender on the floor of the United States Senate. This guy is a wrecking ball. He had [Khashoggi] murdered in a consulate in Turkey and to expect me to ignore it, I feel used and abused. The MBS figure is to me toxic, he can never be a world leader on the world stage.”

Senator Marco Rubio made this contribution for the cause. "I don't care how much money it is. There isn't enough money in the world to purchase back our credibility on human rights and the way nations should conduct themselves."

This is strictly for public consumption to give gullible Americans the impression the GOP is on their side. This has all happened before, several times, especially when Trump steps on it. It happened after Trump's bigoted remarks after Charlottesville. It happened after Singapore when Trump gushed about Kim after giving away the ranch and getting nothing in return. It happened after Trump's incredulous comments at Helsinki when he declined American intelligence and accepted the word of a communist dictator because he sounded sincere. Prominent Republicans object. Nothing changes.

This showy performance by Rubio, Graham, and Corker does not mean a damn thing. The GOP leadership will do what it has always done in the past. It will put a rubber stamp on whatever Trump decides to do, no matter how self-serving his decision may be, and Trump's business connections to the Saudis will be swept under the rug.

American voters will lift up that rug and vote accordingly on Nov. 6. Maybe they will think something is wrong if American foreign policy is being bought by the Saudis. They will be watching Trump closely.

 

Surely you know "Sandy" that many U.S. presidents have been "enchanted" with autocrats?

George Bush openly talked about how it would be easier to govern a dictatorship.

Carter shared hugs and kisses with Soviet leader Brezhnev (who killed more people than Putin ever dreamed of).
Not to mention Carter was very chummy with the Shah of Iran until the Shah was literally running (actually flying) out of Iran for his life.

And I won't go into how liberal icon FDR buddied up to Stalin.

 

Ahhh...the old "they did it too" whataboutism

 

Bottom line, that is true.

What would you suggest Lesh?

You're chance to shine...….

 

Quote: The Saudis kill more Yemenis in a few minutes and no one cares

...….that's not true.

Quote: I for one have no desire to pay 5-7 dollars a gallon for gas just because the Saudis offed a reporter

...….I'm a Christian conservative, and vis-à-vis a regime well-known for its human rights abuse/violations, beheading social/political activists, and then luring/"accidently" killing a U.S. citizen, THE CONTENT OF MY WALLET IS THE LEAST OF MY CONCERNS. If you feel selling weapons to the Saudis is more important than their atrocities, then the LORD hasn't guarded you from evil.

Quote: The "left" is up in arms because one of their own (mainstream media journalist) was murdered.

…….."He who justifies the wicked and he who condemns the righteous, both of them alike are an abomination to the LORD"

 

But they sure know a lot of people who died violently. By the way McDougal supposedly died of a heart attack right after he finally agreed to testify to the Starr grand jury after a significant period of time in jail on contempt of court charges for refusing to testifying.

 

This is how America used to be.

 

Trump is correct and the Left lies again. He never used the word "heritage", that was added by Lefties to change the entire meaning. It's what Lefties do. He said if she is an Indian, not if she has one molecule of native American blood in her.

 

I've never heard of an accidental murder before, must be something a government coined together to absolve all responsibility of an act.

 

Back when my dad was still alive (pictured in my avatar) the whole idea of "no blood for oil" came up regarding the deaths of U.S. soldiers fighting in the Middle East and the idea of course that "it wasn't worth the life of a U.S. soldier to keep the price of gas down".

I figured up how each rise in gasoline prices impacted and reduced my ability to visit my dad (and other family members).

After running the numbers forward and backward and making allowances for the average age of a U.S. soldier killed in the Middle East and how much longer he was likely to live on average (about 40 years) vs. the amount of time me (and millions of other Americans) would NOT be able to see our loved ones due to a rise in gasoline prices....

I concluded that the life of a soldier was on average worth about a ONE CENT rise in gasoline prices. I could go into the numbers at length if you wish.

 

So if you accidentally kill somebody, does that mean you're innocent of a crime?

I'm unfamiliar with the justice system of Saudi Arabia, how does that work exactly?

 

And today

 

Wow, yet dems still vote clinton. Amazingly .

 

All that on hearsay! Yup the leftist rule of law! Ranks right up there with the old "Eeny, meeny, miny, moe" conviction method

 

No it's more like "You didn't give a rats ass when it was one of your"

 

Go ahead ... I dare you! Explain to a lib ... NO ... get a lib to understand, the clean hands doctrine. Betcha can't ...