Kochs Cut Off GOP Allowances Due to Rampant Trumpery!

He is part of the GOP base not all of it

Anymore than ANTIFA represents your side entirely

 

Weren't Obama's numbers via his friends?

 

All things considered, Trump is supported by at least half the country. So in practice, he has lost no ground among the public.

 

Complete and utter hogwash!

Rasmussen is HIGHLY SELECTIVE in who it polls using a subset that it calls "likely voters" as opposed to the ENTIRE POPULATION of the nation.

Furthermore those "likely voters" are a shrinking demographic that do NOT represent the public at large.

So feel free to stick with the DISINFORMATION provided by alt right sources like Rasmussen but it has no credibility outside of that diminishing group of aging boomers.

 

Of course not. Neither, apparently, is he one of the neo-nazis who enthuses "Hail Trump!" at their "Glorious Leader!" or of several other groups in the Trump coalition.

I'm unaware of those who actively oppose fascist organizations playing a significant role in electoral politics, but don't follow their activities very closely.

 

There are a handfull of citizens who are nazis

But not many

They have existed since before WWII

But heres a word of caution to liberals and fence stters who lean liberal

The rise in leftwing extreamism is very noticable

And ignoring it will not make the problem go away

You should make every effort to stamp out the wackos on your side because they generate counter extreamism from the right

 

I'm interested in neither the dentation of a politician's supporters who flail flags of historic enemies of the United States, nor in masked ideologues with no party preference.

The cogent point is that an increasing number of the GOP's high-profile conservatives - the Koch boys, George Will, Max Booth, etc. - appear to be determined to take back their Party from the perversions of Trumpery, re-asserting fiscal sensibility, mental stability, and re-establish beneficial relationships with allies whist confronting the attacks of hostile foreign forces, rather than surrendering to them.

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The neo-nazi endorsers and supporters who "Hail Trump!" as their "Glorious Leader!" may feel emboldened by the rise of Trumpery, but are still an extremist minority in the US.

Never before have they felt so empowered by a major party politician. Their worship of Trump is truly unique.

 

The extreamists feed off each other

Thuggery in the streets by liberals encourages the wackos on the right

Dont blame trump for problems you are causing

 

Once again we observe the alt right PROJECTING their own shortcomings onto others.

 

The point being that Trumps isn't turning Americans against him. That credit goes to the Democrat mainstream media which gave carte blanche to Obama, and anti blanche to Trump. Nevertheless, Trumps ratings are either equal to or better than Obama's. Consequently, were it a level playing field, Trump would bury Obama in accomplishments and ratings.

 

Are you saying any US citizen should be disenfranchised?

There's some absolutely awful looking, toothless, poor blacks who vote around here, but imo neither they nor any other citizen should be disenfranchised except those who have declared their own war on society, the convicted criminals.

 

Hyper-partisan, crybaby paranoia concerning the media and Stalinist denunciations of "the enemy of the people!" aside, most Americans consistently concur that Trump stinks.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

Following the two terms to which he was popularly elected, the Trump Network, Fox, in its final poll of President Obama, had him at 57% approval, 39% disapproval.

Could Trump ever hope to succeed to that extent?

Certainly, but even his Fox last had him at 46% approval / 51% disapproval, so he has a long, long way to go.

 

To the contrary, I have consistently upheld the right of every American to vote his perceived self-interests, even those who flail the flags of historical enemies of the United States.

 

For the sake of argument ONLY, and NOT conceding that anything you have posted is credible, let us fallaciously assume that your odious BLOTUS has somehow managed to drag himself out of the low 40's and shifted his YUUUGE orange butt all the way up to where Obama was immediately prior to the midterms in his first administration.

What happened in the 2010 midterms with Obama at those abysmal ratings?

What makes you believe that 2018 is going to have a different outcome for the party in power?

 

Even if that is true, it is very good under the circumstance of stark media bias.

 

If it wasn't for Rasmussen PUSH POLLING their alt right cherry picked voters the BLOTUS would be at 40%.

 

We hate the Koch brothers and Trump as much as ever. They are different species of scorpions. We do like to see them in the same jar trying to kill each other. Some of us can even enjoy laying bets.

 

Waiting to hear the praises of the great Koch Bros. from the usual suspects.
Next they will be ordering takeout from the Red Hen restaurant before a drum circle ceremony.
How delicious can this get.

 

No one poll, even those that are scrupulously objective, are as reliable as
a comprehensive, updated calculation accounting for each poll's quality, recency, sample size and partisan lean:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/

... and a perusal of all major polls readily exposes the outliers that partisans like to cherry-pick:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

 

Excellent links! Thank you

 

Some need to fantasize about a "stark media bias" to deal with most Americans' opinion differing from theirs.

In reality, there is a plethora of media sources that reflect a broad political spectrum, most seeking the largest share of the main stream audience because they are driven by corporate profit, not partisan concerns.

There are also "boutique" outlets that slant their coverage for targeted audiences, of course - Fox, MSNBC, Daily Stormer, HuffPost, InfoWars, Politicus, etc.

Trump largely owes his nomination to his being a savvy reality tv performer attracting far more mainstream media coverage than his less colorful establishment opponents who complained about it at the time rather than coming up with their own gaudy shtick that could compete.

The media sells interesting stories, not ideology.

 

I've never been given to understand that any particular poll was for or against Obama, though by most conservatives lights any poll not addressing Obama as "The Kenyan Muslim Illegal Occupant of the White House" is biased enough that they should be arrested for treason.

 

That's simply untrue. For the past forty or fifty years, the mainstream media, and now their cable offspring and newspapers have been championing every contrary notion to come down the pike. First they did it for ratings. Then they ate it themselves and became believers/promoters of the ideology. As for advertising, you have overlooked the fact that everyone buys, but only a minority votes.

 

And so you admit that the animal has no problem whatsoever functioning without a head.

And it's elusive, but tracked to it's lair and with several hunters closing on it. We will try to be humane but the public's safety from a dangerous beast must come first.