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Kochs Cut Off GOP Allowances Due to Rampant Trumpery!

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    No, they REPORT contrary notions, they don't say "this immoral and treasonous..." before everything you don't like, like you want them to do with anything that doesn't come out of the 1930's Hays Commission Censors Board
     
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    Some like to believe "the media" is part of a conspiracy, the "enemy of the people" because it does not relentlessly promote their ideological bias, but those folks base their persecution complex on emotion, not reason.

    They mindlessly swallow nonsense such as anthropogenic climate change being a Chinese "Hoax!", Russian interference to help Trump in the 2016 election - confirmed by the FBI, NSA, CIA, and the Republican-run Senate Intelligence Committee - being another "Hoax!", the Trump Justice Department Special Prosecutor's investigation into that attack on the US a "Witch Hunt!" directed at, of course,Trump. For him - and therefore, for them - it's all about Trump.

    These same dupes believe that millions and millions of invisible people cast bogus ballots against their messiah simply because Trump told them that, not because there is any credible evidence of it actually having happened. Trump tells them that thousands and thousands of invisible people in NJ cheered for terrorism, so it must be true for them, as when he says that hoards of invisible people celebrated his inauguration on the Washington Mall. All nonsense, of course, but whatever Trump says, they believe, not because evidence supports it, but because their Trump says it.

    Just as Trump boasted that he could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and it would not affect their veneration of him, Trump can lie to them continually, knowing they will parrot whatever Trump tells them.

    In there minds, facts that do not promote their Trump can't be true. Fictions that do must be.

    It's no surprise that they convince themselves that reality is a conspiracy.
     
    Natty Bumpo, Aug 5, 2018
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    If by head you mean the incompetent rino boobs in washington lining up to take Koch money they need the base more than the base needs them
     
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  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Jeebus, you people's sense of loyalty is amazing. Not more than 10- 15 days ago most of you were saying the Koch's were right up there with Washington as Saviors of America, now they're worse than Soros because the God-Emperor says so. .

    Hopefully, Jesus isn't REALLY coming back, for sure as gehenna if Trump doesn't like him you guys will be out carrying "Hell no, we won't go" signs even as the Rapture is wafting you heavenward.

    Oh, and nobody needs Trump's base, not even Trump, as he's about to find out in November. There really just aren't that many real dyed-in-the-Death's Head remnants still around no matter how much some of us hate everybody
     
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    Link to any message 10 to 15 days ago of Republicans saying "the Koch's were right up there with Washington as Saviors of America, now they're worse than Soros because the God-Emperor says so." You just made all that up.

    It always is just Democrats ranting - 100% contradicting their previous ranting as it is all FAKE ranting. What is accurate is Democrats - including on this forum - have cursed the Koch brothers incessantly and Republicans for being in their pocket.

    So if there was ANY integrity whatsoever in the ranking, Democrats would be congratulating Trump for not letting the Koch brothers tell him what to do. Instead, the Democratic Party declared "This is GREAT. Now WE will do whatever the Koch brothers tell us to do so WE get their dirty money."

    So do you now have a prayer closet where you worship the Kochs and their money?
     
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    Lol... sure you do? Good story though ..
     
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    Yes, absolutely sure.
     
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    I have not said much about the Koch brothers

    It was liberals who refused their donation to a hospital because allegedly the Kochs are evil or something like that

    I guess it was because they donate money to republicans

    But if they hate trump so much they would rather elect democrats then what is the republican base supposed to be loyal to the Kochs for?

    How loyal are you to george soros?
     
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  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I dunno, I've never really looked up his positions. I probably follow them more often than not but If I heard he had become an admirer of Trump it would change much of anything. I wouldn't suddenly start saying what a bastard he is like most cons are doing with the Koch's
     
    Aleksander Ulyanov, Aug 6, 2018
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    I dislike libertarians even more than conservatives. L's are just even harder shelled conservatives with a lot more hypocritical rhetoric
     
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    Pause for a moment and consider the idea of a Democrat who couldn't care less about Soros, who is amused by the Kochs' disavowal of Trump (but still dislikes much of thsoe Koch principles), who doesn't support the anti-fa or democratic socialist movements. Think of those middle of the road Democrats before launching into mind readings and stop putting all Democrats into a single category.

    I haven't seen anything about Democrats supporting Kochs in any other way than in their dislike for a common enemy. On the other hand, the Kochs were the darlings of so many Tea Party Republicans until very recently, and Koch principles were central tenets of the Republican platform. The Kochs have not changed their political leanings in any way other than to break Gingrich's cardinal rule about never speaking ill of another Republican.
     
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    Yes because conservatives are so well known for being pro choice, pro marijuana and pro immigration.
     
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  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    If Libertarians are for those things they sure as hell don't emphasize it. L's tend to support lots of positions like these in principal, but in actual fact their main efforts are in eliminating welfare even for the sick and social security/medicare for everybody
     
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    Stop it. Just ****ing stop it now. You claim to be annoyed by Libertarians but you know absolutely nothing about them. Nothing but whining, bitching and neighing from an uneducated luddite with no education. The Libertarian party has supported legalization of marijuana, abortion and changes to the justice system since it was literally formed in the 70s. Don't ****ing post anything about them since you clearly don't know ****. **** off!
     
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  15. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I know what impression the Libertarians have made on me and it's of a bunch of Objectivist hypocrites. Super hard ass conservatives mainly concerned about trundling grandma's wheelchair off the cliff so they can throw more money at their military contractor cronies, **** them and **** their stupid friends who think a bunch of philosophical claptrap can substitute for common sense and basic human decency.
     
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    You're talking about part of their economic position.
     
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    I didnt call the Kochs bastards.

    Or saints

    Liberals are the ones riding the highs and lows of love and hate for the kocks not me
     
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    Once again completely showing your ignorance. Libertarians opposed the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan and they want overseas bases shutdown and troops brought home. Its time for the US to stop policing the world.
     
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    The corporate sector, appalled by rampant Trumpery, is transferring much of its considerable political largesse to the Democratic Party. Trump's trade-warmongering contrived in large part by his reckless punitive tariffs - antithetical to conservative dogma - are a major factor.

    Conservative commentator Jonah Goldberg:

     
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