Kushner cleared of seeking Russian money to pay real estate debt

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  1. PatriotNews

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    Another #FakeNews story bites the dust. Among the scores of false allegations perpetrated by the Democrats propaganda wing, the MSM, Kushner allegedly sought Russian financing for his personal real estate deals. Now that this story has been determined to be totally bogus by none other than the 18 angry Democrat Crooked Hillary supporters on the Mueller team, should we expect an apology and retraction from the Washington Post? How many of our forum members were fooled yet again? When are you going to learn that all these bogus stories are nothing but hit pieces designed to overthrow the election, the president & our government. The media have been willing participants in a treasonous coup d'état conspiracy. You have been duped into being useful idiots & co-conspirators. How many lies are you willing to believe before you wake up and get mad that you're being suckered and used?

     
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    The democrat’s spring hasn’t been very pleasant has it?
     
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    The fake news propaganda machine of the left is coming home to roost. Dnc lies are being exposed.
     
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    You are funny... well, it's funny that you believe this article without confirming it within the Mueller Report itself...

    Would you care to get the full quote from the Mueller Report on their conclusion about the Gorkov meeting, which by no means was the only time Kushner sought Russian funds for his debt..

    Can you even identify from what page(s) in the report the Washington Examiner misreported your thread story??

    It's amazing that you people (deplorables) are willing to believe any right-wing story about the report, without actually confirming what the report itself says on the topic... which is why YOU are never believed at any time..
     
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    It’s been a hard spring for the leftist and their propaganda teams
     
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    Since I know you won't bother to publish the full story from the report, and for those of sane minds that come after me, I will summarize what the Mueller report says on this topic.

    1. Nothing... Mueller doesn't say ONE word about Kushner trying to get Russian money to secure his debt, except to report that this information was in the public domain.

    2. He has a section in Volume 1 of the report on Russian Contacts with the Trump campaign called "Jared Kushner's meeting with Sergey Gorkov" - Who is the head of a Russian sanctioned bank.

    3. Mueller doesn't indicate Kushner tried to secure financing at this meeting... in fact, Mueller says there were already reports about Kushners financing issues BEFORE this meeting.

    4. My summary of this meeting is that is was simply another Russian attempt to gain assets within the Trump administration. It seems probable that Kushner decided, in addition to Kislyak, this was not the "right channel for him to communicate with Russia"

    I'd appreciate your apology for starting this obviously incorrect thread....
     
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    Okay. Fine. I looked it up and I can confirm it.
    That's in the body of the Washington Examiner article. We are not supposed to post the entire article according to PF rules.
    Pages 161 - 163. It wasn't misreported. The quotes are verbatim.
    Okay so what's amazing to me is that I have to prove that you are wrong when you are just assuming the reporting is incorrect without checking with the Mueller report yourself, yet you expect us to do what you won't. It's just lazy not doing your own homework. Also, the Washington Examiner got the #FakeNews #RussianCollusionHoax right and your far left newspaper sources got it wrong for two years. Funny that you believed the NYT and WaPo stories without the facts. They were #FakeNews and conspiracy theories and yet you mock us when the facts are right there proving us right.
     
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    You just reinforced the the premise of the article so perhaps you should apologize for being wrong yet again? Try reading the pages I referencer in the previous post. If you can find some evidence that Kushner sought a loan from Russia before this meeting, I didn't see it in the report. Pages 161 - 163.
     
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    Well, that's good, you seem to be one of the first on here who can identify actual Mueller report pages....

    Whether the quotes are verbatim or not (they're not), they are not the complete quote and leave out the main point of that section of the report.

    From the actual report on page

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    If you can explain the fact that Kushner and Gorkov had no substantive follow-up somehow "Clears Kushner of seeking Russian money to clear real estate debt", I'm all ears... That's a stretch even Gumby wouldn't make...
     
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    I have no evidence Kushner sought a loan from Russia before this meeting, but this is right there on Page 162

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    Footnote 1159 refers to a WSJ article that I cannot get to behind firewall, so I don't know if the "borrowing from foreign lenders" includes Russia or not, but it certainly wouldn't be mind blowing... Nor do I really care.. And nor did Robert Mueller... And nor did he clear Kushner of doing this....... He just says this Gorkov meeting didn't seem to be about Kushner's debt, and I can buy that..

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald...wn-conflict-of-interest-questions-1480377903#
     
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    Which would explain why he wasn't indicted. I hope that more and more Americans soon wake to the fact that Democrat leaders and the left wing media are playing them for fools.
     
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    “the investigation did not identify evidence.”

    Your post:
    View attachment 85876
    “the investigation did not identify evidence.”
    Verbatim.

    Moreover, Kushner said, "...although Gorkov
    told Kushner a little bit about his bank and made some statements about the Russian economy, the
    two did not discuss Kushner's companies or private business dealings of any kind." So if he had discussed bank loans for his private business, why wasn't he charged with perjury? Because they had no evidence of any discussion about bank loans, which proves the WaPo article lied about loans from Russia.

    But keep up that conspiracy theory that there is secret language hidden in the Mueller report that shows Jared Kushner is guilty of seeking bank loans from Russia. Or go with that, "it's not what the report says, it's what it doesn't say" meme.

    Or maybe you can admit you were fooled by the #FakeNews.
     
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    Like I just said, "it's not what the report says, it's what it doesn't say ".

    FYI, borrowing from foreign lenders, also not illegal.
     
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    If you are referring to the WaPo article referenced in the WE article from your OP, please tell me EXACTLY what in that WaPo article is debunked by the Mueller report?? All that article says is Kushner's meeting was being investigated.... which it was... at the same time he owed a lot of money to banks.... which he did. That article doesn't indicate one bad act by Kushner, although a heavy appearance of impropriety.

    Just so there is no confusion, I post the article I believe you are referring to

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.f69ca3187177
     
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    If I see that bullshit one more time, I'm going to puke... The report can only say what it can say.... It takes a real talent for avoiding the obvious to keep pointing out what a report doesn't say...

    Who in the world ever said borrowing from foreign lenders is illegal? OMG... where do you get this stuff from??
     
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    Instead of reading the report. Just look at the list of indictments regarding collusion and obstructing of such. It's a short list which makes it much easier to find the relevant charge.
     
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    Liberals have cried wolf much to often to be taken seriously now

    Whatever the find or say after this is just background noise
     
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    Whatever dude. You people will never admit you were wrong. Instead you reframe the debate, move the goalposts, and blur the conversation. I'll stand by proven facts in the WE story and you can believe the #FakeNews WaPo story. I don't care anymore.

    It's not illegal to have a meeting, or to owe lots of money. It's not illegal to seek foreign financing. And it certainly isn't the purpose of the Special Counsel Mueller's office to prove people innocent. In this country we are assumed innocent until proven guilty. Not on the court of public opinion or in the far left liberal media. You are not only assumed guilty, you have to prove you are innocent.
     
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    The report found no collusion between trump and the russians

    And thats the end the russian hoax

    Libs owe us the two years they wasted on this
     
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    So you won't even try to back up your own statement?? You said which proves the WaPo article lied about loans from Russia.

    I gave you the WaPo article URL.... it shouldn't be that hard to point to the lie(s) in there if you are serious...

    You can Snip or just copy and paste... I'll take either...
     
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    FFS, please try and stay on topic for once....
     
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    Jarrod should consider suing the Post and NY Times for defamation
     
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    The topic is what I said it was

    Liberal trump haters still crying wolf
     
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    I do not recall anyone claiming that the Russians put money into Kushner’s deal.

    I have little doubt that he pitched them on it.

    Indeed, it has been an open secret that he has been looking for someone, anyone, who would bail him out of the disasterous deal he made to buy 666 Fifth Ave. He pitched it all over the Middle East. He pitched it to the Chinese. I have no doubt he pitched it to the Russians, too. He pitched it to EVERYBODY!

    Brookfield bailed him out last year. There are suggestions that the Quataris are involved in the deal, but I know of no actual evidence of that.
     
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    This is what I mean about moving the goalposts. First i had to show the pages from the Mueller report, now I have to prove I'm wrong and the Washington Examiner is wrong. That's your job if that's your argument. Don't ask me to prove the Washington Examiner is wrong, you do it. You have the article. It's behind the pay wall. I'm not interested in paying the #FakeNews websites to prove they are #FakeNews.
     
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