Last remaining Far-Right groups banned from Social Media.

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah. the cause being the accident of their birth and sorry life with the effect being their profound ignorant bigotry, because somebody else has just got to be responsible for it.
     
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    gorfias Well-Known Member

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    More like, they've seen globalists murder millions in death camps, gulags and killing fields and saying, I want to protect my children from finding themselves in an economy so destroyed that they must sift through garbage piles looking for something to eat.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah yes the nebulous evil globalists threatening your childrens' very existence. Give kids a good education, good healthcare, a decent diet and place to sleep, and throw in some sense of duty to country and community and I don't think you'll have anything to worry about.
     
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    gorfias Well-Known Member

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    It's a little difficult to get a good education in a gas chamber. The point being, it was posited that Leftists cannot be haters as they are only responding to the hate of others. Right or wrong, right wingers can be responding to perceived threats of mass murder from the left.
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What you need to speak about is the specific incident and who did it rather than blaming an anonymous 'the left'. This pretty much stops anything being said and is particularly concerning as fascism has had as its first target 'the left'. For instance Nazism's first target was the German Social Democrats

    https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/
     
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    That would be incorrect as those claiming "The Left" cannot have hate groups as they are only responding to hate groups from the right are making this about generalities rather than specific entities.
    I do agree with you about the difficulties in naming the Nazis either right or left. They were nationalists and enjoyed a great deal of corporate capitalism and targeted the Social Democrats. All right wing on the political compass. But Hitler wanted to exterminate Jews, in part, to show there is no Judeo Christian G-d and that all was permissible. He believed in large government-social programs. Left wing on the political compass. He wanted to neuter or kill the infirm as, he wanted big social programs.. he just did not want to pay for "those" people. That is part of the fear of letting government have too much power.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you seriously suggesting that leftists would put rightists in gas chambers? Or is that your facile use of dramatic over the top prose?

    I agree that haters of haters are still haters. I am one of them. I am strongly prejudiced against fascists, commies, racists of all colors and religious fanatics of all denominations because of their ideological choices. I also hate pedophiles with a passion, but they are the only ones that arguably did not make a choice to be one, which doesn't effect my desire to have them removed from the gene pool as quickly as humanly possible.
     
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    I sure respect bumper sticker thinking. :alcoholic:
     
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    I am not American and I have found it very strange the way people on this forum speak of 'the left' or 'the right'. It stops all discussion. Also I am not convinced that people are so 'left' or 'right'. I think you need to say what you are speaking about and you still are not.

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    No I don't find that hard. The nazis hatred of political groups saw the social democrats hated the most. They did not follow social democratic or Marxist views as my link makes clear. They also worked hand in hand with corporations. I am beginning to question to what degree we in the West may already be fascist. It does not need to be vicious though I suspect it would become so in order to keep itself in power. I am not sure what you in the US call the left but I would say Social democracy is on the left and I suspect it or something similar I note American's are beginning to talk about 'progressive capitalism' might also be. In order to keep a democracy working, that is the Government listening to the needs of the people with also the various democratic rights in place, it is essential that the Government does not give Capital a free hand and become so powerful that Governments are listening to them not the people. It has so long been recognised that Monopolies are not capitalism, rather are destructive of both Capitalism and Democracy. This was strongly understood after WW2 which is why during my childhood if someone mentioned the word 'Monopoly' the reaction was like they had screamed 'fire'. In the 80's Thatcher and Regan buying what their economists thought because they liked it said to hell with that. Neither of them wanted democracy so it did not matter. So they sold our democracies and our Governments serve the richest in society, not us. This is not too much of a problem as long as people have a decent standard of living. Neo Liberalism can no longer work to produce this in the US which I would suggest is the time that fascism pulls its trump card calling up 'the other'. It wasn't just Jews last time but it was pretty much the same people who are looking in danger this time, except that Jews in public are replaced by Muslims, but you heard them 'Jews will not replace us', so because in the US it is the Christian Right who are becoming powerful and they have a lot in common with white nationalists, I suspect Jews will not be that safe in the US once things get moving. Having said that, in the main I see them being deported to Israel rather than harmed. Something which would cheer Netanyhu no end as Israel has to take more land for them to live on. So nowadays Muslims are the main target instead of Jews but I think in the States you also have Mexicans and Blacks and any immigrants as the other as well, and of course the movement is going to harm gays and moves are in place to increase misogyny - oh and possibly top of the list - the left. That is more nazism. It is not left wing.
     
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    Who can know? Who was the first person following Pol Pot to say, "you want us to kill 1 out of 3 of our own people? That's a great idea!" We see the ideas on the left making people think it is OK to engage in wide spread censorship, shoot up Repubicans at baseball fields, talk down our Constitutional protections of electoral college, free speech and due process. Sure, we're genuinely terrified about just how far down the Authoritarian, mass murderer path the left is ready to go. For now, the right? Er, they want our borders defended?
    Theoretically, the Nazis aka National Socialist German Workers' Party, hated the Social Democrats because they were competition. Only one Authoritarian plan would survive so they had to snuff out the competition. https://lawofmarkets.com/2019/04/28/nazis-were-socialists/
     
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    It is hardly unprecedented for leftists to kill and imprison their political opponents. That is because they think they are so moral.
     
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    Your use of anecdotal generalization to justify your partisan paranoia is truly impressive.


    Bumperstickers are simple, so at least you got that going for you.
     
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    Which is one helluva long way from throwing children into gas chambers. But I do understand that for purposes of specious smearing of the left, its almost exactly the same thing.
     
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    The Germans used gas chambers because they were in a hurry, losing a war. The Russians had more time to work the politically incorrect to death and killed more than three times as many as the Germans.
     
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    don't forget the chinese. those smart little mofo's always sneak under the radar.
     
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    Well, while you offer no counter arguments, while I still have my rights and the Left have not yet put me in a death camp, I'll keep vocal and try to warn people where Leftism leads. The grave yard.
     
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    I have not forgotten.

    But you are pretty flippant about tens of millions of death by starvation.
     
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    How politically incorrect of me.
     
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    Oh, no, it is quite politically correct to minimize the toll of human suffering caused by the Left.
     
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    touche.
     
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    Nonsense as long as there are such tools as Tor along with the information on how to use such tools on the net.
     
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    I actually don't care. I have said on another thread here that every time a private corporation does something like this, they are creating a business opportunity for someone else. Minds.com allows anonymous posting and is still devoted to free speech and may benefit significantly from Facebook's actions, for example. (They need to fix their website because it's a memory hog, otherwise I would spend more time there.) More concerning is the current attempt by left-wing advocates to interfere with private legal financial transactions, namely, pressuring Mastercard not to do business with the right.

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019...-mastercard-stockholders-to-censor-far-right/

    This to me is beyond the pale. No third party has the right to interfere with private transactions that are legal, and if Mastercard bows to this pressure, any group affected by the decision should sue the left-wing group. That would constitute tortious interference with a business relationship.

    https://smallbusiness.chron.com/definition-wrongful-interference-business-relationship-34018.html
     
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    Seems to me there's no case since, its the private business determining who they choose to be their customers. Kinda like the baker who doesn't want gays as customers.
     
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    I think quite a few people here would pitch in to send you.
     
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    To the UK, an active warzone, or 8chan?
     
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