Those new laws in New York and Connecticut seem designed to tacitly give the green light to late term abortions any time in the pregnancy. All an abortion worker has to say is "it was for health reasons", no doctor, no verification that there actually were legitimate health issues. "Health reasons" is code word for "a normal pregnancy could possibly hurt my health so I have the right to abort"
You enjoy attacking me and pretending my story changes. Folks for the very first time ever, the story in this thread is being told by me. In my past I have mentioned a former wife having one and my grief over other females having them but I was loathe to tell all of the story knowing some like this person would rush to claim i lied. i have never claimed she lied over her own stories. She never met me. She has gall to claim I lied. But some of us must admit we have shared experiences and try to get this issue in court where others will tell their stories. Rather than her attack me, she should tell you her story to try to get you to understand her extreme interest in this particular subject. See if we attack her back. I would never attack her as she attacks me.
Now all ya have to do is prove that....but I won't hold my breath while you find an episode of Star Trek to prove your point
First, I want to thank you for such a powerful, personal story of your traumatic experiences with abortion. I am very sorry for you & your wives who endured those traumas with you. Your experience is a powerful illustration of the truth that no woman goes thru an abortion without a great deal of personal anguish. Those who think otherwise are not very well informed. Conservatives & libertarians are always stressing the importance of individual freedoms. They claim to want each individual to have complete control over their own lives & destinies, and complain about government interference of any kind. Yet, it is they who insist on using government as their tool of choice to prevent women from having that freedom in making some of the most important decisions of their entire lives. I am Pro-Choice because I value the very same thing conservatives & libertarians claim they value. I value individual freedom to make the crucial choices all of us have to make at various times, to take our lives in the direction we want it to go. But on this issue, it is the Pro-Life side that is acting counter to their normal stance in favor of those individual freedoms. It's paradoxical.
My two wives, following Democratic party ideology, could simply have wiped out both of our two daughters lives as the woman chooses. Men do not have any right to choose. I do not believe in one person rules.
Why do you stick to an isolated case that is not remotely in the USA? Again, who stopped the abortion? Name the party. Name the country.
Too bad ! The one who is pregnant rules what is done with her body....NO one else should have control of that, that would be slavery... If the man told the woman to have an abortion , have a "say" in the situation , would you be fine with that???
Still waiting for proof...…. BTW, one can't have a "late term abortion" at ANY time during the pregnancy, it would have to be "late term"... And yes, a doctor is needed to diagnose the situation......saying otherwise doesn't make it true.
You denied him his rights. You bleat on about her health. I have seen "her health" decline after she got the abortion.
So, a male or female doctor should assume control of her body in the event her child presents a problem to her? How often will a stinking child present a danger to his own mom?
Isolated? Unfortunately not https://www.rainn.org/statistics/children-and-teens 12 years old and pregnant https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...rtbeat-restrictions-choice-column/3679623002/ It doesn’t just happen in Argentina it happens everywhere and thanks to old men who blame girls for getting pregnant they are often unwilling to report thier abuse
FoxHastings said: ↑ Too bad ! The one who is pregnant rules what is done with her body....NO one else should have control of that, that would be slavery... If the man told the woman to have an abortion , have a "say" in the situation , would you be fine with that??? I am used to your totally irrelevant posts but this is a corker....could you please show what ,if any, relevance your post has to the one of mine you quoted??? You are as consistent as ALL Anti-Choicers, YOU would NOT answer the following question either : If the man told the woman to have an abortion , have a "say" in the situation , would you be fine with that??? ALWAYS unanswered....
WTF are you talking about .??!!!..I didn't say that … A "stinking" child ??? WOW! Such respect for that "precious life" !!!! NOT!
That is the old change the story tune. You were not referring at all to crimes of America nor other countries other than one in South America. You were asked what did that country do to the grandfather who raped his granddaughter, You got hissy and attacked a board forum member and kept pretending it was his fault. You were asked about the authorities of that nation who have the job of prosecuting crimes. Did the country also commit a crime against the young granddaughter? I do not find a response from you. Perhaps this child did not report her grandfather but by golly there is definitely a report and I think you reported it to this American forum as it this is our problem.
No you never asked what the outcome was for the grandfather. If you like you can go back and look at what you posted
I will handle comments about my own claims. Folks, I was told the doctor, a male or female now intruded on the pregnant woman to deal with her. We are constantly lectured only the woman has choice. If this is the case, a doctor intrudes. MORE than we by posting text can intrude. We replying to wisecracks do not know the pregnant woman. But we are treated as if we drive to the abortion clinic to play a direct role when she gets an abortion. I feel all the time the way abortion lovers talk back to us all that we get the blame for the pregnant females plight. If she got raped, we are accused. We are accused of fomenting rape. The law forces her to have the child but does the law or it's country get blamed? HELL NO. Posters get the full blame. I said stinking child due to it being the victim of forcibly removing it from the child's mother. The mother wants no part of this child. The child is not being defended. Only the mother gets defended. So what is wrong with joining the abortionist and calling the unborn a stinking child? Suddenly the pro abortion crowd gets all pissy. Well I get pissy too when they promote abortion and laud the mom who tells that doctor, get this child of mine out of me. "I know i have a child otherwise no doctor would remove my child." ~ the mother getting the abortion being spoken of as if she commented.
That is not the sole issue. But you tore into a forum poster as if you carried a knife to get rid of said poster. And again you dodged the issue by once again referring back to said poster.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Too bad ! The one who is pregnant rules what is done with her body....NO one else should have control of that, that would be slavery... If the man told the woman to have an abortion , have a "say" in the situation , would you be fine with that??? I am used to your totally irrelevant posts but this is a corker....could you please show what ,if any, relevance your post has to the one of mine you quoted??? You are as consistent as ALL Anti-Choicers, YOU would NOT answer the following question either : If the man told the woman to have an abortion , have a "say" in the situation , would you be fine with that??? ALWAYS unanswered.... The post is above and Anti-choicers will say anything to NOT answer this question: """If the man told the woman to have an abortion , have a "say" in the situation , would you be fine with that???""" I post my comments with every reply... I have never attacked anyone for not replying.....Anti-Choicer frustration at it's finest
Now THIS contains the entire argument that FOx hastings carefully exclused. First me. ↑ . Now shows up Mr Wize guy. (spelling on purpose) He clearly told the man, get lost she has the sole right to decide. Hell if the man, the actual father has a say, she is now a slave. A ******ned slave??????? For discussing it with his wife? Geezus christ. Then MR wise cracker wants to change the topic to other men telling other women. I did not claim to tell other women. Why the hell would I get involved with other men and women?
You have a subject title that is NOT true. PolitiFact | This Facebook post about New York’s abortion law is still wrong Fact check: New York law does not allow abortion 'up until birth' (usatoday.com) You provide NO PROOF to it's statement, then you go on about 1 case regarding an unwanted child. Newsflash: YOU or this woman DO NOT DECIDE EVERY INDIVIDUAL CASE REGARDING A DECISION TO HAVE AN ABORTION. That is a matter of fact, history and LAW. Like it or not this is a democracy, NOT a theocracy.
I disagree. It is basically and essentially true, de facto, if not quite officially true. Yes, the law itself doesn't purport to explicitly legalize it, yet at the same time it seems obvious that that is what the law seems designed to do, and will do. All you have to do is read the sections of the law and understand what they will do. Something that, realistically, 95% of the people here are not going to expend the mental effort to do themselves. But if you want, I am happy to go over the law section by section and explain it to you.
Not everything is so simple that you can immediately breeze over it with casual reading. When you ask if the law will "legalize" it, you have to more specifically define what it is exactly you mean by "legalize". Maybe I can explain it this way to you. The law doesn't come out and directly say it is legalized, but the law will make it allowed.
