Latest casualty in War on Cops

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  1. waltky

    waltky Well-Known Member

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    40 years on, parole denied cop killer...
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    Parole Denied for Massachusetts Cop-Killer
    May 9, 2018 - Forty years after he shot and killed Shrewsbury Police Officer James Lonchiadis, Edgar Bowser III has been denied his latest bid for freedom.
     
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    Two Ohio Police Officers Killed by Shots to Head, Torso...
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    Autopsies: Ohio Police Officers Killed by Shots to Head, Torso
    May 14, 2018 - Westerville Officer Eric Joering was killed Feb. 10 when he was shot three times, once in the forehead, while fellow Officer Anthony Morelli died after being shot in the chest as they responded to a possible domestic violence call.
     
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    The Donald speaks out against cop killin's...
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    Trump: ‘We Must End the Attacks on Our Police’
    May 15, 2018 - In a speech to the National Peace Officers’ Memorial Service, President Donald Trump called for an end to attacks on police, adding that ambush attacks are “one of the most alarming crimes” against police.
     
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    It's like open season on cops...
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    Mass. police officer shot and killed; 3 cops hurt in Mo.

    July 15, 2018 -- A police officer and a bystander were shot and killed in Massachusetts as authorities pursued a vandalism and erratic driving suspect Sunday
     
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    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's a dangerous profession, Waltky.

    I teach recruits. Sometimes I'll ask a class if they think their first priority should be to go home safe. A lot of hands raise. And then I tell them this ...

    Your first priority is to do your duty. If going home safe is your first priority, you're in the wrong business.

    That's just the way it is.

    Respect to our Fallen ... :salute: :flagus:

    Seth
     
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    waltky Well-Known Member

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    Hawaii Officer Fatally Shot...
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    Hawaii Officer Fatally Shot; Suspect Sought
    July 18, 2018 -
    A manhunt is underway for a suspect in the slaying of Hawaii Police Officer Bronson K. Kaliloa
     
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    Hawaii Cop-Killer Suspect Dead; Officer Wounded in Shootout...


    Suspect Hawaii Cop-Killer Dead; Officer Wounded in Shootout

    July 23, 2018 - An intensive four-day manhunt for the suspect who gunned down a Hawaii island police officer ended Friday in a shootout at South Point that left the suspect dead and two others, including a second police officer, wounded.
     
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    Milwaukee Police Officer Killed in Shooting Identified

    JULY 26, 2018 - Milwaukee Police Officer Michael Michalski was fatally shot by a wanted suspect Wednesday.
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    Arizona Trooper Shot and Killed by Suspect
    JULY 26, 2018 - Arizona Trooper Tyler Edenhofer was shot and killed by a suspect with a trooper's gun and another trooper was wounded Wednesday night.
     
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    Whenever I've sat in a classroom after about age 16 I've believed some of what the instructor taught, and disbelieved some of what the instructor taught, the ratio of belief to disbelief generally depending on where the classroom was.

    I've always gotten through and got a diploma or certification of some kind, but I've always decided for myself.
     
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    Fort Myers police officer succumbs to wounds a week after shot on duty...
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    Fort Myers police officer dies a week after shot on duty

    July 29,`18 -- A Florida police officer died Saturday, a week after he was shot while attempting to apprehend a suspect, the Fort Myers Police Department said Sunday.
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    Mass. police officer shot and killed; 3 cops hurt in Mo.
    July 15,`18 -- A police officer and a bystander were shot and killed in Massachusetts as authorities pursued a vandalism and erratic driving suspect Sunday.
     
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    Do you disagree with me?

    I suspect some of those students disagree with me. I'd like to ask them the same question in about 5 years. By that time, they're going to have realized that this is a dangerous profession, and there is no way to eliminate all risk. And when you get that call, you have to take it. You go. This is putting duty first, going home safe second.
     
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    I've never disagreed with an instructor or professor, or expressed any kind of feelings in the classroom.

    I agree, if you take the job you got to go, when it involves climbing an icy 140' ladder up a water tower, or going into combat.
     
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    Suspect Cop-Killer Taken to Jail in Trooper's Handcuffs...
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    Suspect Cop-Killer Taken to Jail in Trooper's Handcuffs

    AUG. 2, 2018 - The suspected killer of an Arizona Department of Public Safety Trooper Tyler Edenhofer was released from the hospital and taken to jail after being placed in the fallen officer's handcuffs.
     
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    There was a time when very few cop killers were taken alive.

    A person who had been a paramedic in Dallas who has been one of those retrieving a dead guy from a police shoot-out about 40 years ago explained how it used to be there. He told me he asked the Country coroner how he could possibly list the guy in the police shoot-out had died of "suicide by gun" on the official death certificate, when the guy was dead from being shot 5 times in the chest thru the windshield of the car he was trying to get away in.

    He said the coroner replied matter-of-fact with a perfectly straight face: "If someone shoots at the Dallas Police Department that person has committed suicide." That was the official policy of the coroner's office. Any death by police when the person had shot at the police was recorded as "suicide" on the death certificate.

    He said on another occasion he answered a paramedic call for someone shot during a police shoot out who was still alive. He said the police pulled him away with "what the hell are you doing?! He was shooting at us." To some police, its like someone was shooting at your family members.

    Circumstances considered, time to time I'd be ok with that.

    I guess times have changed - some places anyway. The days before video cameras and cell phones is all but vanished.
     
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    Being a police officer is safer than a hundred different professions, though there is great danger.

    I've seen those horrible training videos where they have exercises where they prove that if you didn't shoot someone in a position to possibly pull a gun, the officer would have died. Training "SHOOT FAST TO ANY DANGER." I hate that. ANYONE ANYWHERE could suddenly pull a gun and kill a cop - justifying literally gunning down anyone. I hate those videos and that training. I believe that training is behind some of the innocent and unarmed people shot and killed by police. "I was afraid" is not enough justification to kill someone, there has to be more than that.
     
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    In all the years I was on the street I trained and prepared for the worst. But there was something I always knew ... If someone just wanted to kill a cop, it would be pretty easy. If you call, they'll come, and they take thousands of routine calls from law-abiding citizens all the time. You could get taken down by a sudden close-in ambush or with a deer rifle from 200 yards out. You don't necessarily completely forget about these possibilities, but you can't do business quaking in fear and paranoid of everyone either. So, you just accept it and do your job.

    And part of that job is to be lawful, ethical, and in control of yourself. I can't even count the number of times I felt fear. And when that happens, you just do your job anyway, and you don't just blast everyone near you because you were afraid.

    Seth
     
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    Two police officers shot in Camden, New Jersey...

    Two police officers shot in Camden, New Jersey

    August 7, 2018 — Two police officers were struck by gunfire in Camden Tuesday night.
     
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    NYPD Union Wants to Keep Cop Killers Behind Bars for Life...
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    NYPD Union Wants to Keep Cop Killers Behind Bars for Life

    AUG. 9, 2018 - Flanked by dozens who lost loved ones in the line of duty, NYPD Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association President Pat Lynch called on the state to revise parole guidelines so those convicted of killing officers are no longer eligible to leave prison.
     
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    Search Continues for Suspects in Ambush Shootings of New Jersey Police Detectives...
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    Search Continues for Suspects in Ambush Shootings of New Jersey Police Detectives

    AUGUST 8, 2018 - The search continued Wednesday for possibly two suspects who ambushed and wounded two police detectives in an unprovoked attack at a traffic light in Camden Tuesday night.
     
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    Two cops killed in Canadian shooting...
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    Fredericton shooting: Four dead including two police in Canada
    10 Aug.`18 - Canadian police say a suspect is in custody after at least four people - two of them police officers - were killed in a shooting in the eastern city of Fredericton, New Brunswick.
     

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